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How is Alfred Nelson (1803-1882) related to Yorktown Nelsons?

KTraynham  (View posts) Posted: 14 Jun 2003 7:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Fellow researchers:
Can anyone help with connecting Alfred Nelson, husband of Mary Jenkins of Houston Co., GA to "Scotch" Tom Nelson?
Alfred and Mary Nelson were early land lottery recipients in Georgia - they had a daughter named Margaret. She married Newton Carlton Greer and her obituary said she was the great niece of Thomas Nelson, gov. of Yorktown.
So her grandfather was one of "Scotch" Tom's sons, Nathaniel, Hugh, Robert, or William, right?

Does anyone have genealogies on these brothers that would show a Margaret born August 30, 1837? (in Georgia.)

Here's her obituary for anyone who cares:

"Mrs. N. C. Greer died at the home of her son, John Wesley Greer, in Moultrie, Monday morning at 5:30 o'clock.

Mrs. Greer had been in feeble health for a long time, and during the past few weeks the members of her family had been called to her bedside, as the end was apparently near.

She was stricken with paralysis two weeks ago and from the beginning there was no hope of her recovery, as this was her third stroke. She rallied several times and was conscious at intervals, but gradually lost strength until the end.

Mrs. Greer was, before her marriage, Margaret Nelson, the daughter of Alfred Nelson, and Mary (Jenkins) his wife of Houston County, and the grand-niece of Thomas Nelson, first Governor of Virginia after the Revolution, and a cousin of Thomas Nelson Page, the author, and ambassador to the Court of St. James.

She is survived by her husband, to whom she was married nearly 63 years ago. She was the mother of fourteen children, six of whom are living; Edward L. Greer, of Lake City, Florida, John W. Greer, of Moultrie, Mrs. William E. Futch of Los Angeles, Cal., Mrs. Junius W. Prince of Fuquay Springs, N. Carolina, Mrs. Herry H. Yancy of Point Tauepa Florida, Lovic P. Greer of Valdosta. She was 78 years of age.

She was in truth a mother in Israel, a woman whose bright Christian Character was an example and an inspiration to those with whom she came in daily contact.

We mourn her -- not as one who is lost to us, but as a faithful and loving follower of Christ Jesus, who has gone to her reward.

Her body will be brought to Tifton for burial, and will be carried directly to the cemetery, where several members of the family are buried.

Friends of the family are notified through the Gazette that they may attend the burial ceremony to pay the last tribute of respect to one whom all knew only to love and esteem."

Many thanks for any help at all.


Re: How is Alfred Nelson (1803-1882) related to Yorktown Nelsons?

Robin Nelson  (View posts) Posted: 17 Sep 2003 7:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
Just happened to come across your query on descendency from Yorktown Nelsons. Don't have any good info, but note you are confusing "Scotch" Tom (who arrived abt. 1700 and founded Yorktown) with his grandnephew Thomas Nelson Jr., 1st governor after the Revolution.

Regards,

Re: How is Alfred Nelson (1803-1882) related to Yorktown Nelsons?

KatheTraynham  (View posts) Posted: 18 Sep 2003 3:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Robin, thanks for responding.
Yes, well I should have made it clear that I don't think they are the same people. I am simply looking at both of their families as the most documented of their lines (that I can find so far) because I am told that my husband's relative, (Alfred b. 1803-1882) is related to Thomas Jr. (Gov.) which would also make him related to "Scotch" Tom. The issue is that I can't seem to determine where Alfred fits in the family. I have not found any sources for Thomas (Gov) and all his siblings, nor for Tom and all his siblings, so I'm hoping there is some info out there on subsidiary lines? Many thanks for any help.

Re: Yorktown Nelsons

CathySTRALEY99  (View posts) Posted: 18 Sep 2003 4:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have a booklet called "Nelson Family History" by J. Montgomery Seaver, 1929, of the American Historical Genealogical Society that includes the following on your Thomas Nelson (Gov).

Thomas Nelson was born in 1738 in Yorktown VA as a son of William Nelson. As a signer of the Declaration of Independence, Thomas was also Governor of Virginia in 1781 and participated in the Siege of Yorktown. He died 4 Jan 1789 in Hanover Co VA.

Francis Nelson was a son of Governor Thomas Nelson of Yorktown. Francis (of Mt. Air, Hanover Co VA), married Lucy Page in 1792. Lucy was d/o Jane Byrd & John Page of North End VA. Francis & Lucy Nelson had these children: Thomas, Mann, Susan, Lucy, Jane, Judith, Maria, Sallie.

