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Wallin Family

Posted: 2 May 2012 3:08PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 2 May 2012 3:10PM GMT
Surnames: Wallin, Wahlin, Svensdotter, Hakanson
I've been searching for great grandparents in Sweden and have reached a dead end. My GGF name was Nils Magnus Wallin, he was married to Emma Svensdotter (or Hakanson). They had three daughters, Maria Elisabet, Hanna Magdalena, and Emma Amalia.

All children were born in Ransater, Varmland, Sweden.

And would someone be able to explain why, on Ancestry, I can search for Emma Hakanson and it will show up but below that name it will say (Emma Svensdotter) in parenthesis? It's confusing. On the children's records it shows her mother as being Emma Svensdotter.

Most of the databases that I've been trying to search outside of Ancestry are all in Swedish so it's been difficult finding info.

Any help I can get would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Re: Wallin Family

Posted: 2 May 2012 3:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
When were these people born!!!!!

Judy

Re: Wallin Family

Posted: 2 May 2012 3:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
"And would someone be able to explain why, on Ancestry, I can search for Emma Hakanson and it will show up but below that name it will say (Emma Svensdotter) in parenthesis? It's confusing."

Well, if it confuses you and you are looking at the record, think how confusing it is to us. Most of the people who might help you on this board are not subscribed to the world version of Ancestry.com. (We are instead subscribed to Genline and/or SVAR and/or Arkiv Digital.)

Provide more of a context for your confusion and maybe we will be able to help out.

Found in 1890 and 1900 Swedish Census CDs

Posted: 2 May 2012 3:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
1890 Swedish Census CD:

The father had not yet taken the surname Wallin.

Magnusson, Nils Magnus 1864 F
Svensdotter, Emma 1865 M
(Barn), Maria Elisabet 1889 Ch

Post 3362778

Magnusson, Nils Magnus
Inhyseshjon

b. 1864 i Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Man, married (father)

Munkerud Norra.
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (original source): Ransäter


Post 3362779

Svensdotter, Emma

b. 1865 i Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

h.
Woman, married (mother)

Munkerud Norra.
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (original source): Ransäter


Post 3362780

Maria Elisabet

b. 1889 i Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

d.
Girl (child)

Munkerud Norra.
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (original source): Ransäter
=======================
1900 Swedish Census CD:

The father now has the surname Vallin. (Wallin is the same name. V and W are interchangeable.)


Magnusson Vallin, Nils Magnus 1864 Father
Svensdotter, Emma 1865 Mother
(Barn), Maria Elisabet 1889 Child
(Barn), Hanna Magdalena 1891 Child
(Barn), Emma Amalia 1893 Child
(Barn), Anna Matilda 1897 Child
(Barn), Signe Kristina 1900 Child
----------
Håkansdotter, Lisa 1844


Record 2159570

Magnusson Vallin, Nils Magnus
Lägenhetseg.

b. 1864 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Man, married, father

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (original source): Ransäters annex


Record 2159576

Svensdotter, Emma

b. 1865 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

h.
Woman, married, mother

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (original source): Ransäters annex


Record 2159572

Maria Elisabet

b. 1889 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

d.
Girl, child

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (original source): Ransäters annex


Record 2159571

Hanna Magdalena

b. 1891 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

d.
Girl, child

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (original source): Ransäters annex


Record 2159573

Emma Amalia

b. 1893 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

d.
Girl, child

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (original source): Ransäters annex


Record 2159575

Anna Matilda

b. 1897 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

d.
Girl, child

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Döpt af lekman = baptised by layman

Place of birth (original source): Ransäters annex


Record 2159574

Signe Kristina

b. 1900 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

d.
Girl, child

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (original source): Ransäters annex
-------------------
Record 2159577

Håkansdotter, Lisa

b. 1844 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

svärmor = mother-in-law; enka = widow
Widow

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (original source): Ransäters annex



Don't worry about researching the Swedish records.

Posted: 2 May 2012 3:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 2 May 2012 3:55PM GMT
"Most of the databases that I've been trying to search outside of Ancestry are all in Swedish so it's been difficult finding info."

Of course the scanned Swedish records are going to be in Swedish (since that is the language spoken by our ancestors), but those are the best records to use. The records were written in a set pattern, for the most part, and it doesn't take long to learn a few Swedish words. Most of the people researching in Swedish records who are not native Swedish speakers, such as myself, are able to find HUGE amounts of information in the Swedish records. You will be severely limiting what you will learn about your ancestors if you avoid the original Swedish records.

Download this free booklet to get an overview of Swedish genealogy.

http://www.sweden.se/upload/Sweden_se/english/publications/R...

Also purchase a guidebook, such as "Your Swedish Roots" or "Cradled in Sweden". I own both.


http://tinyurl.com/6bkhb5

http://tinyurl.com/57exb

There are sites which translate Swedish genealogical words. Here are a couple.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~swewgw/Fact/Dict/facdic02....

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/RG/frameset_rg.asp?De...

I also suggest that you purchase "Swedish Genealogical Dictionary".

http://www.swedishgenealogicaldictionary.com/

Judy


Death of parents and the mother-in-law Lisa HÃ¥kansdotter

Posted: 2 May 2012 4:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
DVD "Swedish Death Index 1901-2009":

18640624

Vallin, Nils Magnus

Munkerud

Dead 5/6/1945.

Registered in Munkfors (Värmlands län, Värmland).

Born 6/24/1864 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland).

Widower (10/27/1944).
--------------
Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010:
Munkfors-Ransäter, Munkfors kn (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Parish of birth in the records:
Ransäter (Värmland)

Source records:
DB, FS


18650928

Vallin f. Svensson, Emma

Munkerud

Dead 10/27/1944.

