I'd like to document the early Frith families in Virginia as completely & accurately as possible. We have a bunch of names & events, but it's not always clear how the names connect with each other. We need better info than that provided in some online family trees which say, for example, that Thomas Joseph Frith born 1765 was son of Joseph Frith who died 1740 and was born 1670. This misinformation is, let's just say, not convincing and not helpful.

If you have documentation regarding early Friths in VA (born before ~1800), please let me know (you can reply to me here or offline) and I will put it online in a form that will be useful to everyone interested. I’m looking for wills, deeds, witnessings, christenings, Bible records, gravestone inscriptions, anything. If you even just have families listed who aren't well documented, but that you still have good reason to believe are accurate, please let me know.

(And really, I'm looking for this info for all Friths everywhere, not just VA. I eventually want to repeat this process for every region that has a population of Friths. See
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~thriftzzfr... )

Here are some of the early Frith families in VA that I know about, and would like help connecting together. There are probably others I don't know about. If you can add to what I have, or know of other families in VA before ~1800, please mention them in a followup post or offline.
[open the link, then click on the names to see more detail about each]

Robert Frith (d: BEF. 31 MAY 1658) & Elizabeth; Joseph & Anne
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&...

Joseph Frith (b: BEF. 1695) & Anne, widow of Robert Goodwin
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&...

Joseph Frith & Anne; Crosia (b: Bef. 1705), John F, & Rebecca
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&...
John Frith (b: BEF. 1695 d: AFT. 1754) & Anne; John Rebecca & Mary; William Sally Archer Drury & Henry
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&...

John Frith (b: ABT. 1710 d: AFT. 1754) & Rebecca Rudd; Thomas, John & Joseph
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&...

Harbert Frith (b: ABT. 1778 d: 25 DEC 1843) & Martha; Jane & John; William Harbert, Charles Robert, & Martha Francis
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&...

Capt. Tudor Frith (b: BEF. 1780 d: BEF. 1840) & Mary; Julia Ann
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&...

Nathaniel Frith (b: Abt. 1598) & Elizabeth; Nathaniel & Joane; Nathaniel & William [my line]
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&...

One of the clearest ways to prove (or disprove) whether different families are actually connected is by DNA testing. There are MANY examples of DNA results showing an accepted family tree to be incorrect, and this leads to finding the CORRECT ancestors. There are even more instances where family trees built on paper documentation were confirmed by DNA testing. I administer a project coordinating this effort for Frith, Firth & Thrift surnames. If you are (or know of) a Frith male who would consider a DNA test, please contact me. See
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Thrift-Frith-Firth/


I see that the following records exist but I don't have the details; can anyone provide the actual details? Can you provide transcriptions or scans of the wills, etc? Can you tell me which family each of these items belongs to?

Joseph Frith held land in York Co 1704 -was this 50 acres, or 50 pounds rent? Which family is he connected to (convincingly)?

After 1715 Joseph Frith married Anne who was previously married (before 1696) to Robert Goodwin. see
http://ftp.rootsweb.ancestry.com/pub/usgenweb/va/schools/wmm...
Anne had a son, Martin Goodwin, who mentioned Anne in his will. What did he say?
Can anyone establish whether or not this couple were the Joseph & Anne who were parents of Crosia Frith Cobbs and her siblings? It has been suggested (based on the claimed but undocumented birth & marriage dates) that this was a second marriage for both Joseph and Anne, and that Crosia (assuming she was daughter of THIS Joseph & Anne) was daughter from a first marriage of either Joseph or Anne, and was not biological daughter of the two of them. Is there evidence for or against this suggestion?

I think I remember seeing that there was a court case (murder?) involving Joseph Frith (apparently the father of Crosia Frith Cobbs), but I have lost the details. He may have been a witness but I think he was named as a juror.

Did Crosia's brother John F. Frith have descendants?

http://files.usgwarchives.org/va/henrico/wills/wills1655-180...
HENRICO COUNTY INDEX TO WILLS AND ADMINISTRATIONS, 1655-1800 The Library of Virginia Will: Frith, Anne 1740
[This is Crosia's mother. What did the will say?]

http://www.genforum.genealogy.com/cobb/messages/7429.html
Crosia's parents, Joseph and Ann Frith, witnessed the LWT of Robert?s father Ambrose in York County in 1718 (above). In 1742, Robert was the executor of the LWT of Ann Frith, Crosia?s mother, and he was specifically named as her son-in-law in that document.
Reference:
Some Wills from the Burned Counties of Virginia, and Other Wills Not Listed In Virginia Wills and Administrations, 1632 - 1800". William Lindsey Hopkins. Richmond. 1987. Pg 60. Ann Frith, will dated 1740, Henrico County.
Other references to her Will:
"Henrico County Order Book, 1737 - 1746"
"Henrico County Wills, 1737 - 1781"
In April 1740, he (Robert) was named the Executor of the Last Will and Testament of Ann Frith, of Dale Parish in Henrico County. In this Will, he was specifically identified as the son-in-law of Ann Frith. It is noted from the Will that he also received the most substantial part of Ann's estate, despite the fact that a son John F. Frith was also named. John received 200 acres on the south side of the "second branch" including the plantation where he lived, along with the family bible. A daughter Rebecca Eddings received one shilling. Robert Cobbs received 200 acres on the north side of the "second branch" in addition to the plantation where he lived with all its adjoining lands, and "all the rest of my estate". Witnesses were George Hastenes, Danell Brown, and Mary Cobbs.
#3 ? Robert Cobb signed his LWT in Halifax Co, VA on June 30, 1768. It was proved on January 19, 1769. His wife Crosia was not named, therefore it is assumed she was already deceased. Robert did name five daughters, to wit: Ann Crumphill ... Elizabeth Cobb ... Sarah Cobb ... Mollie Anderson ... and Judith who was apparently already deceased, as Robert referred to her two children.
The daughters that were married were listed under their married name. Therefore, we can deduce that Elizabeth and Sarah were yet unmarried ... in 1768.
[This author has declined to send me transcriptions of these wills, does anyone have them?]

