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Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

Bill Nolan  (View posts) Posted: 7 Apr 2005 9:38PM GMT
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Surnames: Nolan/Nolen/Noland/Nolin
My GGF and his brother were sharpshooters in I Company of the 6th TX Cav Regt. For the Corinth Campaign they were attached to Col Stirman's Bn AR. Does any one have any info on their deployment at Corinth, Hatchie Bridge and their effectiveness. My GGf was captured at Hatchie Bridge with a broken arm. Later paroled and returned to the 6th TX.

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

Bruce Allardice  (View posts) Posted: 16 Aug 2005 4:21AM GMT
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Col. Stirman wrote some brief memoirs/letters home, which were published. I don't know how to get a copy.

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

steve mayer  (View posts) Posted: 12 Oct 2005 3:12PM GMT
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Try the internet and bring up University of Arkansas Special Collections under The Rebecca Stirman Papers. Quite a few Erasmus Stirman letters are located there. Col. Ras Stirman left Fayetteville Ar in 1879 and moved to Denver, Colorado where he lived until his death in Jan 1914. He is buried as a CSA Veteran in Denver's famous Farimount Cemetary. Thanks! Steve (former resident of Rogers Ar and presently living in Denver, Colorado since 1974.

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

William Lavoie  (View posts) Posted: 14 Mar 2006 5:28AM GMT
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Hi--

I am Ras Stirman's great grandson, and I am interested in following up with you regarding information on the battle at Corinth. I have been working with the Washington County Historical Society in Fayetteville AK for a couple of years with regard to Ras, and our quest these days is to find his military photo. The family has other photos, copies of which we've donated to the WCHS, but soemhow we cannot locate his photo in uniform. Corinth is a lead I haven't investigated much until now, and I would appreciate any information or leads you could offer. do you have a photo of your GGF at the time. If there are others in that photo, (i.e., not a portrait,) perhaps one is Ras.
Any communication would be appreciated.
Regards,
William Lavoie

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

Bill Nolan  (View posts) Posted: 14 Mar 2006 12:56PM GMT
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William, My GGF and GGU were privates in Company K, 6th TX Cav and were attached to Ras Stirman's Regiment for Corenth. As I try to discover these two family members, I have had a cource in history. Petter Cozzen's book, The Darkest Days of the War, is quite good on Phifer's Brigade. Other discussions on how the SS regiment was designed to be employed, on the Arkansas board plus this book give an interesting picture of battle on the 2nd day of Corinth and Hatchie Bridge. I believe that Ras Stirmans regiment was in the middle of both of those battles and commended itself quite well. If two yankee divisions had not arrived at the time they did, elelments of the brigade may well have over run Rosecarns headquarters. At Hatchie Bridge Ras covered the withdrawel from the east sid of the river after they recrossed. I will have to backtrack, but I seem to remeber seeing a picture online on one of the boards that showed the battle structures. Will try to locate it.
Bill Nolan, Kerrville, TX

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

William Lavoie  (View posts) Posted: 14 Mar 2006 5:17PM GMT
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Dear Bill
Ras writes about that battle in a letter to his sister. Your ancesters were not mentioned in his letter. If you want to read
that letter and others by Ras to his sister, they are compiled
in a book titled "In fine Spirits" and is available from The Washington County Historical Society. There phone # is
479-521-2970.
Good luck with your search.
Bill

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

William Lavoie  (View posts) Posted: 5 Apr 2006 4:38PM GMT
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Bruce
Youcan get a copy of Ras's letters from the Washington County Historical Society. The name of the book is In Fine Spirits and is $24. There address is 118 E. Dickson St.
Fayetteville,AR 72701.
I am a great grandson of Ras. and Iam looking for any information I can find on him. I have quite a bit of information
but am looking for more. Are you related to the family and do you want to share info.
Sincerely
Bill Lavoie

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

Bill Nolan  (View posts) Posted: 5 Apr 2006 11:12PM GMT
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Are the published versions in both script and print? I obtained the 1862 summer & winter letters from the University of Arkansas for copy cost and signing a reproduction agreement.
Have you read the Darkest Days of the War, by Peter Cozzins? It had some of the movements of Phifer's Brigade and showed the Sharpshooters on the left like a line Infantry Regiment. After all the training, it was a wast to not use them as skirmishers. Have you read all the info on this board concerning sharpshooters, Stirman and Bridges who brought a lt Bn of SS from the 6th & 9th TX Cavs? Very interesting! A litttle more on the Texas board. I have a little as I am researching two brothers in Company I, 6th TX who were in Company I of Spirman's Regiment.

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

William Lavoie  (View posts) Posted: 6 Apr 2006 12:13AM GMT
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Thanks for the info. The published version is print.

