I am now researching my LAMBIE/LAMMIE ancestors. William LAMBIE/LAMMIE married Margaret ORR on 26 Dec 1828 at Murkirk. Margaret ORR was born on 8 Apr 1810 in Muirkirk to John ORR and Jean/Jane SMITH.

The following children were born to William and Margaret in Muirkirk. John LAMMIE b 2 Oct 1829, George LAMMIE b 2 Jan 1833. Janet LAMMIE b 30 Jun 1834.

They then moved to Avondale, Lks where James 1835, Margaret 1837, Jean and Thomas 1840 (Twins) were born.

My GGGrandfather George LAMMIE (as George LAMBIE which he used from then on) married Elizabeth STEVENSON in Paisley in 1858? and came to New Zealand in 1861 his wife and 2 children, William born 1859 in Eaglesham, Renfrew, and Mary born 1860 Loudon, Ayr (My GGrandmother).

I would like to make contact with decendents of any of the LAMBIE/LAMMIE lines of William LAMMIE/Margaret ORR

re your search for any Lammie family - my mother was a lLammie. Her father was Benjamin Lammie, his father was John. In that family, the names William and Catherine appear. I would be pleased to hear if there is any connection. regards

Do you happen to have the names of your Margaret Orr's parents or siblings.Thank you. Penni

William LAMBIE married Margaret ORR in Auchinleck, Ayr, Scotland in 1828.
His first 3 children were baptised in Muirkirk,Ayr, Scotland as LAMMIE
His next 3 children were baptised in Avondale, LKS, Scotland as LAMBIE. One of this group came to New Zealand
Even now in New Zealand the pronouncation sounds like LAMMIE. Reoccuring names are, William, George, Robert.
Sorry, to my knowledge we do not have one Benjamin or Catherine. But there are not many LAMMIE/LAMBIE families and there must be a connection somewhere

i saw ur message and my grandfather was named george. iam curious to know more. my father says that we decsended from scotland. i'll try to find out more. he also said something about a name le monte or something.

You will have to identify your Lammie DOB are place of birth. Until you know these, it will not be possible to identify if there is a link.

If you look at my original posting of 4 Feb 2000, it gives all the birthplaces and baptism dates. If you find a link to one of these people please contact me again.

Margaret Mundy
NZ

I bumped into this tonight and thought I had to reply regarding the Lammie/Lambie's frm Muirkirk. My great great grandfather was christened Thomas Lammie. He was born to Robert Lammie and Janet Anderson in 1845. He changed his name to Lambie for some reason and that is how the family has been known ever since. Any interest?

As your family also came from Muirkirk, from the same time period as mine, I am sure that there must be a link. However I do not know how. I have not done any further research other than what I had posted in my previous message. Perhaps Thomas was a brother to William my earliest LAMMIE/LAMBIE whose first 3 children were born in Muirkirk 1829 - 1834.

I do feel that the spelling may have had more to do with the parish clerk, as for my family it is only in Muirkirk that the names were spelt as LAMMIE. This is how the name is pronunced in the area that the LAMBIES settled in in NZ.

Well I think if anything, Thomas could be a nephew as his father was born, I would imagine, around 1815-1820. I'm not sure on that one and will look into it this morning if I have a chance. Robert Lammie and Janet Anderson were married in 1841 in Murkirk but Thomas married Mary Goldie in New Cumnock, Ayrshire as Lambie in 1870. The family have been spelt with a 'b' ever since. Robert may have been a brother to yours I'm not sure. You mentioned William, well I know that is a family name, my great-grandfather was William Anderson Lambie. I'll check the 1881 census for Lambie and Lammie in Muirkirk and see what I come up with.

As promised I did some checking regarding your William and my Thomas. Thomas was the son of Robert Lammie married in Muirkirk to Janet Anderson in 1841.

On checking back I have these results but I'd have to get them properly checked of course. I could find no record of Robert and William's births in Muirkirk or any other Lammie but there was John, Alexander Cunningham, Robert and William all born to William Lammie and Margaret Allan in Dundonald ranging from 1799 to 1805. Dundonald isn't very far from Muirkirk and so it is possible they could have noved there.

All this being correct then William and Robert were brothers. Robert was my ggg grandfather.