Is there documentation on Friths in the Revolutionary War? ...must be...

http://files.usgwarchives.org/va/chesterfield/wills/wills171...
CHESTERFIELD COUNTY INDEX TO WILLS AND ADMINISTRATIONS, 1712-1812 (partial)
Fryth, John 1781, 1782
Frith, Martha 1786
Frith, Polly 1791
Frith, Drury 1802
Frith, Drury 1809

Does anyone know ancestors of Thomas Joseph Frith (married Ruth A. Goff ) or Thomas Didimus Frith (married Martha Elizabeth Scarborough)

in 1806 Frith, Edward, dwelling, 10 Duke street, Norfolk -what family did he come from?
________________________

The following are some other records I have found that may be useful

Crosia Frith's husband, Robert Cobbs:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cobb/amb/d...
* BIRTH: 1687, York County, Virginia (Bruton Parish)
* IMMIGRATION: ABT 1730, Henrico County, Virginia
* EVENT: Moved: 1748, Lunenburg County, Virginia [4955]
* WILL: 30 Jun 1768, Halifax County, Virginia [4954]
* DEATH: BET Jun 1768 AND 19 Jan 1769, Halifax County, Virginia (Hunting Creek) [4953]
... He is named in his father's Will in which he was bequeathed the home plantation, two slaves, and lots numbers 43-44 in Williamsburg. Robert sold these lots with the buildings on them on December 10, 1725, to John Blair, merchant. Robert's first three children were born in Williamsburg, before moving to Henrico County, about 1730. His son, Oather, was his first child born in Bristol Parish, Henrico County.
...On July 25, 1749, Robert purchased 395 acres of land on the Staunton River, in Lunenburg County, Virginia, from a Robert Williams. This land was bequeathed to Robert's son, Samuel. In 1756, Robert bought 400 more acres in Lunenburg County, on the branches of Hunting Creek and Hunt's Branch. This 400 acres Robert sold to his son, Ambrose, in July 1761. By then, due to political reorganizations, this land was located in Halifax County, Virginia.
It is learned from Carrington's HISTORY OF HALIFAX COUNTY that a Robert Cobbs, Gentleman, was appointed Captain of a Company of Foot Soldiers in 1754, by the Honourable Governor, in the southern district of Lunenburg County. (This was the district that became part of Halifax County, in 1752.)
[4953] This was the interim period between the making of his will and the date it was proved.
[4954] In his Will, Robert named his children Ambrose, Sarah, Ann Crumphill, Elizabeth, Molle, Judith, and several other family members. Witnesses were Lot Martin Dickerson, James Cobbs, and Barbary Cobbs,
[4955] This is evidenced by the fact he was listed that year on the Titheables Roll for Lunenburg County.

http://ftp.rootsweb.ancestry.com/pub/usgenweb/va/schools/wmm...
William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine, Vol. 6, No. 2, Supplement
(Oct., 1897), pp. 1-58
THE GOODWIN FAMILIES IN AMERICA BY JUDGE JOHN S. GOODWIN.
Robert Goodwin (James) was married before 1696 to Anne -----. By occupation he was a planter. They
resided in Hampton parish, York county, Va., and in 1696 Robert was grantee in a deed from Peter Goodwin,
the witnesses being John, Matthew, and Martin. A Robert was mentioned in 1711 as being one of the patrons
of a private school. Anne Goodwin was permitted to keep an ordinary in 1715. A few years later she had
married Joseph Frith, and was devisee of her son Martin, deceased, one of the orphan children of Robert
Goodwin, deceased.

http://www.freeafricanamericans.com/free_Indians.htm
YORK COUNTY
Orders, Wills, Etc. no 14, 1709-1716
p.501, 21 May 1716, Scipio an Indian boy belonging to Joseph Frith adjudged 11 years of age.

http://www.genforum.genealogy.com/cobb/messages/7429.html
Crosia's parents, Joseph and Ann Frith, witnessed the LWT of Robert's father Ambrose in York County in 1718

http://php.pasteur.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Archi...
Jean Pasteur 1719 York County Records Jean Pasteur and Joseph Frith bondsmen for Richard Stewart as guardian of John and James Morris, sons of James Morris, decd. Dec. 21, 1719. York County Records, D. O. W. 15, p. 526.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d... tujunga@flash.net
# Event: HW 1677-37 Witness 4 Mar 1731 Henrico Co. VA
# Note: Page 180. p338, Wit. JOHN FRITH, John Hatchett, to Will of William Willson

