i do beleive that somewhere during the 1930s Lee (dad) was in a ophan home. becuase he wasn't with his mother or father and/or the cutlers. there are only three races....we would be white. I wish I could remember how we connected Ruth A Gilligan to Dad other then Bert Saying so.
This might help too. Dad said he always thought that the two families knew each other.
Bert died in 1977 in Indiana, he was married like 7 times. God only knows how many he just lived with.

Question is Mabel Miller a jewish name?

i would go to court but i don't live in Mich. in Nevada.

thanks for the help everyone, this is driving me crazy.