hi beth tanks for your reply - at the momnet im trying to find arthurs birth record - but i cant

he was born in 1882 which is on the gravestone and on teh census he was born in America

he was baptised in England in 1886 at the same time as his younger sister Elizabeth
i have his death record but would love to find out which city in america he was born ect - i have triend averything but im going to get to the library after christmas to print off the passenger lists as some of them are down as just mr wolstencroft - i would assume he would have had to be registered for birth to enable him to travel to England

Alive and george reamind in England yes and those birth dates are right