Wondering if anyone has located the ship and/or passenger list our ancestor Urbain Tessier sailed to Canada on.

Hello,
No. However if you are fortunate enough to have it fall into
your lap, I would love a copy. I will do the same as well.
I'm Barbara A. Tacy. My father is Peter Andrew Tacy of
Rochester, New York. I grew up with the stories of Urbain's
pirate ships and adventures etc. My father and mother went
to Montreal years ago and brought back a photo of my dad
proudly standing under the "Plaque" etc.etc. I have to re-connect with a friend at the archives in Montreal who back
in 1985 had hand delivered to my home, documents of
our descendents. History and personal notes. I then passed
it on to one of my (stupid) brothers who has long since mis
placed them. They were all in old french so I had needed to
locate an interpreter at that time to translate. I will keep you
updated on my progress.
Look forward to hearing from you and thank you for your
time.

Sincerely,

Barbara Ann Tacy

I too would be interested in the name of the Ship, and also these stories you talk about.......wow! I only found out a few years ago of my connection to him, and am still finding little things here and there. Our family line became kind of distant with the passing of my gggrandfather.....

I decend from Ignatus Tessier, and our dit name is Santure....spelled at one time Santour.......so if anyone has a clue where that name came from that would help too!

Paulette

I think we'd all be very interested - can you post the info to the list? (alternately, I just love a copy!) thanks!

Urbaine TESSIER dit LAVIGNE was the immigrant ancestor of this line, son of Arthur TESSIER and Jeanne MEME. Urbaine was born about 1625 at Notre-Dame, v. Chasteaux (auj. Chateau-la-Valliere), ev. Angers, Anjou (ar. Tours, Indre-et-Loire) and m. Marie ARCHAMBAULT 1648-09-28, Québec. This marriage was the first mention of him in documents in QC. His occupation is listed as "Scieur de long". Their son, Ignace (baptised 1677-03-11, Montreal) retained the TESSIER dit LAVIGNE surname, as did all of his brothers. All of the sons of Ignace kept the TESSIER dit LAVIGNE surname. The names SANTURE and SANTOUR do not ever appear in the records of Quebec before 1799.

For more information on Urbain TESSIER dit LAVIGNE, including his capture by Iroquois natives, please go to the TESSIER Association website at http://www.genealogie.org/famille/tessier/ENGLISH/UrbainTess... . There is also information there about the plaque mentioned in a previous message. However, pirates don't appear in the story at all.

Regards,
Sharyn

I know the name doesn't appear, and since dit names are so unusual, and yet molded per each family branch, was wondering if anyone had any idea of how my branch got that name. It was pondered that there was once a and still is a St. Our's in France and New France, not sure right now if it still exsists in Canada, that maybe they lived near there. The first time that I saw the connection and the biggest breakthrough of the Santure line was a marriage recorded recorded in Monroe Co., Michigan at a Catholic church for a Catharine Tessier dit Santure who married a Savoy (name might be wrong) She was a neice to my ggggrandfather. Thus lead me to the Tessier line, which wound up being very easy to trace out of Detroit Michigan.

The line in which I decend is as follows: According to the book The French Families of the Detroit River Region:

Urbanus Tessier, son of Peter (Artus) and Jane Meine Tessier, wife Mary Archambault. Their son, Ignatius Tessier, born March 11, 1677, married to Margaret Luissier. Son of Ignatius and Margaret Luissier Tessier, Peter,.born June 29, 1708, who married twice, once to Charlotte Fortier, then to Geneveva Parenteau. Son of Peter and Geneveva Parenteau Tessier, Peter born Dec 11, 1747 married to Barbara Magdelene McDonald. Son of Peter and Barbara McDonald Tessier, Dominice born April 1794 in Detroit who married Teresa Chauvin at St. Antoine in Monroe Michigan. Son of Dominic and Teresa Chauvin Tessier, Francis Xaviar born June 10, 1829 at St. Antroine, married Adelaide Eulalie Beauregard. Son of Francis Xaviar and Adelaide (Nellie or Addie) Philip O. Tessier dit Santure, married Isabella Raymond. Son of Philip and Isabella, Leo who married Margaret McCarter. Son of Leo and Margaret, Vernie Fredrick, who married Ada Turner. Son of Vernie and Ada, Paul who married Pat, who are my parents.