Registered in Munkfors (Värmlands län, Värmland).

Born 9/28/1865 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland).

Married woman (12/31/1888).
--------------
Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010:
Munkfors-Ransäter, Munkfors kn (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Parish of birth in the records:
Ransäter (Värmland)

Source records:
DB, FS
=====================
18440201

Håkansdotter, Lisa

Munkerud

Dead 1/17/1908.

Registered in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland).

Born 2/1/1844 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland).

Unmarried woman.
--------------
Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010:
Munkfors-Ransäter, Munkfors kn (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Parish of birth in the records:
Ransäter (Värmland)

Source records:
DB, FS
========================

Who else might have died in Sweden from this family?

Judy

Re: Don't worry about researching the Swedish records.

Posted: 2 May 2012 4:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you very much for your help. I was working on gathering the birth dates/years for the family and by the time I had them gathered you'd already found info.

I have learned a few swedish words, and I did print out a dictionary with geneology type swedish to english translations to help me out. I guess when I open a database and it looks so daunting. I'll get better at it. And thank you again.

Re: Death of Emma Amalia

Posted: 2 May 2012 4:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
DVD "Swedish Death Index 1901-2009":

18930729-9306

Vallin, Emma Amalia

Sjukhuset avd 2
684 00 Munkfors

Dead 3/29/1988.

Registered (1967) in Munkfors, Munkfors kn (Värmlands län, Värmland). Registered for taxation (1967) in the same parish.

Born 7/29/1893 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland).

Unmarried woman.
--------------
Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2010:
Munkfors-Ransäter, Munkfors kn (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Parish of birth in the records:
Ransäter (Värmland)

Source records:
RTB 88 / SPAR 90


Judy

1880 Swedish Census CD

Posted: 2 May 2012 4:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
1880 Swedish Census CD:

One of the children is your Nils Magnus Magnusson (literally, Magnus' son, son of Magnus) Valin.

Nilsson, Magnus 1833 Father
Andersdotter, Maria 1834 Mother
(Barn), Stina 1860 Child
(Barn), Nils Magnus 1864 Child
(Barn), Lovisa 1868 Child
(Barn), Anders Gustaf 1873 Child
(Barn), Petter 1875 Child


Record 1880-17-23-1300

Nilsson, Magnus
Jordbrukare

b. 1833 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Man, married, father

Södra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (in the database): Ransäter Värmlands län


Record 1880-17-23-1301

Andersdotter, Maria

b. 1834 in Övre Ullerud (Värmlands län, Värmland)

h.
Woman, married, mother

Södra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (in the database): Övre Ullerud Värmlands län


Record 1880-17-23-1302

Stina

b. 1860 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

d.
Woman, single, child

Södra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (in the database): Ransäter Värmlands län

Record 1880-17-23-1303

Nils Magnus

b. 1864 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

s.
Man, single, child

Södra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (in the database): Ransäter Värmlands län


Record 1880-17-23-1304

Lovisa

b. 1868 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

d.
Woman, single, child

Södra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (in the database): Ransäter Värmlands län


Record 1880-17-23-1305

Anders Gustaf

b. 1873 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

s.
Man, single, child

Södra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (in the database): Ransäter Värmlands län


Record 1880-17-23-1306

Petter

b. 1875 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

s.
Man, single, child

Södra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (in the database): Ransäter Värmlands län
=============================
1880 Swedish Census CD:

Håkansson, Håkan 1809 Father
Jonasdotter, Maria 1817 Mother
----------
(Saknar efternamn), Lisa 1844 Mother
Svensdotter, Emma 1865 Child
----------
Håkansson, Anders 1854 Father
Persdotter, Karolina 1857 Mother


Record 1880-17-23-967

Håkansson, Håkan
Undant.

b. 1809 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Man, married, father

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (in the database): Ransäter Värmlands län


Record 1880-17-23-968

Jonasdotter, Maria

b. 1817 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

h.
Woman, married, mother

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (in the database): Ransäter Värmlands län
----------------
Record 1880-17-23-969

Lisa (This is the Lisa Håkansdotter, (literally Håkan's daughter, daughter of Håkan), who was the mother-in-law in the 1900 Swedish Census.)

b. 1844 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

d.= daughter (of Håkan Håkansson, above, and probably the daughter of Maria Jonasdotter also, but that will need to be checked in the birth records.)

Woman, single, mother

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (in the database): Ransäter Värmlands län


Record 1880-17-23-970

Svensdotter, Emma (This is the same Emma Svensdotter you originally asked about.)

b. 1865 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

d.
Woman, single, child

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)
--------------------------
Record 1880-17-23-971

Håkansson, Anders

b. 1854 in Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

s.= son
Man, married, father

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (in the database): Ransäter Värmlands län


Place of birth (in the database): Ransäter Värmlands län


Record 1880-17-23-972

Persdotter, Karolina

b. 1857 in Sunne (Värmlands län, Värmland)

h.= wife
Woman, married, mother

Norra Munkerud
Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)

Place of birth (in the database): Sunne Värmlands län


The above record therefore provides you with the father and probable mother of Emma Svensdotter, Emma's mother, and Emma's uncle and wife.

The actual parish records are far more detailed.

Judy

Swedish Naming Traditions

Posted: 2 May 2012 4:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Ingela Martenius has written an interesting and very informative article about Swedish naming traditions. You need to understand those naming customs or you will end up researching the wrong lines.

http://web.comhem.se/~u31263678/genealogy/Names.pdf

Judy
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