Well...now I see what you were asking me. I don't know who's information that is. Here I have the Morris County History in front of me. Charles Stickney said in "Old Sussex County Families" that the minister in Chester, Morris County, NJ was the progenitor of the family. I have the Morris History here and this is what it says about the family: "The Presbyterian Church - As already stated, a portion of the early settlers of Black River were Presbyterians from Easthampton, Long Island. Previous to 1740 a Presbyterian house of worship had been erected between Black River and Mendham. In 1745 the church building was erected in Mendham village, and the Presbyterians of Black River soon after were organized into a church, under the name of the First Presbyterian Congregation of Roxbury, and erected an ediface about a mile north of the present village of Chester. The first pastor was Rev. Samuel Harker, or Harcour, probably of Huguenot descent. He graduated at Princeton College, was licensed to preach by the Presbytery of New Brunswick, and according to the records of that presbytery was ordained and installed at Roxbury, on Black River, October 31, 1752. He was therefore probably the first pastor installed in the town. He is mentioned in Foote's Sketches of North Carolina, where some of his family resided, as remarkable for size, vigor and strength. Some of his descendants have occupied most honorable positions. One of his daughters married Judge Symmes, of Marietta Ohio, and was mother-in-law of ex-President Harrison. The son of another daughter who married Dr. Caldwell of Lamington, NJ., was Rev. Dr. Caldwell, at one time a teacher in the College of New Jersey, and for more than thirty years president (the first) of the University of North Carolina. In an autobiography of Dr. Caldwell, published at Chapel Hill by the editors of the university magazine, reference is made to his grandfather's settlement at Black River and the high estimation in which he was held by the community. Mr. Harker, however, unfortunately entertained some doctinal errors, which cased his separation from the church eleven years after his ordination. The presbytery was about to proceed against him in 1757 which it was found that he had left his charge and had gone for a time as chaplain in the army. In Hodges history of the Presbyterian church may be found full details of his case and his final deposition from the ministry by the synod of New York and Philadelphia in 1763. His case is regarded as particularly interesting as an illustration of the early practical administration of Presbyterian government. Mr. Harker perished at sea by the foundering of a ship, with his son, who was on his way to England to receive Episcopal ordination." Here ends the info about Samuel Harcour/Harker. However...the plot thickens...Old Sussex County Families..by Stickney says that John Cleves Symmes (Judge Symmes) married 1)Anna Tuthill 2) widow Halsey and 3) Sussannah Livingston, daughter of William Livingston, Governor of NJ and sister to the wife of the celebrated John Jay. I do think that there is something suspicious about the lack of church records for Harker though. I would expect a whole lot more to make perfect sense than it does. And burials...it seems strange...such a lack of burials for such a large family. I was able to find the records for the Quakers in Hardwick at ancestry and there is nothing on them whatsoever. I know that there is only one entry at the Stillwater Presbyterian church. What do you make of it? I will take a look at Harcour and see if there is anything showing up in New Jersey. Perhaps the name did change around 1750 as many names did. Perhaps they are related to this early Samuel of Chester and the family became disenchanted with the church after what happened to their father. Nothing that I see is convincing me one way or the other. The Burlington county connection seems a stretch...the Morris county connection seems alot more likely. I did find records in the Quaker Philadelphia records at ancestry for Harker...but nothing that jumped out at me. I think this record for James in West Jersey sounds promising because of the Goble name attached to it. But I am still having trouble with the lack of baptisms for the children. That is suspicous. Tina