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

William Lavoie  (View posts) Posted: 6 Apr 2006 1:01AM GMT
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I pulled out the book In fine Spirits. Ras and his men were in the battle to try to recapture Corinth. Ras lost 50% of his men.
Ras's men were able to breach the earthworks and advance
toward the town center but had to withdrawal because Gen Lowell failed to make his effort. ( Page 52) Ras wrote 3 letters
about the Corinth campaign.

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

Bill Nolan  (View posts) Posted: 6 Apr 2006 1:50AM GMT
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Thanks, I have only read one. Now I need to see the book. I cam imagine the Sharpshooters in the middle, even more than written. By exploiting the seam that occurred in front of the regiment they must have allowed both the Alabama reserve and parts of the two adjacent regiments to go toward Roasecarn's Headquarters. Had they over ran that, maybe nither the arrival of the two Union Divisions nor the needed reinforcement of the incursion would have mattered. Maybe we would not have the mess we have today. Again, I appreciate the info.

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

Bill Nolan  (View posts) Posted: 6 Apr 2006 2:42AM GMT
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I wish I had a picture of My Great Grand Father or his brother. My older brother is sitting on our Family photo that were recovered after our mother died in 2000. I have a picture of his wife in about 1906 with her new husband, but that does not help. I am trying to get all I can on the 6th TX Cav Rgt to establish a web page depository. maybe I will find something. There must be some pictures out there. I will also look for a picture of LTC Bridges, in my efforts in Dallas County data for Company I, where many of it's men were mustered. Maybe Ras can be found there. My relatives were Robert Author Nolan (1841,TN-aft 1903,FL) and James Tyre Nolan (1842,TN-1906,GA), both privates.

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

DAVID CARTER  (View posts) Posted: 13 Sep 2006 2:56PM GMT
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mr nolan ive been reading all i can find on stirmans 1st bat
from ark;;;;;;;it just so happens i live in collin county texas an go to mckinney all the time;;;;;;;;;;;also i had just made friends with (mr simpson of hill co jr college),who who wrote the book on (audie leon murphy);;;an i was selling audie murphy books for( mr simpson) all over collin co. just to help out;;;;SIMPSON OFFERED TO HELP ME AN USE HIS FACILITYS;;BUT HE CAME DOWN SICK (PANCREATIC CANCER) AN DIDNT LAST LONG;;;;WE WERE JUST BECOMING FRIENDS;;;;;;;HE ALSO WROTE SEVERAL (CIVIL WAR BOOKS);;;THERE WAS A( CAPT ROY HALL)
& LAWMAN WHO WROTE ARTICLES FOR THE MCKINNEY PAPER ON THESE OLD, CIVIL WAR PEOPLE & COWBOYS & SOLDIERS & OUTLAWS & JESSE JAMES & FRANK & COLE YOUNGER;;;THERES A THROCKMORTAN BURIED AT MCKINNEYS (PECAN GROVE CEMETERY;);PLUS AT LEAST TWO OLD QUANTRILLS RAIDERS COUSINS OF JESSE & FRANK JAMES BURIED THERE;;;;;;YOU MIGHT LOOK UP CAPT HALLS STORYS FROM MCKINNEY LIBRARY OR GENEALOGY SOCIETY;BECAUSE IT COVERS ALL KINDS OF THAT ERA HISTORY;;;;;LIKE WHEN THEY CAUGHT AN HUNG SOME QUANTRILLS RAIDERS,THE BLOOD FROM THE WELL ON THE SQUARE RAN INTO THE MAIN WELL
AN RUINED IT;;;ON THE SQUARE NEAR THE COURT HOUSE;; THE GOVERNOR THROCKMORTON STATUE;
USED TO BE ON THE SQUARE;;ALONG WITH A STATUE OF A CONFEDERATE SOLDIER STATUE;;;;

WILL COPY YOUR REQUEST AN LOOK AROUND MCKINNEY AN THE CEMETERYS FOR YOUR PEOPLE;

DAVID CARTER

Re: Col Ras Stirman, 1st Bn AR Cav (Sharpshooters) TX Connection

DAVID CARTER  (View posts) Posted: 13 Sep 2006 3:07PM GMT
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live in collin co mckinney tx ,interested in civil war(csa) have people in 17th ark infantry & stirmans 1st ark cavalry/ss/mt infantry;;;;;;;;;;ben h carter (stirmans ) & lewis b carter & charles p carter,& jordan h carter all washington co ark;;
charles p carter buried at (orendorf cemetry collin co;)melissa tx just north of mckinney tx on (old hiway 5 at 121)abta mile south ;;co d 17th ark inf at battle of corinth,& hatchie bridge;
as well as stirmans;; will try to help in collin county,looking for you relatives;;;

david carter

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