I have not yet proved the birth of William LAMBIE. All I know for sure is that he married Margaret ORR in 1828 in Auchlinleck, AYR and had 3 children in Muirkirk, AYR 1829 - 1834 and then another 4 in Avondale, LKS 1835 - 1840.

I am still trying to find a census record for any of this family in either the 1841 or 1851 census. Because they seemed to have moved arround a bit (they were shepherds), I just have to plod through likely parishes. I know that the son George married in Lockwinnoch in 1858 did not leave Scotland until 1861. If I could find one census with a birthplace, I would feel more confident as to whether or not there were links with your LAMBIE family.

Margaret Mundy

On the 1851 Index I found the follwing in Mauchline:
William born 1796
Margaret born 1802
Elizabeth born 1837
William born 1841
Margaret born 1842
Mary born 1843
George born 1845

Can check the actual index if you wish.

Ewan

Thank you for posting that information. Although it is not my family, it is another parish that I can cross off/leave till the end of checking all the parishes for the 1841/1851 census. It takes such a long time for some of the films to arrive, that sometimes I forget that I have ordered them. I have now made up a list and write when I order and when I get them.

Thanks once again for taking the trouble to post the information

Margaret Mundy
Papatoetoe NZ

Thank you for your reply. Should you wish me to check the 1851 index please let me know.

Regards

Ewan

My last name is Lammie. My grandfather name is John Edward Lammie Sr. Trying to find out our surname before it was changed to Lammie

Most likely, and with a high probability, it was 'LAMBIE'. If you have any dates I could check and see what the spelling was and how it changed for you.

My great grandmother was Jean/Jane Lambie Napier. Jane married John Napier June 7th, l866 at Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. Their children Margaret Orr, August 3, l867 & Jennie, February 2, 1869 were born in Scotland. They came to the US about 1870 to Kansas City for John worked for the Union Pacific Railroad. I found them in the 1870 North Platte, NE census. My grandmother, Janet (Jessie) Lambie Napier was born there May 29, 1871. From there they went to Cheyenne, WY, then went back to Scotland when Grandma was 2 years old. Mary Kirk Napier was born October 27, 1876 in Scotland. They then came back to Cheyenne, WY where John Napier is suppose to have died but I have not found any death certificate in WY yet. Jane then came to SD, ran a boarding house at Forest City, SD. Sne later married a James Black. Jane died May 2, l914 & is buried at Gettysburg, SD. I have a picture of Margaret Orr Lambie & the John & Jane Napier family.
If you have any further information that i do not have, I would sincerely appreciate receiving it. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thank you, Edith

My great grandmother was Jean/Jane Lambie Napier. Jane married John Napier June 7th, l866 at Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. Their children Margaret Orr, August 3, l867 & Jennie, February 2, 1869 were born in Scotland. They came to the US about 1870 to Kansas City for John worked for the Union Pacific Railroad. I found them in the 1870 North Platte, NE census. My grandmother, Janet (Jessie) Lambie Napier was born there May 29, 1871. From there they went to Cheyenne, WY, then went back to Scotland when Grandma was 2 years old. Mary Kirk Napier was born October 27, 1876 in Scotland. They then came back to Cheyenne, WY where John Napier is suppose to have died but I have not found any death certificate in WY yet. Jane then came to SD, ran a boarding house at Forest City, SD. Sne later married a James Black. Jane died May 2, l914 & is buried at Gettysburg, SD. I have a picture of Margaret Orr Lambie & the John & Jane Napier family.
If you have any further information that i do not have, I would sincerely appreciate receiving it. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thank you, Edith

I was really interested in your message. Sorry about the delay in replying as I have been on leave for the past month, and I am just catching up.

Do you know when Jean LAMBIE was born? I feel that there is a connection. I base this on the fact that she named her first daughter Margaret Orr.

In my family William LAMBIE married Margaret Orr in 1828. I know of seven children including a Jean LAMBIE baptised 29 Mar 1840. She was a twin to a Thomas. I have NOT found a death for either of these children, so it appears that they lived to adulthood. She would make her about the right age for your Jean LAMBIE.

