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Kirmil/Kirmel/Kirmilas/ family Lithuanian origin

amberladylt  (View posts) Posted: 2 Apr 2010 10:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 4 Apr 2010 4:52PM GMT
Surnames: Kirmilas, Kirmelas, Kirmelevizc, Kirmil, Kirmel
All these surnames are related to the Lithuanian surname Kirmilas. As Lithuanian surname endings show both gender and marital status, we have the ending -as (masculin) -iene for a married woman, - aite for a maiden name. Some people changed the "Kirmil" spelling to "Kirmel" or "Kirmelevizc (ch)", no doubt, there are more variations of this surname...
According to my Kirmil family research,the ancestors of this family lived in Ziezmariai Parish, Strevininkai (Stravniki was used in immmigration records), Lithuania. The location of the village is 3 miles from the highway Vilnius -Kaunas.
Lots of descendants of the family still live in different parts of the world: the USA,Italy, Germany,the UK, Russia, Argentina, Brazil, Lithuania.
Everybody related to the Kirmil/Kirmel family can meet other people who have the same ancestors,share family history information, old photos, stories, memories, etc. For that reason you can leave messages here or contact me on Facebook where you can meet lots of people who are distantly related to various branches of the family.
The Kirmil family descendants from CT,MA, NH,MO,NY etc. also from Argentina,Brazil are invited to join us.

Aldona Kavaliauskiene
amberladylt@hotmail.com



Re: Kirmil/Kirmel/Kirmilas/ family Lithuanian origin

McArthur89  (View posts) Posted: 14 Apr 2012 3:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, my great grandmothers name was Sophia Kirmelevich born in Lithuania April 20, 1878 to a John Kirmelevich and Pauline Jonulevich, she immigrated to Boston, MA abt 1911, she married a Stratton Shisko. Would love to find more information about her and her family.

Re: Kirmil/Kirmel/Kirmilas/ family Lithuanian origin

Aldona Kavaliauskiene  (View posts) Posted: 23 Apr 2012 11:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have a Sophia Kirmelewich in my research as Vincent Kirmelewich's wife.I don't know much about this family, but they're somehow related to my grandmother, as Vincent's wife Sophia (Zofia), my grandma Anastazija Kirmil Kondratawich and her sister-in-law Michalina Kirmil - all these women with their kids and also Eva Kirmelevichiute (going to her brother Wincent too)are found on the same ship manifest of June 19, 1913.It's quite possible Wincent Kirmelevich had one more sister - Sophia.
I've found dozens of people who're related to thesame Kirmilas Lithuanian family whose ancestors lived in Strevinikai Village, Ziezmariai Parish.Some of them used a polonized spelling of their family name - Kirmelevicius (Kirmelevich/ Kirmelewicz in ship manifests.
To my knowledge, Wincent used Kirmelevicius spelling all his life and only other generations of his family shortened it to Kirmelevich or Kirmelewicz.That's what I was told by Wincent's great great grandson Nick whom I met online.

How did you find Vincent as Sophia's brother? It's interesting because I can see you've already included him in your family tree on mundia.com I met a family online who's related to him and I even got a photo of Vincentas door plate.I can share a few things so you could add to your family tree there.Please, stay in touch.
Aldona

Re: Kirmil/Kirmel/Kirmilas/ family Lithuanian origin

McArthur89  (View posts) Posted: 24 Apr 2012 2:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi! I have to admit I'm not %100 sure that Vincent is my Sophia's brother. I'm looking for any documents that has his parents names. I found Sophia's marriage record and death record and it lists her parents names. I also have a Leon who is def her brother as the same names are on his marriage record. I'm assuming that Vincent is somehow related to Sophia and Leon. I found Leon and Vincent living together in the 1910 census, from what I understand family stayed with family back then. It looks like they were both working on a farm in Brookline. Do you know or know of anyone that knows Vincents parents names? Any information you have on this family would be appreciated, I know so little.

Thanks, Deb

Re: Kirmil/Kirmel/Kirmilas/ family Lithuanian origin

Aldona Kavaliauskiene  (View posts) Posted: 24 Apr 2012 5:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Deb,
Good news! I've finally found Vincent's arrival on June 03, 1909!I had been looking for it for years until I tried just the syllable "Kir" in my search today and I finally have it! They used "w" instead of "m" and that spelling mistake was enough to make the search impossible.
When you try to find this ship manifest, use this spelling of the name - "Vicenty Kirwilewitz".You'll find it imformative.

