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Mariano Ybanez

Re: Mariano Ybanez

Posted: 10 Mar 2012 5:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
Is it possible that the one who ran away to samar ended up in masbate? Gervacio, I asked a relative of ours juvy anne Sandiego Ruiz if we have any relatives in bogo and she said daghan daw. I will ask her if the Ybanez in bogo are our relatives.

Re: Mariano Ybanez

Posted: 10 Mar 2012 6:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
As far as I recall, there was no mentioned of Samar, Lolo Epifanio Ybanez came to Masbate from Bogo, Cebu because of his resentment with his parents favoritism and apparent jealousy with some of his siblings. If you are of big family I think more than a dozen brothers and sisters there would be some sort of rivalry. He swore he would never go back to Bogo and strictly made it clear to his sons that include my grandfather Eduardo that not any of his descendants will ever seek out the family in Bogo. He died in Masbate. When his parents died, he was to have his share of inheritance because we were told that the family was one of the old rich in Cebu but because of his wish to the day he died no one from the Masbate side ever made a claim even if the story told that a family member came from Bogo to ask any of the children and grandchildren then still a, live to lay claim to Lolo Epifanio inheritance. My Aunt, Petrona, the eldest of the grandchildren who died at age 91 in 2001 told us that if we want to seek out our roots, go to Bogo and tell them who we are. We never had a chance to know in person any of the family members in Bogo Cebu. Its sad to think that we might never know in our lifetime. I'm 55 years old and a direct descendant - Lolo Epifanio who is the father of Lolo Eduardo, who is the father of Diego, who is my father.

Re: Mariano Ybanez

Posted: 10 Mar 2012 4:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
we have relatives in bogo descended from a brother of my great grams and your great great grams but only he went to bogo..but there were already Ybanez in bogo before he went so the only relatives we are there are just the ones descended from him...there are also Ybanez in daan bantayan and bantayan Island..but you have to rem greg Ybanez in our family only started in the 1880s because we had a different surname before that so we are not related to many Ybanez.what you do is you ask them questions about their relatives and names as far back as they can and if any of that fills in with our family history then there might be possibilities of relation...

Re: Mariano Ybanez

Posted: 10 Mar 2012 4:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
hello. so Epifanio is your 2x great grand father? and youre 50 so that would place your lolo Epifanio's birth around 1880? there is no Epifanio in the family tree my grandma has that i have a copy of but there is an Ybanez family there in bogo that has been there before our line there is also a wealthy Ybanez line from bantayan Island

Re: Mariano Ybanez

Posted: 10 Mar 2012 6:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry for the 2x its Great grandfather - Epifanio Ibanez father of Eduardo Ibanez who is the father of Diego Ibanez who is my father. He was born 1857 as Ybanez but changed it to Ibanez and died in 1927 at the age of 70 in San Fernando, Masbate. Im his direct descendant Im 55 years old from the Masbate clan. He did not want anymore connection from his roots in Bogo we were never told who his parents were. All we know is we have both spanish and chinese blood from his parents. Who is spanish and who is chinese we dont know? He was described to have blue eyes and he's got blond eyelashes (in Masbate words, "puting pirok") and tall. My Lolo and his brothers were all of the same heights more than 6 ft. tall. I never saw Lolo Eduardo alive but I saw his brother Lolo Miyong when I was 7 years old and I thought he was a giant then. In my generation the only information we have stopped from Epifanio Ibanez. Yes you are right, I havent seen his name in the names mentioned from Bogo clan but that is the name he registered in Masbate and what we have. My aunt who died at 91 attested that family member from Bogo traced them in Masbate and went to Masbate to reconnect and she was asked to go to Bogo but she declined in deference to the wish of Lolo Epifanio that not one among his descendants will go to Bogo. She was the eldest sister of my father and I consider the most knowledgeable of the history of Ybanez or Ibanez in Masbate. She was 9 when Lolo Epifanio died. She was the one who told me that if I happen to visit Cebu one day go to Bogo If I want to see where our Ibanez clan originated.