Looking forward to hearing from you

Margaret Mundy
Papatoetoe NZ

William Lambie/Margaret Orr
I see you are looking for information about William Lamabiae & Margaret Orr. They are my great-grandmother's Jean (Jane) Lambie Napier parents.
I have William Lambie born January 22, 1806, Mauchlin, Ayr, Scotland; married Margaret Orr, December 26, 1828, Auchinleck, Scotland; Margaret Orr, born april 10, l810, Muirkirk, Ayr, Scotland.
This is from the LDS Scottish files. Also listed on tyhe file were children:
James Lambie born Novembert 23, l835.
Margaret Lambie born June 23, 1837.
Twins
Jean (Jane) Lambie & Thomas Lambie born March 29, 1840, Glasglow, Lanark, Scotland. Jean (Jane) Lambie married John Napier, June 7, 1866, Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland.
I have more information about Jean (Jane) Lambie if you would like it. E-mail me at editbartels@hotmail.com. Thanks Edith.

I have an Agnes Lambie who died 1790 in Riccarton,Ayr. She was married to James Howie b. 1721 in Riccarton. Is there any connection?

Edith -This message was first sent to your hotmail account and bounced.
How wonderful to hear from you. Yes William Lambie and Margaret Orr are my great grandfathers parents as well

The children that I have for this family are: - Note the different spellings in different parishes.
John LAMMIE b 2 Oct 1929, bapt 11 Oct 1829 at Muirkirk
George LAMMIE b 2 Jan 1833, bapt 9 Jan 1833 at Muirkirk -( my line) married Elizabeth Stevenson 14 May 1858 at Lockwinnoch, REN, SCT. Emigrated to NZ in 1862.
Janet LAMMIE b 13 Jun 1834, bapt 13 Jul 1834 at Muirkirk married William Prentice 18 Dec 1857
John Lambie bapt 13 Nov 1835 at Avondale, LKS, SCT
Margaret Lambie bapt 23 Jul 1837 at Avondale, LKS, SCT
Thomas and Jean (Twins) bapt 29 Mar 1840 at Avondale, LKS, SCT

I would love to have details of your LAMBIE/NAPIER line. I am using a genealogy program (Legacy) so if you can GEDCOM, I can cope with that.

I have all of George LAMBIE's family in NZ, down to the present. Would you like a GEDCOM, or would you prefer a paper copy of my line.

I have not yet identified the birth parish of William Lambie. I have been unable to find him and his family in a census record. Have you stumbled over him at all. I know that they are not in Avondale in the 1841 and 1851 census. I would dearly love to find them in the 1851 census, as that gives the parish of birth, and that would help clinch the matter.

It is so exciting to find some else linked to the same family. Thank you so much for contacting me.

Margaret Mundy
Papatoetoe New Zealand

Margaret,
I am finally getting back to you about Jean (Jane) Lambie who married John Napier June 7, 1866, Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland. They had 4 daughters:

Margaret Orr Napier born August 3, 1867, Scotland, married James Buey; died March 28, 1954, Oceanside, San Diego County, CA ; buried at Oceanside, CA.

Jennie Mitchell Napier born February 2, 1869, married James Tuttle; we have no information about Jennie but do know her childrens names were Myra, May & John. I'm still looking for information about them.

Janet (Jessie) Napier born May 29, 1871, North Platte, Lincoln County, Nebraska; married Edwin DeLoss Sutton January 1, 1894, Forest City, Potter County, South Dakota; died March 27, 1940, Pierre, Hughes County, SD; buried Onida, Sully County, SD. Jessie is my grandmother.

Mary Kirk Napier born October 27, 1876, Scotland; married William Ripley May 25, 1897, Forest City, Potter County, SD; died February 25, 1944, Gettysburg, Potter County, SD, buried in Gettysburg.

