It was interesting to me to notice that the John and Thomas Gillies have the same dates and place of birth that I am searching.(John Gillies born Mar 20 1832 in Perth, Perth Scotland)(Thomas Gillies-28 Dec 1806, Perth, Perth, Scotland)and (John Gillies-15 Jun 1767, Perth Scotland) Also, I am one of the Gillies that lived in Vineyard, Utah and had to move because of Geneva Steel moving in.