I am looking for a genealogist who has a specialty in the Irish of Indianapolis. The Holland family I am researching arrived in Indianapolis in 1859. John Holland probably worked for a railroad, and the family lived in the Irish Hill area. I am planning a trip to Indianapolis and wonder what repositories will be helpful. Is there a local Irish genealogical group? Names and suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.

being from indianapolis .i am familiar with the side of town it was located.just google it irish hill indianapolis.of course i did not even know about it.it seems kingan meat packing brought a lot of workers over here.i think the church was the one at warman and washington but now multilingual .big church.but there is a catholic school 2 blks north been there long time.the state history musuem is about 5 miles north of there that is where i would start.what names are you mainly looking for in indy

do you know approx age of birth /was he married?i found a john holland wife mary children tim/mikel/katie/willie. but there were alot of hollands in indiana.

There are microfilm records at:
Indiana State Library
Genealogy Division
140 North Senate Ave.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
www.statelib.lib.in.us

Actually the Genealogy Division is at the South (Ohio Street) entrance. Microfilm on second floor. The records for the churches in the Archdiocese of Indianapolis are in the Marion county drawer. You would be looking for St John`s records, and possibly St Patrick 1867-68 on. Listings for Holy Cross (Catholic) Cemetery and Crown Hill Cemetery are also in the Marion county drawer.

Terry

Thank you, Marilyn and Terry, for your replies. John and Mary (Kirby) Holland had 10 children--all of whom but 2 died by age 22. They are mostly buried at Holy Cross cemetery.

John died in 1890 in what seems to be an accident involving the railway, according to the death certificate. I have not found a news article yet about it. There was apparently no coroner's office at the time (or those records have not been preserved).

What I would like to know is whether they came with other Irish. Four kids were born in Maryland, according to the 1860 census, but I can't figure out where in Maryland. Perhaps other Hollands in Indianapolis were relatives. I would like to find someone who can tell me about the Irish community in the 1850s and 1860s. Is there an Ancient Order of Hiberians with some local records? Which parish is the oldest? Are there records for the railroads--perhaps payroll?

I have been to the State Library. I'm trying to figure out what resources I've missed. I have not had a chance yet to look at naturalizations, so that will be one goal. I'd appreciate any more guidance.

Stephanie

Stephanie
I`ve done a lot of research on Irish in Indianapolis and a lot of research on Hollands, but unfortunately the Hollands I`ve researched weren`t Irish. Below is a possibility for a sister of John Holland. My thought hangs mainly on the point that Timothy Holland was appointed guardian and executor of the estate 29 Jun 1881. As I understand it your Timothy died 12 Dec 1881. On 16 Feb 1882 John Holland was appointed administrator and guardian. Could just be a coincidence, but might be worth you looking at. I saw another article on Mary Holland Daly`s lawsuit, but didn`t type because it was long. It was an appeal to the Indiana Supreme Court by the insurance company on the grounds that her husband drank to excess. If I am reading it correctly she won there too because the court said that although her husband was known to drink, that wasn`t involved at the time of his death. Let me know if you need the article.

Terry

Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941
Name: Eugene Daly
Spouse Name: Mary A Holland
Marriage Date: 25 Nov 1862
Marriage County: Marion
Source Title 1: Marion County, Indiana
Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1861 - 1865 Inclusive Vol
Source Title 3: Original Record Located: County Clerk's Office Ind
Book: 131

1870 Census 1st enum
2nd Ward City of Indianapolis Marion county Indiana
13 Aug 1870 87 of 125 p o Indianapolis Indiana
dwg 683 fam 680
Daily Eugene 35 m w works in lm yard 800 b Ire f for bth m for bth citizen
Mary 30 f w b Ire f for bth m for bth
Mary 6 f w b In f for bth m for bth
Daniel 4 m w b In f for bth m for bth
Joanna 1 f w b In f for bth m for bth

1870 Census 2nd enum
Sub Div 3 Indianapolis Marion county Indiana 2nd enum
4 Feb 1871 14 of 150 p o Indianapolis
dwg 106 fam 125
Daily Eugene 35 m w wks in lumber yd 200 b Ire f for bth m for bth citizen
Mary 30 f w keeps house b Ire f for bth m for bth
Mary 6 f w b In f for bth m for bth
Daniel 4 m w b In f for bth m for bth
next page same dwg and fam
Daily Hannah 1 f w b In f for bth m for bth

Indianapolis Sentinel
21 Feb 1877 p 7
DALY- On February 19, at his residence, 252 South West, Eugene Daly, of congestion of the brain. Funeral services Wednesday February 21, at 9:30 o`clock, St. John`s cathedral. Friends invited to attend without further notice.