When John & Jean (Jane) Lambie Napier came to the US from Scotland, they came to the Kansas City, Kansas area where he worked for the Union Pacfic Railroad. I have listed on the North Platte, NE 1870 Census& owning a house there. They then went to Cheyenne, Wyoming all the time working for the Union Pacfic Railroad. They went back to Scotland when Grandma was 2 years old where Aunt Mary was born in 1876. They returned to Cheyenne, Wy where John Napier ddied in 1880. Jean then came to South Dakota with her 4 daughters settling at Forest City, SD where she ran a boarding house. She married James Black. He died from a rattlesnake bite. Jean died at her daughter, Jessie Sutton's home at Agar, SD. James & Jean Black are buried in Gettysburg, SD
It is great to know we are related. We were in the South Island of NZ in 1987 & again the North Island in1990, beautiful country.
I am not to sure but I could have William Lambie's parents as John Lambie & Margaret Black because they have a William Lambie listed as born January 22, 1806, Mauchline, Ayr, Scotland. His father was born July 27, 1792, Mauchline, Ayr, Scotland. Where his mother was born I don't have.


He has brothers & sisters:

Sara born March 21, 1802, Mauchline, Ayr, Scotland

John born January 1, 1804, Mauchline, Ayr. Scotland

Elizabeth born April 19, 1808, Mauchline, Ayr, Scotland

Daniel born July l, 18l0, Mauchline, Ayr, Scotland

Gavin born May 10, 1812, Mauchline, Ayr, Scotland

Agnes born February 25, 1816, Mauchline, Ayr, Scotland

George born May 15, 1814, Mauchline,Ayr, Scotland

I got this from the LDS Family History Center from their Scottish files. I am going to check them again to see if I have it right. Did you ever come up with these names?
It will be fun to keep in touch & update what we know.
Your cousin, Edith Bartels

Edith, You also need to join the Lambie mailing list at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/l/lambie.html

John Lambie and Margaret Black were ancestors of mine, they had 13 children!

Paul Lambie

Ewan, i saw your message on the ancestry message board.You have a George Lammie being born in 1845 along with his siblings. I think that this George is my Grt Grt Grandfather, i havent been able to find any info on him, except that he married Jane Wilson,their daughter Jessie my Grt Grandmother married William Young in 1898 she was 21 when she married making her born around 1877 she had a few sibling, so this could be him. I would be very grateful if you could give me any more info you might have on this family.By the way Jessie was married at Hillend Kirkconnel i dont know where that is, but my dad said as far as he knows the Lammies came from Dumfriesher or Dundee, hes not sure, please get in touch. Regaards Anne.

Hi Ewan, i just posted a message to you via this board but for some reason it hasnt gone. Anyway i saw a reply you posted to A Margaret Mundy about the Lammies, you gave a list of the 1851 Census with a few brothers and sisters i think George Was my Grt Grt Grandfather. I have no info on him Except that he married a Jane Wilson, and their daughter Jessie , my Grt Grandmother married William Young at Hillend Kirkconnel in 1898, she was 21 when she married making her born 1877, she had other siblings so i think this George that you have found on the 1851 Census is the George i have been looking for.I dont know where my George was born, but my dad said they came from around the Dumfriesher or Dundee area of Scotland. What info can i give you for you to be able to help me Ewan.I have been searching for ages now for details on him and i would be very grateful for any help you can give me. Please get in touch. Regards Anne.

Hello Fiona
I think we may be related. My great grandfather was John Lambie. He died at Blackside, Sorn in 1941 at the age of 89 and is buried in Douglas new cemetery. According to the register of his death his father was Robert Lambie and his mother was Janet Anderson. Robert Lambies father was Thomas Lambie (taken from the same register of deaths) and his mother was Margaret Mair (Moir?). I wasn't aware of the change of spelling. It could open up new avenues. Do you have anything further on these people? This is as far as I've been able to get.

Regards
Bob Clement

Hi Bob,

Great to speak to you and you could very possibly be right although I wasn't aware of a John. One positive aspect is that Robert and Janet's 2nd and 3rd child were Thomas and Margaret. Another is that although I have a list of 6 children - Agnes, Thomas, Margaret, William, Martha and Robert there is a gap of 7 years between the 4th and 5th. According to my family info William was born in 1850 and Martha in 1857 leaving a long gap where there had only been a couple of years between the others. The last thing is that that would have been the first generation where there wasn't a John which was unusual. The last two children - Martha and Robert were born in Douglas as Robert ran a farm there at Kinnoxhead so it is highly likely you are one of my huge Anderson/Lambie clan.

I have a full family history going back to Robert Lambie/Lammie and also for Janet Anderson going back to her grandparents. I will happily pass on the info and discuss anything you want to know.