Judith Nelson was a daughter of Governor Thomas Nelson of Yorktown. Judith married in 1804 to Captain Thomas Nelson of Oakland VA. Captain Nelson was s/o Judith Page Nelson(Lucy Page's sister), who had married Colonel Hugh Nelson of Yorktown. Colonel Hugh was s/o William Nelson who was President of VA Council. Judith Nelson & Captain Thomas Nelson of Oakland (d 1859) had these children: Hugh T., Mary C., Colonel Wm, Maria, Judith, Lucy, Rev. Robert.

Governor Nelson may have had more children than these two, but this record does not give his wife's name or a full listing of children. There is additional info on Gov. Nelson's military career, etc. I hope this helps.

Re: How is Alfred Nelson (1803-1882) related to Yorktown Nelsons?

CathySTRALEY99  (View posts) Posted: 18 Sep 2003 7:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have info on an Alfred Nelson, but he was born later (1892) in Arkansas. His full name was Albert Perry Nelson and his parents were Harvey Nelson & Jenny Lynn. They apparently were in Missouri sometime and there's some talk about TX. This is not my line and that's all the info I have.

Re: How is Alfred Nelson (1803-1882) related to Yorktown Nelsons?

Kathy Cox  (View posts) Posted: 18 Sep 2003 7:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
There was an Alfred Nelson (b circa 1803) that was a son of Major John Nelson (b abt 1762 NC, d 1822 Orange County NC). This John Nelson is from the Governor Thomas Nelson line, so it's probably the Alfred that you seek.

Major John Nelson served in the Rev. War from Hillsboro District, Orange County, North Carolina, 1776-1782 (early in war as a Captain). His wife was Jennet Tate, and his parents were Virginia Governor Thomas Nelson (b 1738 Yorktown VA) & Lucy Grymes. So here's Albert's link to the Yorktown Nelsons!

Other siblings of Albert's were:
...Margaret b 1812 NC, m John Hart (went to Clay Co MO).
...John Harvey Nelson (physician) b abt 1790, m Barbary McCain (went to Clark Co AR).
...William
...David
...James
...Samuel
...Isabella




Re: How is Alfred Nelson (1803-1882) related to Yorktown Nelsons?

KatherineTraynham  (View posts) Posted: 22 Sep 2003 1:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Nelson, Greer, Traynham, Holbrook, Bowers, Talmadge, Bowman, Gamber
Kathy, thank you so much! This sounds like it could be our Alfred! Can you point me to either published or county sources for this Alfred? My husband's family is very interested in this Nelson line, as it is the only one not traced in his paternal line. I really appreciate the information - you are the first person who has been able to point me toward a family where dates fit and also fit the family tradition that Alfred was of that family. Many, many thanks!
Katherine

Re: How is Alfred Nelson (1803-1882) related to Yorktown Nelsons?

kim nelson  (View posts) Posted: 13 Nov 2003 10:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
I have some different info on the Alfred Nelson that was the son of John Nelson and Jennet Tate. Alfred was b.May 31, 1806 Orange County NC, d.July 10,1872 Boone County,
Ark. He married Nancy Gill.
My info has John's father as David Nelson who married Isabella Craig. You might want to look at David Irving Craigs family journal written 1899. I can get you the link,but you can do a general search and find it.
Alfred is my 4th ggrandfather. I hope this helps. Kim

Re: How is Alfred Nelson (1803-1882) related to Yorktown Nelsons?

Nan Gorton  (View posts) Posted: 24 Nov 2003 11:09PM GMT

Re: Correction on parents of John Nelson

CathySTRALEY99  (View posts) Posted: 24 Nov 2003 11:51PM GMT
Classification: Query
Nan: I realized later that I gave this John Nelson's parents incorrectly as VA Gov. Thomas Nelson!! I did advice the original query person directly, but I failed to post that correction here. His parents were in fact David Nelson and Isabel Craig.

I inherited these files from other family researchers, and I'm realizinig that sometimes there are papers in those files that are in error, when I'd presumed them well researched. This was one of those times. So sorry about the error.

John Nelson and Jennet Tate did in fact have a son Alfred Nelson. If you do a Google search on "Alfred Nelson" + "John Nelson" + "Orange County NC" (or other such searches), you get several interesting accounts about Alfred. There's a journal online written by Reverend David I. Craig in 1899 that remembers Alfred and many of the others in this family and relates info about them. He says his "Uncle Alfred" went west. There's much there too about John Nelson and his siblings and relatives.

(Nan, also please don't forget that you promised to send me those photos of Sid McLelland & Bridges Howard in exchange for papers that I've already sent along to you. Thanks!!)

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