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Matheo Antonio Gil Y'Barbo

Re: Matheo Antonio Gil Y'Barbo

Posted: 26 Sep 2014 9:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Finally! Someone with like genealogical interests! OK. Here's my take on Juan's father. I think it actually is Joaquin. So many documents and census records have misspellings that you really have to be a detective to figure it out. Juan was my husband's great great grandfather. Here is his lineage: Matheo Antonio Ybarbo, Antontio Gil Ybarbo, Mariano Ybarbo, Juan Jose Ybarbo, Juan Jose Pablo (aka John) Ybarbo, Maria Regina (aka Rowena and Rehena) Ybarbo, Manuel Cordova (aka Cordaway), Adelina Cordova, Elisa Garcia, then my husband Leo Hernandez. I was very confused about Maria Regina until I figured out that the Maria Regina on other records died at 15. I clarified the lineage using a copy of Antonio Gil Ybarbo's last will and testament, U.S. Census records, marriage records and military records. Maria Regina was married to Juan or John Cordova aka J.C. Cordaway. Her parents were Juan Ybarbo and Maria Alphonsa Flores.
There are various spellings for all these people, but if you start comparing ages and offspring, it becomes clear that the spellings are phonetic or anglicized. I hope this helps. Would you be willing to collaborate? By the way my name is Pat Hernandez.

Re: Matheo Antonio Gil Y'Barbo

Posted: 29 Sep 2014 2:04AM GMT
Classification: Query
I had to put my computer away for a few days because I am officially obsessed with figuring this out!! It sounds like we have the same lineage up until Manuel Cordova (Cordaway). Mine is the same but goes John Cordaway(brother of Manuel Cordaway)>Napoleon Cordaway>Lena Cordaway>Sophia Ybarbo who was born in Karnes city and was my grandmother. I went to the San Antonio Library today to make sure I had the Ybarbo side right but the Texana genealogy section was closed. My grandmother's paternal side was Ybarbo with the same exact lineage up until Juan Jose Ybarbo who was married to Alaphonsa Flores. Maria Regina's brother Ventura is my grandmother's Grandfather. I went to the library to look at the book Antonio Gil Ybarbo and his Descendents just to be sure but i'll have to make another trip. If I'm correct then we have some intermarrying going on between Ybarbo and Cordaway's which i'm starting to realize happened a lot between these two families. I'm not even sure that I have the right Napoleon. I do have my great grandmother's death certificate and her parents were listed as Napoleon Cordaway and Maria Cordaway. I just can't find any other record of them being married or that they were the parents of Lena Cordaway. It's so confusing!!! My name is Carrie by the way and yes I would love to collaborate and see if we can figure out where the Cordaways came from. Do you have any information as to what part of Louisiana John, Manuel and Leandro were from?

Re: Matheo Antonio Gil Y'Barbo

Posted: 30 Sep 2014 4:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 30 Sep 2014 4:50PM GMT
The three Cordova brothers were all born in Los Adeas, East Texas Province (now Louisiana.) The Cordova's and the Ybarbo's were among the original settlers sent by Spain to colonize the area to ward of a French intrusion in the mid 1700s, When Spain ordered the abandonment of the fort, the colonists fought to remain. Some stayed, some traveled to San Antonio as ordered. Eventually, Antonio Gil Ybarbo, who lead the quest to return to Los Adeas, settled at and founded Nacogdoches which, though close to Los Adaes was a more favorable area. All the time the Cordova's and the Ybarbo's traveled as part of this group, as friends and family. So, yes, you will find a lot of intermarrying among these and other original families. The three Cordova brothers were born around 1835 (see the Alba tree for more exact dates.) As you note, they surely were also of Native American descent. Many of the colonists intermarried with the Caddo tribe that lived in the area. We visited the Jean Bautiste museum in Natchitoches a couple of years ago and they have census lists of the families that populated Los Adaes. I wish we could have stayed longer to go over the lists more closely. The curator who helped us was an Ybarbo descendant and a Native American. By the way the Cordova brothers were alternately known as Cordaway (spelled many different ways.) We don't know when or why the name evolved, but we think it may have been because of the Cordova Rebellion in Texas. Our Cordova line migrated to Edroy, Texas by covered wagon in the early 1900s. These are just snippets of the whole story, but it is well documented.

Re: Matheo Antonio Gil Y'Barbo

Posted: 1 Oct 2014 1:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am at a complete roadblock with the Cordova side. My great grandfather's side is pretty easy because it is well documented. It goes for Lee Ybarbo my great grandfather all the way up to Antonio Gil Ybarbo. My great grandmother's side if not so easy. My Grandmother's birth certificate says her parents were Lee Ybarbo and Lena Cordaway. In 1910 they were living in Karnes city and my grandmother was born in 1913. We know through stories passed down that he left her and remarried and I think that's why the census in 1910 is the only record of them being together. Lena Cordaway's death certificate says her parents were Napoleon and Maria Cordaway. I can't find a single thing linking Napoleon Cordaway to a Maria -- or the birth of my grandmother Lena. I find Napoleon Cordaway married to Lina Cordaway but there is no child named Lena born in 1893. I thought that I had the wrong Napoleon Cordaway but my mother remembers my grandmother talking about her Tio Leandro. My mother also remembers visiting Tia Catarina his wife. My mom remembers visiting their graves in Karnes City so they are both buried there. I found an Andrew Cordaway buried in Karnes City and his wife was Carolina. Looking through census records for karnes city I found that Andrew was John H. Cordaway's son who was the son of John Cordaway and Maria Regina Ybarbo. I just wonder if my great grandmother Lena was maybe from a second family that Napoleon Cordaway had. Maybe she was illegitimate. My mom is trying to contact a cousin who lives in Corpus Christi who years ago said he did some family research of the Cordova's. His last name is Garcia but I think his grandmother or grandfather was a Cordova. Did you come across a Lena Cordova Cordaway in any of your research because i am completely stumped. My home email is cpresses@satx.rr.com. I live in San Antonio. Unfortunately I work full time and have 10 year old twin boys so i can't spend as much time as i would like on this. I am going to the library this weekend to see what i can find. I better get back to my real job!!

Carrie
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