Fiona Farquharson

Hi Fiona
That was quick! As you say, John could fill in a small gap in the Lambie/Anderson family. He died in 1941 at the age of 89 which would have him born 1853 give or take a year. I'd be most grateful for anything you could send me, particularly on the Andersons. If a few photos of Lambies circa 1900 would interest you I could e-mail them to you. Apart from John and one of his sons I have one with John, a brother and four of his sisters.
Many thanks
Bob

Hi,
I have traced back to a marriage of John Imrie and Martha Lambie, who had three children, Jean, Helen (Nov 16, 1794), and Henry ( Arpil 16, 1797). I have found Martha to be an uncommon name, and the combination Martha Lambie suggests a link to yours several decades later. I haven't gotten farther, although I've gone through the OPR films. Any connection?

John
Canada

Hi John,

I have several Marthas in consecutive generations in my Lambie family. Can you tell me where she was born/married and if she had a brother Thomas?

I don't know any other Lambie/Lammies. I got her from the birth records in the OPR of the children. Their residence is at Galston, listed as Cessnock. I found a Cessnock Castle and what appears to be a typical famr estate Cessnock southeast of Galston on www.old-maps.co.uk

John

That's interesting as all my ggg grandfather's family were born at Galston from 1802 to 1820. There is a possibility she is related. What are the names of her children as that quite often gives a clue.

I have the death certificate for Margaret ORR, wife of William LAMBIE, who were married 26 Dec 1828 in Muirkirk.

Margaret died on 19 Oct 1882 age 82, in Wishaw, Lanarks., parents were William ORR, miner and Janet HAMILTON. From the IGI, it looks as if Margaret was christened in Dalserf, Lanarks., on 14 Dec 1800. Her parents seem to have moved around a lot between Ayrshire and Lanarkshire.

Christine

What absolutely wonderful news. She is my GGGrandother!!

Could you contact me off list, as I would love a copy of this as I have not identifed either Margaret or William's deaths. In fact I have not positively identified them in any of the census.

Thank you so much for posting this message

Margaret

Sorry, I was so excited about your info that in my last message that I did not give you my email address. It is

m-mundy@ihug.co.nz

Bye

Margaret

I do know there was a John Lammie, Bill Lammie and Catherine in my family.. But, these people are past and were from Portsmouth Va. Were are of cacasian desent.. And had relatives in New Jersey as well.

If you are there let me know.. wlfhampton@earthlink.net.. We may be able to compare info.... I too am a Lammie, Although, from what i've been able to detect, it might not be a proud thing...But, let's try.

I believe you would be correct, I do remember hearing the name change, however could not find out from what, would you contact me?... wlfhampton@earthlink.net?

Have you given up? Come back, let's talk...

Hi people,

I've never delved into family history research but tonight I came across the names of my great great grandparents and did a search. My great great grandmother was called Jessie Lammie (Janet?), she married John Hunter, and I know they lived in Rigside, Lanarkshire in 1885 when my great grandfather was born.

Anyone have any connections or info?

Hi
I have a Janet (Jeannie) LAMBIE born in Carluke in 1863 or 1865 to James LAMBIE and Jane KIRKLAND. It is possible that she married HUNTER, but I do not have any further info on her personally, but I do have quite a bit on the rest of the family. Her father James was a brother to George LAMBIE who immigrated to NZ.

Margeret

I am a relation in Lanark of Janet Lambie contact macloui1@hotmail.co.uk or phone 01555661537

Hi. I tried to send you an email direct, twice, but got undelivered. Could you try sending direct to mine.
m-mundy@ihug.co.nz I live in New Zealand, so ringing you is not very easy given the time difference. Margaret

Hello, I'm louise mclaren and have posted messages for the margaret melvin and john hunter --- are u a relative? please contact me, many thanks

Hello, havn't tried family tree for ages but here goes. My e mail is macloui1@hotmail.co.uk please contact me regarding Janet Lambie

This is the same ancestry as myself - telephone 01555661537 or 07525636007 many thanks

These are the same ancestry I have, please reply

Hi there
I also am related to Janet Lambie, (married Thomas Baillie) but she was born in 1830.