Great to hear from you. The only child i had listed for Abner, was Sammy, born 1875. For now we'll have to share data on this board, as i have some e-mail problems I'm trying to get worked out. I show Hiram, b. abt. 1819,as a brother to Elizabeth, born 1825. they are the only two children i show for George FREEMAN and unknown wife. What is your take that Hiram's father, george, MIGHT be the SAME George FREEMAN that so much has been written about in Clay Co.? Hiram and his father are mentioned in the SPENCER book. Have you seen that? Looking foward to you input. I only have 33 people as George's descendants, including spouses.