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Nathaniel KING

Nathaniel KING

Cindy Henslee Stamps (View posts)
Posted: 912254400000
Classification: Query
Surnames: FINDLEY, FINLEY, KING, WEBB
Seeking information on Nathaniel KING, listed as an original land holder in Marion Co., and his sister, Olivia Wakefield Webb KING, married to John B. FINDLEY or FINLEY. They are in Marion Co. in Hickory Hill in 1850 (Cass) and 1860 Censuses. Olivia died 1869 and is buried in Webb Cemetery near Charles WEBB and wife Mary Ann BRITTAN. What is relationship with these WEBBs? They are neighbors on 1860 Census. John B. FINLEY still there in 1870 but later died in Camp Co. Any help appreciated. (06/11/1998)

Olivia Wakefield King

Posted: 955713600000
Classification: Query
Edited: 1043789395000
Surnames: King, Sayles, Lawrence, Finley
MARION COUNTY ,TEXAS
Looking for information on Olivia Wakefield King Sayles Lawrence Finley.
My great great grandfather, David Wesley Lawrence, was her second husband. They lived in Tennessee. She returned to live with her father in Cass(Marion)Co. between 1842 and 1850. She brought her children including Edwin Lysidus Lawrence(my great grandfather) and Corilla Francis Sayles( who later married Major W.E.Penn a well known Baptist revivalist)with her from Tenn. She later married Judge John Finley and had three children with him,John King,Martha, and Palmyra Olivia. Our family research does not indicate she was married to a Webb although she is buried in the Charles Webb family cemetery just NW of Jefferson,TX. She was born 2-22-1805 and died 3-20-1869. There is some confusion about her place of birth,N.Carolina or S.Carolina.
I am particularly interested in learning who her parents were and where she was born.





Re: Olivia Wakefield King

John M. Penn (View posts)
Posted: 996711638000
Surnames: King, Sayle, Penn
I have it that she was born in Orange Co. NC probably Chappel Hill, moving as an infant to TN where the rest of her sblings were born. Her first marriage was to Dr. Samuel G. Sayle (not Sayles) in 1826 and is said to have had six issue by him before his death about 1835. Three of these I can account for. First born was Judge Claudius Galon Sayle 1826-aft. 1882, second was Capt. Samuel Algernon Sayle 1831-1862, and third was Corilla Frances Sayle 1834-1917. Claudius was a doctor and attorney and an influential person in Fresno Co. CA. Samuel left TX to commanded company 'I' of the 27th TN CSA infantry under whom my ggrandfather John J. Penn (Corilla's brother in law through Maj. W.E.Penn) served. S. A. Sayle was killed early in the war at Shilo.

I don't believe Olivia's dau. Corilla came to TX when she moved. She is found in a boarding school run by a Dr. West till adulthood in Lexington, Henderson Co. TN, and I suspect S.A. Sayle was with her, and would be a reason for his return to TN at the start of the civil war. I do believe Olivia is the reason the surviving Penn's; W.E.Penn, John J. Penn, sisters Mary E. Penn and Sallie Penn moved to Jefferson, TX at the close of the war.
Hope this helps.

Re: Olivia Wakefield King

Cindy Henslee Stamps (View posts)
Posted: 996785886000
Hi Sherry,
I think we've corresponded before. The other 3 children of Olivia's first marriage were Argyle, Acadius Saul, and Mary Celista. I know nothing about them. I'm still trying to learn as much about the Kings as I can. I think I've found more on Olivia than any of the others, except for O.H. Wish I could find Julia Willis, the first named in their father's will; I wonder if she came to TX with the rest of the family. They are a very interesting family.

Re: Olivia Wakefield King

Posted: 996952106000
Edited: 1043789395000
Thank you for the info on Olivia W. King. I had not been able to find anything about Dr. Sayle, maybe because I had the name misspelled.
Per my family history recorded by Palmyra Finley, who was a daughter of Olivia and her third husband, J.B. Finley, the 6 Sayle children remained in Tenn. after their father's death because their state appointed guardian( Esq. Stamford) would not allow their property to be taken out of Tenn.
At the end of the Civil War, Corilla Sayle Penn believed that Maj. Penn had died and returned to Jefferson,TX to live with her mother. When Maj. Penn was released from prison camp in KY some time after the war had ended he joined Corilla in Jefferson,TX.
I have quite a lot more info on Corilla and Maj. W.E. Penn, if you are interested let me know.
Thanks again for letting me know about the older Sayle children. I do not know anything more about the other Sayle children either .

