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Re: savoy park

Jared "Jed" Handspicker (View posts)
Posted: 5 Jun 2002 12:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Handspiker, Hanselpacker, Amirault, Amero, Thibideau, Thibodeau
Without trying to sound rude, the actual name, Savoy, Savary, Savery, is likely just the rendition of a time or a splinter in the family tree. The same holds true for other Digby names such as Thibideau or Thibodeau? Amirault or Amero? Spelling changes are often the frustrating to researchers, UNTIL they have been accepted, identified and catalogued. It's not WRONG to list one spelling over another, that's human. It IS wrong to say one or the other spelling is the "right" one. There may be a preferred one, and, in some cases, there MIGHT be a "right" one. However, if one is not open to the alternatives, one can surely miss great numbers of kinfolk.

As my own example can truly explain. MY surname is Handspicker. My grandfather was born a Handspiker (no "c") and between he and his father, the "c" somehow crept into our variant spelling. That does help to "classify" our own family, as the "c" was only carried on by my father and uncle, so only their children have the "c". There have been some scattered occurences of the "c" spelling in the US, but, often a misspelling, as opposed to the "right" one.

Taking it back further, the Handspiker name in Digby County is quite well documented, yet there are earlier variations there, as well as elsewhere. Peter Hanselpiker, Conrad Handlespiker and others, were all related, and, in TIME, the name morphed to Handspiker. Now, Conrad's brother Philip chose to settle in New Brunswick and kept a more original version of the family name, Hanselpacker. All Hanselpackers of New Brunswick are related to the Handspikers of Nova Scotia. Through the years, I've found 19 proven variants of the Handspiker/Hanselpacker surname. Each having its own story and its own value.

My favorite story is the one about Alphaeus (Alfred) Philip Handspiker... born in Digby (son of Ross Curry Carr Handspicker), he later moved to New Brunswick and, over time, changed his spelling to Hanselpacker. When he married in 1889, he was a Handspiker, but, was buried in 1925 as a Hanselpacker. Of his four children, Frank returned to Nova Scotia and to the Handspiker surname. Carrie and Emma married out of the surname and William remained in New Brunswick and kept the Hanselpacker name.

This doesn't mean these four siblings aren't closely related.
And the Hanselpacker name is no more incorrect than the Handspiker name, or vice versa.

Hope this settles some concerns about spelling variants, and opens minds to wider possibilities.

Jed

Re: savoy park

Paula (View posts)
Posted: 5 Jun 2002 2:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
thank you and I wasn't trying to sound rude myself.I very much understand the different spellings of names. I felt I was being told I had the name " wrong" I was trying to state that is how I know it to be spelled....

Re: SAVARY Park

Jared "Jed" Handspicker (View posts)
Posted: 5 Jun 2002 5:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Savery, Savary, Savoy?
For the sake of argument, here's Plympton's website, which does spell the name "Savary".

http://www.valleyweb.com/plympton/

As for the variants of the surname, I hope I did not offend anyone. I just wanted to preclude any mini-battles, which I've happened across on other genealogy message boards in the past. As to how the "Savoy Park" thread began, perhaps the following might explain:

Savoy Parks exist in -
Melbourne, Australia - Savoy Park Plaza Hotel
Ayr, Scotland - Savoy Park Hotel and Racecourse
Falls Church, Virginia, USA - Savoy Park Condominiums

I found no Savoy Parks in Canada following an extensive internet search.

Peace,

Jared "Jed" Handspicker

Re: SAVARY Park

Paula (View posts)
Posted: 5 Jun 2002 8:04PM GMT
Classification: Query


Your intentions clearly understood on this end. Thanks !

Re: SAVARY Park

JohnThurber (View posts)
Posted: 5 Jun 2002 8:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Certainly my intentions were not to be rude or argumentative, but trying to help others, as I often try to do, whenever I can. If they were perceived as such, then I apologize to anyone I have offended.
Once again, the name Savary, is the prominent spelling of that surname in Digby County. All are given that spelling in the County census - 1871,1881,1891. The Digby County History also lists them as such. That was all I wanted to convey.
Incidentally, I do see a SAVOY, in the 1881 census, at Church Point : Alexander, age 35, Church of England, Origin: Scottish, born: New Brunswick. His wife and children also listed.
Best Regards,
John

Re: savoy park

Posted: 6 Apr 2015 3:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Not sure if this thread is still active or not but....the Savary Park was named after the Savary family in general when it was expropriated in 1961. There is a book 'Savery and Severy Genealogy' [Savory and Savary] written in 1893 by Alfred William Savary who happens to be my great, great, great uncle. He was the son of Sabine, who was a son of Nathan.There is a cemetery in the park with a headstone marked with Nathan Savary and Deidamia Sabin's names on it. The original house (across the street) was built in 1820 by Sabine Savary and is still owned by descendants. My mother and her siblings were raised in that house.
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