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...
# Event: HD 1706-37 Land selling 2 Aug 1731 Henrico Co. VA
# Note: Page 132 p312, JOHN RUD, and AVICE to REBECKAH, wife of JOHN FRITH for 5 shillings land on North side of Middle Sapponi Creek being part of a survey where JOHN RUD Jr hath part of said land, 200 acres. Wit. Powell Cocke, Richard Wood.
# Event: HD 1737-50 Land selling 4 May 1747 Henrico Co. VA
# Note: Page 40 p257, JOHN and REBECKAH to JOHN RUD Jr, for 5 lbs land on North side of Sapponey Creek, being part of a survey whereof said JOHN RUD Jr hath part of 200 acres, including all land on North side of Middle Sapponey Creek.
# Event: CD 1749-56 Land selling 3 Dec 1754 Chesterfield Co. VA
# Note: Page 73 p216, JOHN FRITH to JOSEPH FRITH for 10 lbs, land on South side Andersons Road, joining George Hester and Thomas Eless, 100 acres. JOSEPH shall not sell any of the land during live of his father and mother. Wit REBECKAH FRITH, JOHN FRITH JR, John Ward. Rec. Dec 1754
# Event: Note 1 8 May 1760 Chesterfield Co. VA
# Note: Page 38 p305. She may have remarried to a Daniel Brown. Daniel is asking for his share of slaves along with Rebecca' s brothers. [other researchers say she did NOT marry Brown]

http://linda_walker999.tripod.com/aqwn73.htm
Richard WILSON
Will recorded April 1732.
Inventory 4 Sept 1732; brother George, executor
Abstract from Henrico Wills Addenda p. 338: T
To sons Richard and Francis, all the land I live on, to be equally divided. To daughter Mathew (or could be Martha or Mathews), items..To son George, items...To son William, items...To daughter Sarah, ?,to be paid by my brother George. Rest to be divided among my children. Brother George to be sole executor. Dated 4 March 1731/2 Wit: John Frith, John Hatchett

p. 362 Inventory: Appraised by Peter Rowlett, Essex Worsham, William Chambers Recorded 4 Sept. 1732. Presented by George Wilson From VA Colonial Abstracts, Vol. 21, Henrico Co. - Southside 1736 (Fleet) Henrico County Records Deeds, Wills. 1725-1736 page 554. Account of estate of Rich. Willson, deceased. Submitted by Geo Willson. Payments and receipts all dated 1732. Payments include those to: Mary Hester, Mr. John Nash, Henry Vadin Jr., Fran'c willson, Mr.Secretary Carter, Capt Bowler Cocke, Mr. Robt Cobb, Mark More, WmStiles, Doctr Irby, Jno Willson son of Richd Willson for funeral charges, Essex Worsham, Major Kennon, Franc Man, Wm Dunnafant, Mary Worsham, To a legacy left Sarah Willson L4., John Thrift, Thos Tanner.
Cash received from: Wm Brown, Jno Pucket, Tho Man, Jas More, Mary Easter, Mark More, Wm Toffy, Jno Thrift, Jno Willson, Franc Man, Majr Kennon, Henry Rottenbury, Jno Hammond, Henry Vaden, Geo Willson, George willson son of Richd, Geo Worsham, Francis Patram, RichardStiles, Jno Willson, Seth More, Will Dodson. Presented 1st Monday inJune 1736 by Wm Kennon Gent who informed the Court the account was correct.
[Note John Frith was incorrectly listed as John Thrift.]

http://www.totty-families.org/records/vahenri.html
1736 June Court Account of Estate [Virginia Colonial Abstracts-Henrico County - Southside. 1736] p.554. Account of the estate of Richard WILLSON, deceased. Submitted by Geo. WILLSON. Payments and receipts all date 1732. Payments include those to: Mary HESTER, Mr John NASH, Henry VADIN Jr., Fran'c WILLSON, Mr Mary HESTER, Mr Secretary CARTER, Capt Bowler COCKE, Mr. Robt COBB, Mark MORE, Wm STILES, Doctr IRBY, Jno WILLSON son of Richd WILLSON for funeral charges, Essex WORSHAM, Major KENNON, Franc MAN, Wm DUMNAFANT, Mary WORSHAM, To a legacy left Sarah WILLSON £4., John THRIFT, Thos TANNER. Cash received from Wm BROWN, Jno PUCKET, Tho MAN, Jas MORE, Mary EASTER, Mark MORE, Wm TOFFY(sic)[TOTTY], Jno THRIFT, Jno WILLSON, Franc MAN, Majr KENNON, Henry ROTTENBURY, Jno HAMMOND, Henry VADEN, Geo WILLSON son of Richd, Geo WORSHAM, Francis PATRAM, Richard STILES, Jno WILLSON, Seth MORE, Will DODSON, Presented 1st Monday in June 1736 by Wm KENNON Gent who informed the Court the account was correct.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cobb/amb/d...
It will be recalled that in 1718, Joseph and Ann Frith were witnesses to the Will of Robert's father, in York County. In April 1740, he (Robert, Jr.) was named the Executor of the Last Will and Testament of Ann Frith, of Dale Parish in Henrico County. In this Will, he was specifically identified as the son-in-law of Ann Frith. It is noted from the Will that he also received the most substantial part of Ann's estate, despite the fact that a son John F. Frith was also named. John received 200 acres on the south side of the "second branch" including the plantation where lived, along with the family bible, A daughter Rebecca Ebbings received one shilling. Robert Cobbs received 200 acres on the north side of the "second branch" in addition to the plantation where he lived with all its adjoining lands, and "all the rest of my estate". Witnesses were George Hastenes, Danell Brown, and Mary Cobbs.

http://www.robertstoy.com/database/StoyFamily-o/p12.htm#i469...
John Frith1
John Frith married Rebeccah Rudd, daughter of John Rudd and Avis Whittaker.2
Child of John Frith and Rebeccah Rudd
* Thomas Frith 3
Citations
1. Edwin V & Janet S McKenney Jr (e-mail edjan@starpower.net), "Wilmoth Rudd," e-mail message to RUDD-L message board, 11 Feb 2002, http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/RUDD/2002-02/1013460745. Printout dated 22 Jun 2006.
2. John Rudd will (18 Aug 1744), Vol. 1: 47-9, Chesterfield County Clerk of Circuit Court, Chesterfield, Virginia; viewed as microfilm 30,871 Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.
3. Avis Rudd will (27 Sep 1759), Vol. 1: 312, Chesterfield County Clerk of Circuit Court, Chesterfield, Virginia; viewed as microfilm 30,871 Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.
Thomas Frith1
Thomas Frith was the son of John Frith and Rebeccah Rudd.1
Thomas Frith was named in the will of Avis Whittaker as her grandson 27 September 1759 in Chesterfield Co, Virginia.1
Citations
1. Avis Rudd will (27 Sep 1759), Vol. 1: 312, Chesterfield County Clerk of Circuit Court, Chesterfield, Virginia; viewed as microfilm 30,871 Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.