Vincent is going to his friend Leo Orlinsky, Newton Str, Brooklyn, Mass. The closest relative in Lithuania is his wife Sophie Kirmilewitz from Mosselishke.It's exactly the same place name you can find in his brother Leon's arrival.
Leon arrived April 27, 1910 at the age of 22.He's going from father Jonas in Mosalisk, Wilno. Going to his brother W in Brooklin, MA on Newton Str.Exactly the same street as in Vincent's arrival! Leon Kermslewicz (the spelling they use in ship manifest if you want to read it)Will write more a bit later today and will send you the ship manifest which you'll find the most imfortave.
Btw, Nick - Vincentas' great great grandson is going to join us in this discussion

Re: Kirmil/Kirmel/Kirmilas/ family Lithuanian origin

nkermele  (View posts) Posted: 24 Apr 2012 7:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hey,
So my dad John Kermelewicz (45) says he has Vincents (Vincentas) birth certificate which was his great grandfather his wifes name was Sophia. That is the owner of that name plate I sent you a picture of(WM Kirmeliavicius). It was off of a house he built in Chelsea, MA a small city right outside of Boston, MA. My father grew up in that house with his 2 brothers, 2 sisters and mother and father (Joseph and Katherine Kermelewicz) and his grand parents lived upstairs (Joseph Charles and Primrose Kermelewicz) I will try to get copies of Vincents birth certificate and anything else I can find..

Re: Kirmil/Kirmel/Kirmilas/ family Lithuanian origin

Aldona Kavaliauskiene  (View posts) Posted: 24 Apr 2012 8:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
That's great Nick!Bring everything you can find and I think you don't mind if I keep asking you questions.Everything you've just written is very useful. Could you please bring here more names. Let's start with Vincentas kids names.
I have two girls born in Lithuania whom Sophia Kirmelawiczene (this is the spelling from ship manifest)is taking to America in 1913.Together with her dauhters Jadviga (6) and Karolina (3)Sophia is going to join her husband Vincentas Kermelewiczius.Vincentas' sister Yeva (20)is also in the ship manifest.Her father is Jonas Kermelewiczius from Merkenys (I think it's Merkine Parish close to Masaliskes village that is mentioned in Leon Kermelewicz's ship manifest)
My grandma Anastazija Kirmil Kondratovich with her son Stanislav (3) and her sister-in-law Michalena Kermil (Boleslavas wife) with 2 kids - Anna Kermel and Boleslavas Kermel - are all going together to join their husbands.
It means they were close relatives with Vincentas family.
I have this ship manifest with all these women in passenger list.

Re: Kirmil/Kirmel/Kirmilas/ family Lithuanian origin

nkermele  (View posts) Posted: 24 Apr 2012 8:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Well we just moved my grandmother (Dads mom) back from Florida so next time I see her I will ask her if she knows. But I believe there were three boys along with the 2 daughters. The only name I know is my Great Grandfather Joseph Charles Kermelewicz.. I will have to get the names of the others.. Joseph was the one to change the spelling to Kermelewicz.. I am pretty sure we have his birth certificates as well.

Re: Kirmil/Kirmel/Kirmilas/ family Lithuanian origin

McArthur89  (View posts) Posted: 24 Apr 2012 8:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Wow, I'm trying to wrap my head around all this info...I really hope that this Vincent is my Sophies brother.
The house that you mention...was it 243 Webster Ave Chelsea? I just came across the 1920 census for that address it lists a William Thermolovetch from Lithuania with his wife Sophie, a daughter Ledwiga b 1906, Charles b 1909, John b 1915 and Joseph b 1919.I would guess that this is them they sure mangled the names back then. Sophie Kirmelevich is my great grandmother her parents were John/Jonas Kirmelevic and her mom was Paulina Jonulevic. I did find Vicenty on the Ellis Island web site on the ship Coronia going to his friends in Brookline, MA.
Do either of you live in Massachusetts??

Re: Kirmil/Kirmel/Kirmilas/ family Lithuanian origin

Aldona Kavaliauskiene  (View posts) Posted: 24 Apr 2012 8:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks Nick. Any help is appreciated.What we have for today is-Vincentas Kirmeliavicius, Yeva Kermelewicziute, Leon Kermelewicz and Sophia Kermelewicz Shisko came from the same family and their father's name was John Kermelewicz.They all (not sure about Sophia Shisko) mention the same place name (Merkiny, Mosselisky, Mosalisk, Mosaliske etc..different spellings of the same place name and Merkine being the name of the Parish) I wonder if this place name is in Sophia Kermelewicz Shisko birth or death certificate?
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