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John,Minnie Wortham family

alouise69  (View posts) Posted: 29 Nov 2009 11:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: John,Minnie,Fannie Wortham
I'm looking for info on John w. Wortham born in Tn,lived in Texas. Married Minnie or Mamie I'm not sure They were married in 1877.They had 3 children Fannie(another name Tonnie,Tawnie) july 10,1895 in Belton,bell county Tx,Alice 1896 and Alfred 1899. Fannie or Tonnie,Tawnie was my grandmother. She died Dec.28,1934 in Tn. She married Luther Smithson Oct.23,1910.If anyone has any info on wortham family i would appreicate it. Thanks Louise

Re: John,Minnie Wortham family

PaSain  (View posts) Posted: 30 Nov 2009 2:58AM GMT
Classification: Query

06 June 1900, Precinct 5, Dresdin Village, NAVARRO Co, TX
John Wortham Aug 1868 TX married 1893 claimed parents born TN
Minnie Wortham Feb 1877 TN claimed parents born TN
Fannie/Tannie/Tonnie/Tawnie Bell Wortham July 1895 TX
Alice Wortham Dec 1896 TX
Alfred Wortham May 1899 TX

Name: Alfred James Wortham
City: Wynnewood
County: Garvin
State: Oklahoma
Birth Date: 21 May 1900
Race: White
J W Wortham, Corsicana, Texas nearest relative
FHL Roll Number: 1851777
DraftBoard: 0
Source Information: Ancestry.com. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005. Original data: United States, Selective Service System. World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration.

Name: Alfred J Wortham
Social Security #: 568096078
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 21 May 1899
Birthplace: Texas
Death Date: 30 Oct 1963
Death Place: San Bernardino Co CA
Mother's Maiden Name: Marsh
Source Information: Ancestry.com. California Death Index, 1940-1997 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000. Original data: State of California. California Death Index, 1940-1997. Sacramento, CA, USA: State of California Department of Health Services, Center for Health Statistics

Name: Alfred Wortham
SSN: 568-09-6078 - SS 5 will have mother's maiden name to verify California death record of MARSH.
Born: 21 May 1899
Died: Oct 1963
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

1900 census, WW I Draft, California Death Index and SS death record only records found on Alfred James Wortham. The Wortham's didn't care much for census taking.

16 Jan 1920;Census Place: Justice Precinct 1, Tarrant, Texas; Roll T625_1848; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 84; Image: 66
Luther A Smithson 36 TN 1884
Tonnie Smithson 23
Cecil C Smithson 7 1913 TX - born 30 Aug 1912 Ellis County died July 1990 ss # issued IL before 1951
David Raymond/Raymond David Smithson 5 1915 TX
Lillian L Smithson 3 8/12 1916 TX
Ruby M Smithson 6/12 1919 TX
"Lucceta" Wortham 97 1829 TN grand mother
John W Wortham 52 1868 TX father in law father TX

Date of Birth: 30 Aug 1912
Birth County: Ellis
Father's Name: Luther Smithson
Certificate Number: 26878
Roll Number: 1912_0008
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005. Original data: Texas. Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997. Texas: Texas Department of State Health Services.

Name: Luther Akers Smithson
City: Purdon
County: Navarro
State: Texas
Birth Date: 14 May 1887
Race: White, tall, med build, blue eyes, blonde hair, farmer
Tonnie Bell Smithson nearest relative
FHL Roll Number: 1983496
DraftBoard: 2

1900 Civil District 5, Cannon, TN
David A Smithson Sept 1854 TN married 1876
Nancy Catherine WILSON Smithson Apr 1856 TN
Luther Smithson May 1886 TN
Jimmie Smithson Oct 1888 TN dtr
David Walter Smithson 23 May 1891 TN
Myra Smithson Jan 1894 TN
Medford Curn Smithson 16 Jan 1900 TN

Name: D A Smithson
Spouse: Catherine Wilson
Marriage Date: 29 Oct 1876
Marriage County: Cannon
Marriage State: Tennessee
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008. Original data: Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002. Nashville, TN, USA: Tennessee State Library and Archives. Microfilm

1930; Census Place: District 5, Cannon, Tennessee; Roll 2235; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 5; Image: 860.0.
Luther A Smithson 43
Tannie B Smithson 34
Cecil C Smithson 18
Rayman D Smithson 15
Lucie L Smithson 13
Rubie M Smithson 11
Marie Smithson 8 TX
Lennie F Smithson 6 TX dtr
Luther Smithson 3 8/12 TN
Vernon L Smithson 1 TN

Texas death certificates 1890 - 1976, most US census records, soundexes given and surnames.
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0

Lucceta Wortham widow # 8860
17 Jan 1823 TN - 15 March 1921 Riverside, Tarrant, Texas
B. Dillard TN father, Martha Parrish TN mother, J W Wortham, Riverside, informant, buried Birdville, Texas

This cemetery is in Haltom City, 6100 Cemetery Road. Do not find death records for J W and Minnie/Mamie Wortham. Did he go to Cannon County with the Smithson's ?

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txtarran/cemetery/info-bir...
Inventoried and Contributed by: Thomas James
TJAMES542@aol.com
September, 2000
No record for a stone listed for Wortham.