Much more discussion of Rudd family here
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/RUDD/2001-06/0...
includes full text of wills of John & Avis Rudd, and other documentation

http://www.totty-families.org/records/vaches.html
1753 August 4 DEED [Abstracted and Compiled by Benjamin B. Weisiger, III, Chesterfield County Virginia DEEDS 1749-1756,©1986 (Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co. Inc. Baltimore, MD 1995), page 58] page 52 John TRAYLOR of Chesterfield Co., to Archer TRAYLOR of same, for £ 10, 350 acres on Nooner Creek, next to William TOTTY and First branch of Wintopock. Wit: Joseph Frith, John WARD, Lucrecy (X) TRAYLOR Recorded 3 Aug. 1753
[so he was born before 1733
For more on Tottys, see http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d... ]

http://genforum.com/archer/messages/1341.html
1754/00/00 Chesterville Co., VA Hugh Bragg of Chesterfiled Co. to Francis Mann land bounded by George Hastens, Second branch, Francis Mann?s spring. Wit: John Belcher, Mark Puckett, John Frith
[she must mean Chesterfield. NOTE -Manns are mentioned in comments for the elder John Frith qv]

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/MOSS/2006-11/1...
Robert Cobb signed his LWT in Halifax Co, VA on June 30, 1768. It was proved on January 19, 1769. His wife Crosia was not named, therefore it is assumed she was already deceased. Robert did name five daughters, to wit: Ann Crumphill ... Elizabeth Cobb ... Sarah Cobb ... Mollie Anderson ... and Judith who was apparently already deceased, as Robert referred to her two children.

http://www.vagenweb.org/unknown/vaqry805.htm
From: frith2 at comcast.net (Jim Frith) August 24, 2005
CASTIN, FRITH -
I am looking for John Edward Frith (1772-1829), born in Virginia, married Mary F. Castin (b.1775) of Virginia, had children: Archibold (b.1795), Harbert C (b.1801), Rebecca Ann (b.1802), John Edward, Jr (b.1810), William A (b.1813), Mary Ann, Thomas (b.1798), and Jane Ray Frith. John Edward (Sr.) moved to Amite Co. Mississippi (no date), where he died. Archibold was born in Va., died in Miss. I don't know what happened to the other children. I want info on John Edward's family in Va. and when they came to America.

http://www.bramblett.com/document/bedford.htm
Bedford County, Virginia Records Index
YR Grantee Grantor Instrument Bk-Pg Description
1806 Frith, Herbert Bramblett, Reuben Deed 12-144 232a in Franklin Co on Staunton River
[thus born bef 1785]

http://www.naturesync.com/~zoomastr/nance/marriages/nancevam...
Joel NANCE and Elizabeth FRITH, 26 May 1817. dau. of Rhoda Hutts; Cornelius Noell, Jr., urety; Married by William Harris, Bedford County, VA

http://www.bgsociety.org/turner_marriages.htm
ca.. Feb. 8, 1836; Lewis Turner & Jane Frith, dt Herbert and Patsy; John Frith, Surety; Married by James Leftwich, Feb. 8, 1836.

Next I will post followups with info I've gleaned from Ron Bass & Tress Pittenger

thanks very much
Richard Thrift
rtx at cox dot net

Can you help me document the early Frith families in Virginia? which of the following items pertains to which individual in which known family? (see my previous post)

This is a re-posting of notes from Ron Bass, rearranged in chronological order
http://genforum.genealogy.com/frith/messages/357.html


"Early Virginia Immigrants, 1623 - 1666". George Cabel Green. Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore. 1978.
Pg 121. Henry FRITH, transported in 1647, by Leonard Pettock, Accomac County.

Pat. Book #2
pg 169 Henry Frith was one of ten persons transported by Leonard Pettock, Accomack County, July 7, 1647.
Edmond Scarbrough - Northampton Co, 6 Oct 1646.

"Early Virginia Families Along the James River, Vol II". Louise Pledge and Heath Foley. Richmond, VA. 1978.
Pg 20. Robert FRYTH was one of 25 persons transported by Stephen Hamelin, Charles City County, 26 Oct 1650. (Patent Book 2)

Personal Notes:
Robert Fryth, transported to Charles City County in October 1650. He may have later moved to York County and married Elizabeth. A court record for May 1658, shows that Elizabeth Frith was a widow of Robert with two minor children, Joseph and Ann Frith.

(I didn't write down the source for the following from but probably York County, VA)
pg 31 of order book. I John Woods am indebted to Mrs. Elizabeth Frith or her heirs for one seat of Land now in the possession of Elizabeth Frith, to make delivery to the heir of Elizabeth Frith, when he comes of age, Joseph Frith, heir of Mr. Robert Frith, dec'd. and also to him one cow, and one yearling heifer to the other heir, Ann Frith, daughter of Robert and Elizabeth Frith, one mare colt to be delivered the 10th November next and also to her one yearling heifer; if the heir of heirs do not live until they come of age this obligation is void, but left to the disposing of Elizabeth Frith, 31 May 1658.
Wit: Francis Hall, Robert Kempe
Signed by John Wood and Elizabeth Frith.

