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Death at Sea, Augustus KELLER ( KOLLER) from Neuenfeld, Germany

Death at Sea, Augustus KELLER ( KOLLER) from Neuenfeld, Germany

Posted: 4 Jan 2012 1:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 4 Jan 2012 1:07PM GMT
Surnames: Keller , Koller
Augustus Keller (Koller) immigrant from Neuenfeld, Germany, on ship Silesia. No records found subsequent to arrival in 1881. Wife and children settled in WNY. Possible death at sea?

Re: Death at Sea, Augustus Keller ( Koller)

Posted: 4 Jan 2012 9:43AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Keller
Maybe he was going under the name of August Keller. ....Someone of that name, aged 57, born April 1843 Germany was living in Pennsylvania on the 1900 census.

He is with Catharine, his wife, aged 56, born 1844, and they have been married 37 years. They married in 1863.
They are at Altoona Ward 8, Blair, Pennsylvania.

Brian

Re: Death at Sea, Augustus Keller ( Koller)

Posted: 4 Jan 2012 2:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you, but they settled in New York State. Thanks, again.

Re: Death at Sea, Augustus KELLER ( KOLLER) from Neuenfeld, Germany

Posted: 8 Jan 2012 12:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Bit confused. You say "No records found subsequent to arrival" which seems to indicate you have a record that he did actually arrive. Whatever happened, if he arrived he could hardly have died at sea?

Re: Death at Sea, Augustus KELLER ( KOLLER) from Neuenfeld, Germany

Posted: 8 Jan 2012 4:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 8 Jan 2012 9:34PM GMT
I WAS REFERRING TO THE ARRIVAL OF THE SHIP AND THE KELLER FAMILY, NOT TO THE ARRIVAL OF AUGUSTUS KELLER,SPECIFICALLY.
I KNOW HE WAS ABOARD THE SHIP WHEN IT LEFT NEUENFELD SINCE I HAVE COPIES OF TWO ORIGINAL PASSENGER LISTS (IN GERMAN,WITH TRANSLATIONS) A HAMBURG PASSENGER LIST DATED 1850-1934 AND A NY LIST DATED 1830-1950. HE WAS ON THE SHIP BUT I DON'T KNOW IF HE GOT OFF OR MAY HAVE BECOME ILL AND WAS BURIED AT SEA.
MY GRANDMOTHER WAS HIS DAUGHTER AND SHE AND HER SIBLINGS AND HIS WIFE ARE BURIED LOCALLY, SO, I'M TRYING TO SOLVE THE RIDDLE OF AUGUSTUS.




Re: Death at Sea, Augustus KELLER ( KOLLER) from Neuenfeld, Germany

Posted: 9 Jan 2012 10:20AM GMT
Classification: Query
I am not sure of the legal situation in ships of other nationalities, but in ships sailing under the British flag a death at sea would have to be recorded in the Captain's daily log, by law, and the log handed over at the end of the voyage. I am fairly sure this was general practice in European ships by 1881. What you should be looking for is the Captain's log for that voyage - not the passenger list. If the death was not recorded by the Captain, he did not die at sea - unless something very dodgy was going on! If you do not have it you will need the actual port of departure, probably Hamburg, could be Stettin, it most certainly was not Neuenfeld which is well inland, close to the present-day Polish border.

Re: Death at Sea, Augustus KELLER ( KOLLER) from Neuenfeld, Germany

Posted: 9 Jan 2012 12:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you, so much. I'll pursue your suggestions. The port of departure was Hamburg. I do have that info. Again, thanks. This has been very helpful.

Re: Death at Sea, Augustus KELLER ( KOLLER) from Neuenfeld, Germany

Posted: 9 Jan 2012 1:41PM GMT
Classification: Query
I think you need to identify exactly which "Silesia" it was - use "theshipslist". A quick look seems to say that Silesia (1) which would have been the one for that date had been taken off the Hamburg-New York run by 1881 and was running Hamburg-West Indies. However, it was a very quick check and that is not to say she was not calling in elsewhere, but you could waste a lot of time if you do not make sure you have the right Silesia. Good luck.

Re: Death at Sea, Augustus KELLER ( KOLLER) from Neuenfeld, Germany

Posted: 9 Jan 2012 9:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you. I'll print your message and "take it" from there.
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