By 1850 in Michigan, the census takers were begging the french families to please shorten their names. They had originally been using the Tessier name on census records, but it is generally known that the census taker asked them to choose one, the family name or the dit name. Around this time, Francis Xavier, and his brother Hilary who also resided in Monroe, chose to use the name Santure. I have spent the better part of 10 years rounding up all of the Santure's that I can find. And there are not many. At some point around the generations of Leo Santure, the families kind of fell apart. There were no communications between them. Although they lived very very close to each other. Our generations on down were told that "we are not related to any others", which is not true. I have been able to prove this with marriages, census, deaths etc.

We may never know why this particular branch of the family decided to use the dit name of Santure, or Santour which was once recorded on a census, however, they do exist, and do decend from Urbanus Tessier.

Paulette Carpenter

Yes, Saint-Ours does exist in Quebec. It is now a city in the Le Bas-Richelieu region of Monteregie. There has been a parish there since 1681 called L'Immaculee-Conception. The only older church near there is Saint-Pierre (est. 1675) at Sorel. http://geonames2.nrcan.gc.ca/cgi-bin/v8/sima_unique_v8?engli... will show you a map of the area.

As for dit names, all I said was that it didn't occur in Quebec before 1799. It could easily have begun in Detroit, which was part of Quebec, but the records were not kept in Quebec after the diocese became non-Canadian territory.

In your listing of the names you are using the Latin version of the early names which the priests translated from French into Latin. Most genealogical records don't use the translated names, but you will find them on the original records of the church in Latin, depending on the priest.

In French the lineage you've given would read:

Arthur TESSIER m. Jeanne MEME
Urbaine TESSIER dit LAVIGNE m. Marie ARCHAMBAULT at Quebec City
Ignace TESSIER dit LAVIGNE m. Marguerite Marie LUSSIER at Repentigny
Pierre TESSIER dit LAVIGNE m. (1) Marie Charlotte FORCIER dit FORTIER at Yamaska (2) Marie Genevieve PARENTEAU at Yamaska
Pierre TESSIER dit LAVIGNE m. Barbe ----- (surname not given at PRDH; marriage took place at Ste-Anne-de-Detroit)

Yamaska is also in Le Bas-Richelieu, near Saint-Ours. So, Pierre would have emigrated to Ste-Anne-de-Detroit from that area prior to his marriage on Oct 31 1790. That all fits with not finding the dit name until after leaving Quebec. Pierre's brother, Jacques, retained the TESSIER dit LAVIGNE surname (more often just TESSIER in the certificates) until at least April 1 1788 when his son was baptised at Montreal.

So, from this little bit of evidence, it would seem that Pierre's descendants could very easily have adopted the Santour surname when they lived at Detroit. If he was the only son who went there, that would account for the scarcity of persons who retained that surname.

Regards,
Sharyn

I appreciate your location information, that is a big help. I have not had an opportunity to try to find any other of Dominic Tessier's decendants in order to see if they chose a dit name of stayed with the family name. The earliest I find any information on Land in Michigan is 1812, Pierre Tessier had land here. Had to of course been Dominic's father.

What I included for the names was out of the book I mentioned. That is how Mr. Dennison wrote it. I have seen the names different here and there, and have even traced one Santure, a son of Hilary's back to Montreal. He went back to Canada and married and died there. His name was Pierre as well, and in the census records here he is Peter. His death is recorded is Peter though in Montreal.

I will always be curious about my surname, and where it came from, so if you have any other clues, or if anyone else does, I would appreciate anything.

Thank you, and have a great weekend,
Paulette

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