Re: Olivia Wakefield King

Posted: 996953221000
Edited: 1043789395000
Good to hear from you again Cindy.
Thank you for confirming the names of the remaining Sayle children. I had all their names, but did not know anything about them.
I wish I could help you out on Julia Willis. I don't know anything about her.
I am still trying to link David Wesley Lawrence to a proposed lineage that goes back to Johannes Lorentz and Anna Margaretta Heilliger.

Re: Olivia Wakefield King

John M. Penn (View posts)
Posted: 996966401000
Surnames: Sayle, Penn
Sherry,
Your info on Corrilla Sayle and the reason for her move to TX is new to me. I have it that Evander Penn went to Jefferson in January 1866. Any additional info you have on them I'd love to know. I don't know if this forum reveals emails but mine is: res07i6x@verizon.net. I've got quite a bit on Evander Penn but there's much to learn. I've got a few poor quality photos of Corrilla also.

Re: Olivia Wakefield King

Cindy Henslee Stamps (View posts)
Posted: 996974178000
Sherry, I would love to have your information on Corilla. Where are these guardianship records? Since Henderson Co. is a burned county, I've had a hard time finding them; or are they in Carroll Co? Haven't found anything there either. E mail me at cstamps@swbell.net. I had found Corilla and husband in 1870 Marion Co. Census. I don't know if I told you or not but I found Olivia's grave several years ago. It's really weird because the Webbs are my husbands gr gr grandparents, and she's buried with them in their family cemetery. They were next door neighbors.
Cindy

Re: Olivia Wakefield King

John M. Penn (View posts)
Posted: 996994176000
Surnames: Penn, Sayle
Sherry & Cindy
As the surviving patriarch of this branch of the Penn line any information is invaluable. From W.E.Penn’s parents George D. Penn and Telitha Patterson Clay there are no known Penn surname descendants other than those from his brother John J. Penn and Harriet Dunson and their only issue; John Clay Penn 1868-1935. His father died when he was an infant and was raised in combination between his mother, a very much older half brother, and a servant (aunt Jane) who I believe was a descendant of Corrilla’s ‘property’. Aunt Jane also helped raise my grandfather John Clay Penn 1898-1992 and his brother. My grandfather’s accounts (now transcribed to CD) do not mention Corrilla or his Aunt Mary E. (Penn) Taylor living in Eureka Springs, only aunt Sallie….a sister to W.E. Penn and his grandfather. Another note, my great grandfather, John Clay Penn I (there’s three) spent much of his youth traveling with W. E. Penn and company beginning what would now be considered modern day evangelism. When he left the KATY railroad due to injury, he opened movie theaters in McKinney TX, around 1908, one of which was outdoors in the summer, where he applied vaudevillian techniques learned from Evander in his youth with my grandfather doing many of the skits.
As an entertainer in the music business for some time now, it’s fun to look back and realize where some of my influence came from.

My research on my Penn line began around 1986 when I made a trip to east Texas and Arkansas for more information. When in Eureka Springs I found a museum where they had a copy of W.E. Penn’s autobiography, and it was there I copied the information stating his/my ancestry, which I’ve later found to be fairly accurate. In the last several years I’ve gained much information from Marion Co. Texas and Henderson Co. Tennessee and have been able to assume some possibilities as to the fate of this family after the civil war till 1870.

Re: Olivia Wakefield King

Cindy Henslee Stamps (View posts)
Posted: 997028176000
Hi John,
Glad to meet you. Sherry and I have corresponded before. I have lots of data on Olivia's family. I come from Olivia's baby sister, Sophronia. I have been able to find a lot of information on Olivia's oldest child. He apparently was a doctor and then became a lawyer after he went to California. He was district attorney in Fresno and evidently quite prominent. He married 3 times but had no children of his own; he adopted a son of his 3rd wife. I'm really curious as to why Olivia gave so many of her children these Latin names.
Cindy Stamps
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