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Tekla Carolina & Elias Ferdinand Andersson

Tekla Carolina & Elias Ferdinand Andersson

Posted: 10 Oct 2011 7:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Anderson, Andersson
Searching for relatives to this couple. Both originally came from Sweden around 1900. I think they married in america somewhere. They had 6 children: Emil*1903, Sven*1904, Beatrice Lily Aurora *1910, Olga *1912 & Reinhold *1913.
During the 1916 census they lived in Orkney close to Yorkton. Then the next piece of information that I have found is their grave in Vancouver, BC. No traces of their children except for Beatrice. Please forward to those who might have a clue.

Re: Tekla Carolina & Elias Ferdinand Andersson

Posted: 11 Oct 2011 10:05AM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: ANDERSON
BORDER XING

Name: Emil Ferdinand Anderson
Arrival Date: 28 Jun 1938
Port of Arrival: Metaline Falls, Washington, United States
Arrival Contact: C,John Anderson
Departure Contact: S,Mrs J Mowet
Age: 36
Birth Date: abt 1902
Birth Place: Yorkton ,Saskatchewan
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards
(CANNOT READ THIS PROPERLY)


1906
Name: Elias Anderson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 39
Birthplace: Sweden
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Teckla Anderson
Immigration Year: 1900
Province: Saskatchewan
Sub-District Description: Townships 25, 26 in Ranges 6, 7, 8 West of The 2nd M
Sub-District: 5
+
Name: Teckla Anderson
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 28
Birthplace: Sweden
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Elias Anderson
Immigration Year: 1900
Province: Saskatchewan
+
Name: Emile Anderson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 5
Birthplace: Saskatchewan
Relation to Head of House: Son
+
Name: Eva Anderson
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 3
Birthplace: Saskatchewan
Relation to Head of House: Daughter

Re: Tekla Carolina & Elias Ferdinand Andersson

Posted: 11 Oct 2011 1:32PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Thanks for information.
It is interesting that Eva born approx 1905 is missing and someone called Sven born approx 1904 turns up in the 1916 census. But maybe the year of birth not was so important and details was not taken seriously?

In what way cant you read the borderXing? blurry copy or bad handwriting?

Re: Tekla Carolina & Elias Ferdinand Andersson

Posted: 11 Oct 2011 2:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
You are most welcome!

Couple of things I have learnt thro the years of searching;

Nicknames are often used instead of actual given names (a pain!)

ages can be well out (the biggest difference I have found thus far is 11) so, be generous (I usually do +/- 5 years) when searching

Especially when looking for people other than native speaking people - all sorts can be out... you have to be a tad creative....

The card is quite dark & blurry I'm afraid

kind regards

Ell

Re: Tekla Carolina & Elias Ferdinand Andersson

Posted: 11 Oct 2011 2:15PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: Tekla Anderson, Norsten
Yes I have noticed some quite unexpected spellings. Mainly due to an english speaking person trying to spell swedish names.

As I guess you have access to various archives I will be rude and ask if can you do a quick search on Nils Norsten (or Nels Norsten or Nek Norsten or Nelson Norsten). I think there are a few more spellings, probably a reason why I have not found more about his whereabouts. *1870 in sweden (brother to Tekla Anderson), went overseas 1892. Maybe he lived in Windom, Minnesota during 1893 when his younger brother John Axel *1872 arrived to Ellis Island and wrote that as destination. Married Sarah Lula and had two children, Ellen and Elmer. Left family soon after that. Most of his life he lived in Yorkton and Buchanan. Maybe went to US from Canada but no trace after leaving family.

Re: Tekla Carolina & Elias Ferdinand Andersson

Posted: 11 Oct 2011 2:59PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: GUTHRIE, NORSTEN,
its not rude to ask - you ask away - that's what these boards are all about!


1906
Province: Saskatchewan
Sub-District Description: Town of Yorkton
Sub-District: 37
MISTRANSCRIBED AS NORSTEA

NELS NORSTEN 36 SWEDEN - MARRIED - MIGRATED 1894
(SAYS)SISTER BUT MAY BE WIFE???
SARAH NORSTEN 24 SWEDEN - MIGRATED 1881
NIECE
ELLEN 4 BORN [ASSA*}
NEPHEW
HERBERT 1 BORN [ASSA*)
*DISTRICT OF ASSINIBOIA, NORTHWEST TERRITORIES


1916
Sarah Norsten 34 B USA - CANADIAN NATURLIZED 1906 - MIGRATED TO CANADA 1901
DAUGHTER
Ellen C V Norsten 14 B SASK
SON
El*Mer E Norsten 11 B SASK
Home in 1916: 29, Mackenzie, Saskatchewan
Address: Railway Ave, Lot 3 Block 10



BORDER XING

Name: Nek Norsten
[Nels Norsten]
MARRIED
TRAVELLING ALONE
A CARPENTER
CANADIAN
BUCHANAN, SASK
WIFE SARAH OF BUCHANAN, SASK
(ALSO SAYS FATHER MICHAEL BUT COULD RELATE TO NEXT CHAP DOWN)
FINAL DESTINATION: ABERCROMBIE
Arrival Date: Jan 1911
Port of Arrival: St Albans, Vermont, United States
Age: 41
Birth Date: abt 1870
Birth Country: Sweden
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Scandinavian
Record Type: Manifests


