Hi Bernie, Peter from Canada. I read your message and was able to tie in a couple sources that John Effer and Mary Hex were the parents of Robert Hex Effer, father of Edward Effer my great-great grandfather and common ancester with Jeff Verga. What surprised me was that the fiche listing I have and other website I reviewed only knew Robert's parents as John Effer and Mary ?. I was wondering how you came about Mary's last name being Hex. Anyway on to your question. From my information, Robert Hex was the only son of John and Mary. Is Samual Effer as far back as you go and then there is a gap between Samual and John or does your information have Samual as John's son? Peter