Re: Mariano Ybanez

Posted: 10 Mar 2012 7:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, Daang Bantayan or any place in Cebu was ever mentioned to us as far as where our Ybanez root is concerned, only Bogo, Cebu. In fact I never knew there was a place of that name in Cebu until it was mentioned to me by my Aunt the eldest sister of my father who was born in 1918 and died at age 91. And the clue that I'm still puzzled is that we have combined lineage Spanish and Chinese from Lolo Epifanio side. I just dont know who is spanish and who is chinese with regards to the parents of my great grandfather Lolo Epifanio who registered his birth at 1857 and died in December of 1927. He was 70 years old. No one from the oldies have given us the names of the parents of our great grandfather because as I know, he did not want anyone from his descendents to ever reconnect with relatives in Bogo. What was his reasons? We dont know. Not one from the oldies tried to touch base but my generation and the new ones are all wondering who are our relatives in Bogo. Its quite hard to trace back but in this site as I look at the posts I think Im starting to piece the puzzle except that I cannot find his name Epifanio from those that already mentioned. There must be a missing link.

Re: Mariano Ybanez

Posted: 10 Mar 2012 7:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Im curious, if there was already an Ybanez in Bogo before your line of Ybanez in 1880 and Lolo Epifanio birth is registered in 1857 who was the Ybanez line ahead of you in Bogo? Do you have idea? They must be the one belonging to our line. Another question is if your line of Ybanez came to Bogo in 1880 from where they came from? Was it possible they are all related by blood if we further trace back the roots. All I know was the family of my great grandfather whom he left and never went back was one of the old rich family in Cebu, that was the clue that I got and he had both spanish and chinese blood. My Lolo was a merchant himself of Copra and they got plantations way back in Masbate which he apparently learned from great grandpa. They also got batel, a big boat at that time. One of his son Francisco Ibanez one of the brothers of my Lolo was once the Mayor of a Town in Masbate, he was known as Lolo Kiko. So Lolo Epifanio must have had the means and education from where he came from which is Bogo.

Re: Mariano Ybanez

Posted: 10 Mar 2012 8:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
hello,
Yes it can be hard to trace family links sometimes esp when philippines has limited records from that era bec they were lost in the war. that is good you know the year Epifanio was born 1857. I found out about the Ybanez in bantayan Island bec i saw a very old house there made of stone and when i asked the people in the area simply said it belonged to the Ybanez Family. The Ybanez family that was in Bogo before my great grams brother moved there was another Family that was already there. my great grandmother and her brothers and sisters are from northen cebu a town called tabogon not so far from bogo. My family only started using Ybanez as a surname around 1870s...before that we had a different last name. but i heard that my 3x great grandmother was an Ybanez as well but i dont know where she was from.

Re: Mariano Ybanez

Posted: 10 Mar 2012 9:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
I think both of Severo's parents are from Spain since Severo himself was a pure Spaniard.

Re: Mariano Ybanez

Posted: 11 Mar 2012 6:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, thanks for the info

The Ybanez who moved from Tabogon was not really an Ybanez according to your story but had only adopted that surname. If they only moved to Bogo in 1880 and found out there was already an Ybanez there in Bogo during that time, certainly they are possibly not relatives or it’s also possible they are since you said you truly have an Ybanez further back in time. It’s difficult to stitch together the accounts of that long gone era. However is there anybody who knows the original Ybanez from Bogo since my great grand pa Lolo Epifanio Ybanez (later Ibanez) was possibly born there in 1857 but then the story was told that he run away from home, left the Ybanez clan, his parents and siblings in Bogo, swearing to his grave never to return and didn’t claim his inheritance though it was told he was included in the will of his parents. I learned in one of the posts that indeed, there was a story of Ybanez going separate ways to Mindanao, Masbate, Visayas, and Luzon. (Masbate is mentioned so maybe I can start with that)Direct relatives of my great grandpa should be those in Bogo between 1800 or earlier to 1857 the time my Lolo was born and up to present time. Certainly they should know the story because they looked for him during that time and they found him in San Fernando, Masbate. Unfortunately he died in December of 1927 at age of 70. While his birth and death is recorded, he apparently by purpose did not give a record of our great great grandparents. I hope to one day travel to Bogo and find who the relatives are because I’m a direct descendant of 3 generations and it would be great to complete one’s family tree. It makes a person know who he is as well as the future generations. You can email me at emj_san88@yahoo.com It would be a dream to have reunion of sorts of the entire Ybanez clan. I wish I would still see that day to also make the wish of my Aunt who died in 2009 at age 91.
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