JUST MAYBE
TENNESSEE MARRIAGES
Name: Ellen Norsten
Spouse: Paul V Guthrie
Marriage Date: 21 May 1926
Marriage County: Hamblen


1930
Paul V Guthrie 30 B TENN
Ellen Guthrie 27 B CANADA
John N Guthrie (NEW BORN)
District 4, Davidson, Tennessee


Name: Ellen Guthrie
SSN: 408-70-5123
Last Residence: 37618 Bluff City, Sullivan, Tennessee, United States of America
Born: 31 Jul 1902
Died: Nov 1975
State (Year) SSN issued: Tennessee (1960)

Name: Paul Guthrie
SSN: 413-10-4179
Last Residence: 37865 Seymour, Sevier, Tennessee, United States of America
Born: 10 Jun 1899
Died: Jun 1968
State (Year) SSN issued: Tennessee (Before 1951)


WW1
Name: Paul Vinceent Guthrie
County: Hamblen
State: Tennessee
Birth Date: 10 Jun 1899
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1852990
DraftBoard: 0

Re: Tekla Carolina & Elias Ferdinand Andersson

Posted: 11 Oct 2011 8:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: ANDERSON
Hi, Do you know if the children had middle names - may help with research.

Perhaps:
Name: Emil Ferdinand Anderson
Arrival Date: 28 Jun 1938
Arrival Port: Metaline Falls, Washington,
Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: 1902
Birthplace: , morkton ,Saskatchewan ?should be Yorkton??
Birth Country: Canada
Gender: Male
Race: Scandinavian
Departure Contact: S,Mrs J Mowet
Arrival Contact: C,John Anderson
Record has photo?: N
NARA Publication Title:
NARA Publication Number: Imusawa1917a
NARA Roll Number: 082627



From the Provincial Archive of British Columbia
Vital Events Index
Marriage 1859-1934 Birth 1872-1903 Death 1872-1989

Elias Ferdinand Anderson Age:76 Event:Death
Place Vancouver
Date:1943 5 22 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Reg. Number:1943-09-624685
Microfilm #:B13179 (GSU # 1953639)

Tekla Caroline Anderson Age:85 Event:Death
Place Burnaby Date:1965 5 4 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Reg. Number:1965-09-006541
Microfilm #:B13272 (GSU # 2033725)

Filmed registrations can be viewed at No Cost - Transcribed -Photo copies .50 cents or less - depending on copy machine.
There are Volunteers at Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness - British Columbia. *Volunteers may charge for out of pocket expenses -copy postage fuel.
Will search for Public Record /regs - some offer search for OBITUARY
OBITUARY - May show names and locations of children and other family members at the time.

Regs will show - depending on requirements of the time - and knowledge of the Informant.

Time in Municipality, Province, Canada
Place of Death Name and Address
Date and Place of Birth. Matital Status - name of spouse
Occupation. Industry Time at Occupation. Last worked
Names of Parents including maiden name of the mother - Place of birth of parents [ depends on knowledge of informant-
Name and address of INFORMANT - Relationship to Deceased
Date of Death - Cause of Death - Burial or Cremation.
Name and Address of Funeral Home, Cemetery. Physician.

Cheers, Stella


Re: Tekla Carolina & Elias Ferdinand Andersson

Posted: 11 Oct 2011 9:22PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: Anderson. Norsten
Thanks again for bothering about my old relatives. I forgot to mention that I know what happened to Nils wife Sarah and the children, Ellen and Elmer Ernest. This I can claim because I actually managed to find a grandaughter(born Guthrie) and we have exchanged some emails. Hopefully more to come. It was just what happened after he deserted the family that we knew nothing about.

Unfortunately do I not have any middle names for the Anderson kids nor exact dates of birth. Emil Ferdinand sounds very likely to be the son, inheriting his fathers middle name. But on the other hand "Beatrice Lily Aurora" does not show any known names from the mothers side. Maybe from the fathers? I have not found his background yet. Teklas parents were called Joakim and Brita Carolina Norsten and she had a sister called Emma Margret that stayed in Sweden.

Beatrice was married to W. Salter and I have also been in contact with her grandson. Unfortunately was his story very short as his parents had divorced and that side of his family quite unknown to him.

Vänliga hälsningar
Katarina

Re: Tekla Carolina & Elias Ferdinand Andersson

Posted: 13 Oct 2011 4:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Katarina,
My brother-in-law's grandfather was Isaac Mauritz ANDERSON, brother to Elias Ferdinand. I have some information on the ANDERSONs in Sweden, Minnesota, Saskatchewan and some other places.
I think Elias & Tekla's eldest son, Emil, may be buried in the
Yorkton City Cemetery
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cansacem/yorkton.html

Section C Anderson, Emil 1902 - 1964 (15)

I will send you more information privately.

Adele

Re: Tekla Carolina & Elias Ferdinand Andersson

Posted: 13 Oct 2011 8:09PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Looking forward to further communications.

/Katarina
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