Indianapolis Sentinel
9 Aug 1877 p 3
Around The Court House
The probate department furnished but one item, Mary A. Daily was appointed administratix of the estate of Eugene Daily, deceased. Bond $2,000.

Indianapolis Sentinel
8 Feb 1878 p 3
Local Courts
Superior Court
In room 1 the case of Eugene Daly`s widow against the John Hancock insurance company for recovery of policy granted on Daly`s life for $2,000.

Indianapolis Sentinel
13 Feb 1878 p 3
Local Courts
Superior Court
Hon. John A. Holman, Hon. Daniel W. Howe, Hon. Byron K. Elliott and Hon. Myron H. Williams, Judges.
In room 1 in the case of the widow of Eugene Daly against the Hancock Life insurance company there was a finding for plaintiff in the sum of $2,070.

1880 Census
Indianapolis Marion county Indiana
18 Jun 1880 22 of 60
West Sharpe street rear hse 16 dwg 194 fam 937
Daley Mary A w f 35 mother wd b Ire f b Ire m b Ire
Mary C w f 16 daugh s at home b In f b Ire m b Ire
Danl w m 14 son s laborer b In f b Ire m b Ire
Nora w f 8 daugh s at schl b In f b Ire m b Ire
Elizabeth w f 4 daugh s at home b In f b Ire m b Ire

Indianapolis Sentinel
29 Jun 1881 p 8
Timothy Holland was yesterday granted letters of administration upon the estate of Mary Daily. Letters of guardianship for the minor children were also issued to Mr. Holland. Bond,$1,000.

Indianapolis Sentinel
14 Nov 1881 p 3
Frank McWhinney and wife to John A. Holland, quit claim deed to lot 7 in outlot 131 in the city of Indianapolis.
Real Estate Transfers
John A Holland and wife to the heirs of Eugene Daly, deceased, quit claim deed to lot 7 in outlot 131 in the city of Indianapolis.

Timothy Holland died 12 Dec 1881

Indianapolis Sentinel
16 Feb 1882 p 6
ABOUT THE CITY
John Holland has been appointed administrator of Mary A. Daley`s estate and guardian of Mary, Daniel, Nora and Bessie Daley. Bond in the former $200, and in the latter, $1,400.

Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941
Name: Daniel Daly
Marriage Date: 16 Nov 1892
Marriage County: Marion
Estimated Birth Year: 1865
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Father Name: Eugene
Mother Name: Mary Ann Holland
Source Title 1: Marion County, Indiana
Source Title 2: Index to Supplemental Record Marriage Transcript 1
Source Title 3: W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's O
Book: 4
OS Page: 93

Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941
Name: Daniel A Daly
Spouse Name: Annie Ryan
Marriage Date: 16 Nov 1892
Marriage County: Marion
Estimated Birth Year: 1868
Age: 24
Source Title 1: Marion County, Indiana
Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1891 - 1895 Inclusive Vol
Source Title 3: Original Record Located: County Clerk's Office Ind
Book: 497

Wow, Terry! You have done an awful lot of research on those Irish Hollands, whether you knew it or not. Unfortunately, I did not see your post until today--after spending the past 5 days in Indianapolis. My research turned up Mary Holland and Eugene Daly in the records of St. John Catholic church. But I wasn't sure if she was related to my John Holland. (There are multiple John Hollands in Indianapolis, and most Holland females are named Mary.)

The probate and deeds suggest that John might have been Mary's brother. I have been looking for immigration records without success.

I'm not sure how Timothy fits in to all this. He was a son of John A. and died at the age of 22.

Do you live in Indianapolis? Where do Hollands fit into your family tree? I have more questions and would like to see that article. Rather than having you type it, perhaps you could mail a copy to me.

Please contact me directly at Icedancer_sjm at msn.com.

I'm happy to share what I have on my (husband's) Holland line.

Thanks so much for the information--it's a gold mine!

Stephanie