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Help deciphering a German placename

jkapp130  (View posts) Posted: 20 May 2012 9:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: KAPP
Hey All! I am hoping someone can help me decipher a German placename. In the photo are two names I believe to be "Maria Catherina" and "Jacob Kapp" (though perhaps there is an extra letter at the end of 'Kapp'?). Listed under each name I believe is their birthplace or from where they came but I cannot make it out. It may help to know that this photo is from a family register in Nabern, Württemberg though I am fairly certain the two names are not from there. Perhaps close by? Any ideas what these words are?

Thank You in advance!

Cheers,
Jack (great-great-great-great-grandson of this Jacob KAPP)
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Re: Help deciphering a German placename

terrylharris  (View posts) Posted: 21 May 2012 2:12PM GMT
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The names appear correct. Underneath I get Jagd. Soldat and can not get the rest.

Re: Help deciphering a German placename

jkapp130  (View posts) Posted: 21 May 2012 2:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: KAPP
Thank you. I may have found the answer in someone else's tree. They have the place listed as 'Gültstein'. I think that may be it.

Re: Help deciphering a German placename

alois897  (View posts) Posted: 22 May 2012 7:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, it reads
"Maria Catharina, Jacob Kapps,
Tagl.[öhners] Tochter, ... "
(the last word is difficult to read without a context)
(the "s" in means "of", Tochter=daughter)

"Maria Catharina, daughter of Jacob Kapp,
day laborer, ... "

Re: Help deciphering a German placename

jkapp130  (View posts) Posted: 22 May 2012 11:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: KAPP
Thanks alois897. Perhaps this picture, showing more of the register page can provide more context. I believe the word under "Jacob Kapp" is the same word that appears in the upper left where his birthdate is listed. I surmise that the word is "Gültstein".

Your transcription though intrigues me because the section I am discussing is under 'Mother' with nothing listed under 'Father'. Therefore, your transcription may be implying that the father was unknown and the mother listed as the "daughter" of a Jacob KAPP, meaning that she was unwed? Interesting.

Can you determine the words under "Jacob Friedrich Kapp" and above his date of death?
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Re: Help deciphering a German placename

klausisele  (View posts) Posted: 23 May 2012 6:42AM GMT
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Indeed Jacob Friedrich Kapp was illegitimate son of Maria Catharina Kapp.
So the entry qould be:
Maria Catharina, Jacob Kapps
Tagl. Tochter, Gültstein
=
Maria Catharina, daughter of Jacob Kapp,
day laborer, Gültstein

The words under Jacob Friedrich Kapp I would read
B(auer) u(nd) Seiler
= farmer and ropemaker

Re: Help deciphering a German placename

alois897  (View posts) Posted: 23 May 2012 9:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
Klaus,

I suppose the B. stands for

B.(ürger) u.(nd) Seiler
=citizen (of Nabern) and ropemaker
+ 22 Sept.(ember) 1891.

Re: Help deciphering a German placename

klausisele  (View posts) Posted: 23 May 2012 1:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
ok, fits better

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