Pat. Book #2
pg 470 Mary Frith, one of 23 transported by Tho Robinson and Ed. Lewis, Rappahannock Co, 1662

Pat. Book #2
pg 427 Ed. Frith, one of 50 transported , by Wm West, Pequimmin River. 1663

"Early Virginia Families Along the James River, Vol II". Louise Pledge and Heath Foley. Richmond, VA. 1978.
Pg 37. Elin FRITH was one of 11 persons transported by John Epes, Charles City County, 17 Mar 1663. (Patent Book 6)

Pat. Book #2
pg 43 Joseph Frith, one of 145 transported by Rich. Webly, Robt. Davis, and Thos Freshwater, Rappahannock and Northumberland Co, 1664

Pat. Book #2
pg 520 Thos Frith, one of 29 transported by John Bruerton, Westmoreland Co, 1664

"Wills of Rappahannock County, Virginia, 1656-1692". William Montgomery Sweeny. 1947.
Nathaniel Frith 3 January 1676/77 4 July 1677
To sons Nathaniel and William Frith my Plantation wch I now live on and the Land belonging to it which is in all 150 acres to be equally divided betwixt them and if one dies the other to have it all. To wife Elizabeth all my moveables and Cattle saving only one cow calf to be delivered to my God daughter Rebecca Williams daughter of Jone Williams. Wife Elizabeth Executrix and if she die Afore they come of age then my tow sons, Nathaniell and William to be possest with their land at 17 years of age.
Wit: Rupert Berker Head, aged 27 years or thereabouts.
Lewis X Jones, aged 40 years or thereabouts.

"Virginia Quit Rent Rolls, 1704, York County"
Joseph Frith 50 acres

"Virginia Wills and Administrators, 1632 - 1800", compiled by Clayton Torrence.
Joseph Frith 1712 i York

"Genealogies of Virginia Families, Vol II". Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore. 1982.
Pg 424. Joseph FRITH married Anne GOODWIN some years after 1715 - widow of Robert Goodwin (married in 1696, Robert and Anne lived in Hampton Parish, York County, VA).

(?"Genealogies of Virginia Families, Vol II". Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore. 1982.)
Pg 2. Will of Ambrose Cobbs of Brunton Parish Church at Williamsburg. Witnesses: Anne Frith, Joseph Frith, Matthew Pierce. Dated 24 Apr 1718, proved 16 Jun 1718.

"Virginia in 1720: A Reconstructed Census" TLC Genealogy, Miami Beach, FL. 1997
Ann Frith York County 7:534
Joseph Frith " 7:534, 624, 626-7, 650, 653, 657-8
ref 7 = "York County, Orders, Wills, Etc. #15, 1716 - 1720", reel 7 (Ann and Joseph were witnesses to a will dated 1718)

The Kings Passengers to Maryland and Virginia by Peter Wilson Coldham, Family Line Publications, Westminster, MD. 1997.
Pgs 8-9. Felons Transported from London by the Gilbert , in October 1720, and registered in Annapolis in May 1721. From Middlesex: Elizabeth Cullum, aged 16, Dark; Elizabeth Frith [Firth], aged 19, Fair.

"Some Wills from the Burned Counties of Virginia, and Other Wills Not Listed In Virginia Wills and Administrations,
1632 - 1800". William Lindsey Hopkins. Richmond. 1987.
Pg 60. Ann Frith, will dated 1740, Henrico County.

"Virginia in 1740: A reconstructed Census" TLC Genealogy, Miami Beach, FL. 1997
Ann Frith Henrico County 44, 45
Anne Frith Henrico County 123
Thomas Froth " 44
ref 44 = "Henrico County Order Book, 1737 - 1746"
ref 45 = "Henrico County Wills, 1737 - 1781"
ref 123 = "Some Wills from Burned Counties", by W.L. Hopkins. 1987

On May 25, 1749, the Virginia General Assembly passed the act that separated Chesterfield from Henrico County -Wikipedia

"Chesterfield County, Virginia Court Orders, 1749 - 1752". TLC Genealogy, Miami Beach, FL. 1991.
Pg 21. Joseph Frith, John Ward, and others named to work on road.

Halifax County was established in 1752 from Lunenburg County. -Wikipedia

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Deeds, 1749 - 1756". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1986.
Deed bk 2, pg 52: Joseph Frith is witness, dated 4 Aug 1753.
" , pg 216: dated 3 Dec 1754.
John Frith of Chesterfield County, to Joseph Frith of same, for L10, land on south side of Anderson's Road, joining George Hester and Thomas Eless, 100 acres. Said Joseph shall not sell any of the land during the life of his father and mother.
Witness: Rebeckah (X) Frith, John Frith, Jr., John Ward.

Bedford county was established on December 13, 1753 from parts of Lunenburg County. -Wikipedia

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Deeds, 1756 - 1764". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1989.
Deed bk 3, 1755 - 1759. pg 255: John Frith is witness to land transaction dated 7 April 1758.
Deed bk 4, 1779 - 1764. pg 584: John Frith is witness, dated 9 Nov 1760. (signed by / mark).

"Virginia in 1760: A reconstructed Census" TLC Genealogy, Miami Beach, FL. 1997.
George Frith Nansemond County 78:144, 78:148
John Fryth Chesterfield County 33:90
ref 78 = "The Vestry Book of the Upper Parish, Nansemond County, VA, 1743 - 1793".
ref 33 = "Chesterfield County, VA, Order Book 3, 1759 - 1767", Library of Virginia, Reel 39.
[Nansemond Co is now Suffolk, VA]

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Deeds, 1764 - 1768". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1989
(No Frith's are mentioned)

"Bedford County Will Book 1, 1759 - 1787". Ann Chilton. 1988.
(Nothing on Frith)

From Ancestral File:
Thomas Frith b: 1777 (Franklin Co, VA) md. Elizabeth Scarborough [Thomas Didimus Frith. Franklin Co didn't exist in 1777; is this LDS birth date reliable? What family is he from?]