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1880; Census Place: District 3, Madison, Tennessee; Roll T9_1270; Family History Film: 1255270; Page: 161.3000; Enumeration District: 89;
William Marsh 33 1847 NC
Mollie E. Marsh 21 1859 TN KY SC
Minnie Marsh 2 1878 TN

Name: W S Marsh
Spouse: Miss. M E Ruddle
Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1876
Marriage County: Madison
Marriage State: Tennessee

Navarro County
http://www.txgenweb6.org/txnavarro/
245 transcribed items on Wortham surname.

Bell County
http://www.txbell.net/

Re: John,Minnie Wortham family

alouise69  (View posts) Posted: 1 Dec 2009 2:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for the information on the Wortham family. My mother was Lillian Lucille Smithson,or as the census has Lucie L. Smithson.Her mother was Fannie,(Tawnie,Tonnie)Wortham Smithson. There were 2 more children in the family Claude Edward Smithson September 29 1931,Lois Jean Smithson,May 25,1934. Tonnie died December 28,1934. All of the children are now deceased. Would it be possible to get a birth certifacte for Tonnie Smithson?

Re: John,Minnie Wortham family

PaSain  (View posts) Posted: 1 Dec 2009 6:59PM GMT
Classification: Query

Texas legislature passed law in 1903 to start filing birth and death records. Birth's in 1890's would be recorded at county level if at all. Even after the law was passed compliance wasn't enforced until years later.

Cecil C Smithson's birth record just listed as infant of Luther Smithson and mother is not mentioned. That was in 1913. Ruby May Smithson shows her name but not the parents. I rechecked, in Navarro Co in 1919. These records give you a timeframe of where they were as well as Luther's WW I Draft card in Purdon, Navarro Co in 1917-1918

Even with this information I still did not find the Wortham's in 1910 census in Navarro or Ellis Counties show up in Tarrant county in 1920. I found no connection to Bell county on the Wortham's.

Name: Ruby May Smithson
Date of Birth: 2 Jun 1919
Birth County: Navarro
Certificate Number: 28599
Roll Number: 1919_0012

If you are wanting to confirm her mother's maiden name your best option is to obtain copy of her brother's SS-5 which he completed listing his parents names with his mother's maiden name. This form will also give more information on where Alfred James Wortham was when he filed the application. It would also confirm that she was a Marsh as the California death index indicates.

Date of request: 01 Dec 2009

Social Security Administration
OEO FOIA Workgroup
300 N. Green Street
P.O. Box 33022
Baltimore, Maryland 21290-3022

Please send me a photocopy of the actual application for a Social Security card (Form SS-5--Social Security Number Record Third Party Request for Photocopy) filed by the person listed below.

I obtained this information from the Social Security Death Master file at RootsWeb.com, Inc. who obtained it from the Social Security Death Master file, originally compiled by the Social Security Administration.

My understanding is that the fee is $27, when the Social Security number is provided or $29 if the Social Security number is unknown or incorrect. Enclosed is a check or money order for $___________, made payable to the Social Security Administration.

Thank you for your assistance.

WORTHAM, ALFRED
568-09-6078
Birth: 21 May 1899
Death: Oct 1963

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Re: John,Minnie Wortham family

ShirleyEast27  (View posts) Posted: 7 Dec 2009 6:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: wortham
Hello Louise,

If you could email me at granni76166@yahoo.com I have found some info for you on your wortham family.

Re: John,Minnie Wortham family

alouise69  (View posts) Posted: 9 Jul 2010 3:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Wortham,Smithson
John,Minnie were the parents of my Grandmother Tawnie,Tonnie,Fannie Wortham.Tonnie was married to my Grandfather Luther Smithson.They were parents of my Mother Lucille,she beig one of ten children.Would you please send me all of the info you have on the family of Wortham's Thanks Louise

Re: John,Minnie Wortham family

BrendaWilliams723  (View posts) Posted: 1 Nov 2010 7:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
My grandmother was Tonnie Bell Wortham Smithson, my mother was the 6th child of 10 born to Luther D and Tonnie Bell, Linnie Furn Smithson Lattimore, born 11/25/1923. I am trying to locate Tonnie's birth mother and any other information regarding her family
Children of Luther and Tonnie Bell
Cecil, Ruby, Lucille, Raymond, Marie, Furn, Luther Jr (Smithy) Vernon, Clyde, Lois Jean
Brenda W (blwilliams@optilink.us)

Re: John,Minnie Wortham family

BrendaWilliams723  (View posts) Posted: 1 Nov 2010 8:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Louise, are you the daughter of Lucille Smithson Swanger, my mother was her sister, Furn Lattimore
I have been trying to research family with not alot of success.

Re: John,Minnie Wortham family

alouise69  (View posts) Posted: 2 Apr 2011 8:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
yes I'm the daughter of Lillian Lucille Smithson Swanger.as you know there was 10 children born to Luther Akers Smithson & Tonnie(Tawnie,Fannie)Bell(,Belle)Wortham Smithson. If I can help you let know.

Re: John,Minnie Wortham family

SincerelyCaybee  (View posts) Posted: 28 Oct 2011 6:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Akers
Was Luther's Middle name "Emmett" by any chance? im looking for my great Grandfather whos name was Luther Akers and i keep looking for records and Hes one of the only people to come up when i put in all of the information that i have.
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