Joseph Frith is shown in the Bedford County, VA, census record for 1779. No Frith's are shown on the 1787 tax list for Bedford or Franklin county.

Personal Notes:
Joseph Frith is listed on 1779 census for Bedford County, mentioned in a 1781 Bedford County will, and listed on the 1786 Franklin County tax roll. No Frith's are shown on the 1787 tax list for Bedford or Franklin county. [is this the same Joseph that is listed as the son of John Frith, Sr.? Did he die in 1787? Next mention of Joseph after 1786 is marriage of Joseph and Latetia in 1792.]

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Wills, 1774 - 1802". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1986.
Court book 6. Court of 7 Sep 1781, pg 325: Patty Frifth granted administration of estate of John Frifth.

"Abstracts of Bedford County, Virginia; Wills, Inventories, and Accounts: 1754-1787."
Page 125. Will of Edward Hatcher dated 1 Sep 1781, mentions land boardering Joseph Frith, James Greer, and John Payn.

MARRIAGES
"Computer Indexed marriage Records" Nicholas Russell Murray. Hammond, LA.
Sally FRITH William CLYBORNE 20 Aug 1785 Chesterfield Co, VA

Franklin County was formed in 1785 from parts of Bedford County and Henry County. -Wikipedia

"Virginia Wills and Administrators, 1632 - 1800", compiled by Clayton Torrence.
Martha Frith 1786 i Chesterfield

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Wills, 1774 - 1802". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1986.
Will book 4, pg 81: 14 Oct 1786. Inventory of Martha Frith.

Personal Notes:
A Chesterfield County court record for September 1781, indicate that John Frith has died. [ Is this John, Jr? ] Court record for October 1786, indicate that John's widow, Martha, has died.
Children of John and Martha are listed as: William, Sally, Archer, Drury, and Henry.

"Franklin County, Virginia; A History". Marshall Wingfield.
Page 206. Joseph Frith is on the 1786 tax list for Franklin County.

Thomas Firth is charged with tax in 1787, Brunswick County (age over 21).
# males, white > 16 and < 21 0
# blacks > 16 3
# blacks < 16 5
# horses, colts, mares, & mules 6
# cattle 17
William Firth is listed and shows Thomas Firth as being charged with his tax. (Marriage records for 1782 - 1802, list several Firth's including 3 William Firth's). [?Brunswick Co? -as previous entry]

MARRIAGES
"Computer Indexed marriage Records" Nicholas Russell Murray. Hammond, LA.
Nancy Frith Robert ROSS 22 Dec 1788 Bedford Co, VA

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Wills, 1774 - 1802". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1986.
Court book 7. Court of 14 oct 1790, pg 496: Overseers of Poor, District 3, bind James Moor, a poor orphan; also Drury Frifth, orphan of John Frifth.

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Wills, 1774 - 1802". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1986.
Will book 4 pg 323: Estate of Polly Frith, in account of Thomas Burfoot, D Sheriff and administrator. Recorded 6 June 1791.

MARRIAGES
"Computer Indexed marriage Records" Nicholas Russell Murray. Hammond, LA.
William FRYTH Anne HILL 24 Dec 1791 Chesterfield Co, VA

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Wills, 1774 - 1802". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1986.
Court book 9. Court of 11 Aug 1791, pg 163: Thomas Burfoot granted administration of estate of John Fryth.

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Wills, 1774 - 1802". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1986.
Court of 12 Aug 1791, pg 189: William Cliborne and Sally his wife, Archer Fryth, Drury Fryth, and Henry Fryth, which said persons are children of John and Martha Fryth, dec'd - against Thomas Burfoot, Administrator of John and Martha Fryth, and William Fryth, eldest son of said John and Martha, court rules that estate is to be divided as by order of 6 June 1787.

"Franklin County VA, Marriages" collected by Dorothy Murray. Hunting for Bears, Inc.
Joseph Letitia or Littishe FOWLER 23 Jul 1792 Franklin Co, VA

Marriage Bonds of Franklin County, Virginia: 1786-1858. Marshall Wingfield.
Joseph Frith Letitia Fowler 23 July 1792 Daughter of Susannah Blankenship. Surity: Isham Blankenship

"Annals of Southwest Virginia, 1769 - 1800", Lewis Summers.
Pg. 838. June 4, 1793. John Frith exempted from payment of County (Montgomery County) levies and Poor rates.

MARRIAGES
"Computer Indexed marriage Records" Nicholas Russell Murray. Hammond, LA.
William Frith Rhoda MASON 27 Aug 1796 Bedford Co, VA

MARRIAGES
"Computer Indexed marriage Records" Nicholas Russell Murray. Hammond, LA.
Rebecca FRITH James PUCKETT 22 Dec 1796 Chesterfield Co, VA

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Wills, 1774 - 1802". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1986.
Order book 12. Court of 9 Oct 1797, pg 324: Overseer of Poor, District 3, bind Henry Frith and Elizabeth Harris, poor orphans.

MARRIAGES
"Computer Indexed marriage Records" Nicholas Russell Murray. Hammond, LA.
Drury Frith Polly MARTIN 20 Mar 1798 Chesterfield Co, VA

MARRIAGES
"Computer Indexed marriage Records" Nicholas Russell Murray. Hammond, LA.
William Frith Tabitha KEEN 19 Mar 1798 Chesterfield Co, VA

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Wills, 1774 - 1802". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1986.
Court of 10 Sep 1798, pg 573: Henry Frith, orphan of John Frith, chooses Thomas Martin as his guardian.

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Wills, 1774 - 1802". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1986.
Will book 5. pg 310: Will of Currel Keen: to daughter Tabitha Frith; items. Wife Elizabeth, children Henry, Elisha, Jeremiah, Rhoda. Dated 26 June 1800. [William Frith and Tabitha Keen were married 19 March 1798, in Chesterfield County, VA]

MARRIAGES
"Computer Indexed marriage Records" Nicholas Russell Murray. Hammond, LA.
Thomas Frith Ruth A. GOFF 24 Feb 1800 Bedford Co, VA

1800 Tax List, Bedford County, VA
Joseph FRITH
Harbert
Thomas
William
Joseph
Thomas
[are these all over 21 in different households?]

"Chesterfield County Virginia, Wills, 1774 - 1802". Benjamin B. Weisiger. 1986.
Order book 14. Court of 13 Sep 1802, pg 345: Thomas Martin granted administration of estate of Drury Frith, Dec'd.

"Bedford County Will Book 2, 1787 - 1803". Ann Chilton. 1988.
28 Jan 1802: Joseph Frith, Letta Frith are witness to will of Elizabeth Brooke.
(see Franklin County marriages for Joseph Frith and Lettishe Fowler, July 1792).

MARRIAGES
"Computer Indexed marriage Records" Nicholas Russell Murray. Hammond, LA.
Tuder Frith Mrs. Mary HALLETT 22 Sep 1802 Norfolk Co, VA

"Franklin County VA, Marriages" collected by Dorothy Murray. Hunting for Bears, Inc.
Rebecca Frith Dawson GOSSNELL Sep 1804 Franklin Co, VA
Thomas Frith Elizabeth SCARBOROUGH 4 Jul 1817 Franklin Co, VA
Rebecca Frith Page THORNTON 11 Feb 1839 Franklin Co, VA
John Frith Elizabeth PAYNE 16 Nov 1840 Franklin Co, VA

Marriage Bonds of Franklin County, Virginia: 1786-1858. Marshall Wingfield.
John Frith Elizabeth PAYNE 16 Nov 1840 Daughter of Frances. Surity: Thomas A. Payne
Jacob Frith Mary J. BEHELER 28 Jan 1845 Surity: John Beheler

"Franklin County VA, Marriages" collected by Dorothy Murray. Hunting for Bears, Inc.
Jacob Frith Mary J. BEHELER 28 Jan 1845 Franklin Co, VA
Avis S. Frith William HARRISON 15 Apr 1845 Franklin Co, VA
Susan Ann C. Frith John McGHEE 25 Jan 1847 Franklin Co, VA
Robert R. Frith Mary E. WAGGONER 12 Mar 1850 Franklin Co, VA

Marriage Bonds of Franklin County, Virginia: 1786-1858. Marshall Wingfield.
Robert R. Frith Mary E. WAGGONER 12 Mar 1850 Daughter of Jane

1850 Mortality Schedule, Virginia
John Frith, age 8, born in Virginia, of Henrico County, died in August 1850, of Typhoid Fever

"Franklin County VA, Marriages" collected by Dorothy Murray. Hunting for Bears, Inc.
Elizabeth Frith Chas Booker POWELL 29 Jul 1852 Franklin Co, VA
Thomas D. Frith Caroline E. WINGFIELD Nov 1853 Franklin Co, VA
Martha E. Frith Jeremiah YOUNG 2 Nov 1858 Franklin Co, VA
Lucinda Frith Samuel P. HODGES 6 Dec 1858 Franklin Co, VA


thanks very much
Richard Thrift
rtx at cox dot net

Can you help me document the early Frith families in Virginia? which of the following items pertains to which individual in which known family? (see my previous post)

The following are some of the Frith notes extracted from Tress Pittenger, A History Of My Thrift Ancestors
http://www.vagenweb.org/shenandoah/thrifttressms.html
[I excluded most items referring to Thrifts]

Often he uses the LDS International Genealogical Index (IGI) as his source.
CAUTION -Any item from IGI, and any item for which no source is listed, is UNRELIABLE. Such info is only for use as a starting point, until it can actually be CONFIRMED.
If you have any corrections or additions, or a better source for any of these, please let me know (a few are documented in my previous post).


In 1607 Captain John Smith made a list of the settlers at Jamestown Island including under the heading "Gentlemen", Richard Frith [Peter Wilson Cobham - The Complete Book of Emigrants 1(;07-1 @ p2.] In 1635 Robert Frith, age 23, came to Jamestown from London, England on the ship Assurance, and a week later Thomas Frith, age 17, came on the ship Elizabeth [Peter Wilson Cobham - The Complete Book of Emigrants 1(;07-1 @ p.166; p160.].
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There are records of several Nathaniel Friths living in Virginia prior to 1677, all who married Elizabeths. The first, whom I shall designate as Nathaniel I, was born about 1598 and his wife Elizabeth, was born about 1602 [Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS) International Genealogical Index (IGI) for Virginia.]. As Virginia was not colonized until 1607 their place of birth had to be England. I have no record of their coming to America, although the timing is such that Nathaniel I could have been the son of Richard who was with John Smith's company and he married a daughter of another member of that Company.

The next is Nathaniel born in Virginia in 1620 and an Elizabeth, spouse of Nathaniel Frith, born in Virginia 1625, whom he married in 1645 [Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS) International Genealogical Index (IGI) for Virginia], (I will call him Nathaniel II, who may have been the son of Nathaniel I as the age difference is about right. However, the records show that a Nathaniel Frith married in 1623 but not to whom [Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS) International Genealogical Index (IGI) for Virginia] and there is no evidence that this was Nathaniel I.

Nathaniel Frith II died in 1677 as his will made 3 January 1676/7 was proved 4 July 1677 [Wm. Montgomery Sweeney, Wills of Rappahancork County Virginia 1656- 1692 p.32]. In it he leaves his property to his wife Elizabeth and his two sons Nathaniel, born 1646 (whom I will call Nathaniel III) and William, born 1648 [LDS IGI Virginia] He also leaves a cow to his God-daughter Rebecca Williams, daughter of Jane Williams. I have a record of the birth of Joane (probably Jane) Frith to Nathaniel Thrift in 1630 and the marriage of Joane Frith to Roger Williams in 1670 [LDS IGI Virginia] Thus I believe she was Nathaniel II's sister and Rebecca Williams, his niece.

I have found no further records of the son William or any other children of Nathaniel II. As surmised above the William Thrift born to Nathaniel and Elizabeth Thrift in 1675 was probably the son of Nathaniel III. If Nathaniel II were born in 1620 and Elizabeth in 1625, they married in 1645, and Nathaniel III was born shortly thereafter, then if Nathaniel IV was born about 1669 and William in 1675, Nathaniel III would have been in his early 20s when Nathaniel IV was born and late 20s when William was born.

Thus I believe that the Elizabeth Thrift who married William Davis was the widow of Nathaniel III who died shortly after William was born and that my ancestor Nathaniel Thrift was her son.
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I found other Frith/Thrifts in Virginia in this time period whom I cannot tie into what record I have. A Nathaniel Thrift was born about 1664 in Old Rappahanock County whose spouse was named Rebecca and there was a John Frith who married Anne about 1689, no county designated [LDS IGI Virginia] The latter had a son John born about 1715, a daughter Rebecca born about 1717 and a daughter Mary born about 1719, all born in Henrico County [LDS IGI Virginia]. I suspect the accuracy of the marriage date if the dates of birth are correct. John Jr. married Martha about 1740 and their children were William c.1764, Ann c.1766, Drury c.l768 who married Polly Martin 20 March 1798, Henry c.l770, Sally c.l772, and John c.1774 [LDS IGI Virginia]. Again the dates are suspect as it is too long between the date of marriage and the birth days are every two years.
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A 26 September 1677 entry in the Order Book for Westmoreland County states that Francis Frith non-suits John Newton on 50 lbs of tobacco.
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In the Order Book of Old Rappahanock County is an item dated 3 March 1685/86 in which a judgment for attachment was granted William Hurst against the estate of John Stafford. However, it was not to be levied on any of the estate of the orphans of Thomas Frith "which by intermarriage is now in the hands of Stafford". Finally, in 1689 a John Frith married Ann but no county is designated [LDS IGI Virginia].
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FRITH IN VIRGINIA CHRONOLOGY

1598 - Nathaniel Frith, Richmond (Old Rappahanock) County, born in England .

1602 - Mrs. Nathaniel Frith, Richmond County (Old Rappahanock), born in England.

1607 - Richard Frith, included in Company of John Smith at Jamestown.

1620 - Nathaniel Frith, Richmond (Old Rappahanock) County, spouse Elizabeth born 1623.
- Nathaniel Frith, Richmond (Old Rappahanock) County, Mrs. Nathaniel Frith married.

1630 - Joane Frith, Richmond (Old Rappahanock) County, born Nathaniel Frith and Mrs. Nathaniel Frith.

1635 - Robert Thrift, age 23 to Virginia by Isaak Bromwell.
- Thomas Frith age 17 to Virginia by Christopher Browne.

1645 - Nathaniel Frith, Richmond (Old Rappahanock) County, married Mrs. Elizabeth Frith.

1646 - Nathaniel Frith, Richmond County (Old Rappahanock), born to Nathaniel Frith and Elizabeth.

1647 - Henry Frith to Isle of Wight County.

1648 - William Frith, Richmond (old Rappahanock) County, born to Nathaniel Frith and Elizabeth.

1670 - Joane Frith, Richmond (Old Rappahanock) County, married Roger Williams.

1675 - William Thrift, old Rappahanock County, North Farnham Parish born to Nathaniel and Elizabeth.

1677 - Francis Frith, Westmoreland County, Order Book, nonsuits John Newton 50 lbs tobacco.

1681 - John Frith, Old Rappahanock County, witness to deed.

1685/6 - Thomas Frith, Old Rappahanock County Order Book 1685-87 Attachment against John Stafford not be levied on estate of orphans of Thomas Frith which by intermarriage is now in hands of Stafford.

1689 - John Frith, Richmond County, married Mrs. Ann Frith.

1715 - John Frith, Henrico Countv, born John and Anne.
1717 - Rebecca Frith, Henrico County, born John and Anne.
1719 - Mary Frith, Born John Frith and Ann.
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1740 - John Frith, Henrico County, married Martha.
1742 - Mrs. Martha Frith, Born.
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1757 - Mrs. Betty Frith, Lunenburg County, married Charles Allen.
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1764 - William Frith, Born John and Martha.
1766 - Ann Frith, Born John and Martha.
1768 - Drury Frith, Born John and Martha. 1798 married Polly Martin Chesterfield County.
1770 - Henry Frith, born John and Martha.
1772 - Sally Frith, Born John and Martha.
1774 - John Frith, Born John and Martha.
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1776-1783 Virginia Soldiers in Revolutionary War: John Frith
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1788 - Nancy Frith, Bedford County, married Robert Ross.


thanks very much
Richard Thrift
rtx at cox dot net