Would someone please be kind enough to look up if CHARLES BRITTEN JOHNSON d in Binghamton around 1835? He was b around 1788 in the UK, & was an MD & surgeon. Also for the births of his 2 daughters, Emily Evans JOHNSON b 1830/1 & Eliza Hughes BRITTEN JOHNSON b 1833 both in Binghamton. Also any more children he may have had earlier than that? He & his wife Elizabeth [nee Evans] m in 1808 in the UK & I would have thought they may have had children before these 2 in the 1830's??? Also read the message CHARLES BRITTEN JOHNSON below this. Thank you so much, Roz

Roz,

NY state did not require birth/death registration until 1881 so unless you find church records, newspaper notices, etc., there won`t be records of the Johnson girls birth or Charles Johnson`s death.

There were two Charles Johnsons on the 1830 census in Broome Co. One was in Lisle which is about 20 miles from Binghamton. The other in Chenango, nine miles from Binghamton. The 1830 only gives the name of the head of household; all other in the home are listed under male & female age groups. The Charles in Chenango is listed as Charles B. Johnson & his household has 4 males; 1 in the 10 to 15 age group, 1 in the 10 to 20, 1 in the 40 to 50 & one in the 70 to 80. There are 2 females; one in the 15-20 group & 1 in the 40 to 50. I think this household is most likely to be your Johnsons. The one in Lisle has 1 male in the 30 to 40 group & 2 females, one under 5 & 1 20 to 30. The adults are probably too young to be yours.

Try contacting the historians in the area to see if they might have information on your Charles Johnson.
http://www.gobroomecounty.org/historian
http://theusgenweb.org/ny/broome//brhistrn.htm

Pat R.

Hi Pat, thank you for all that info, which I didn't know of course. I certainly shall contact the 2 web sites you've given me, thanks very much. The 2 girls weren't born for the 1830 census, maybe one was, as I've got her b'date as 1830-1 & the other 1833, but I'm sure there wasn't a 70-80yr old living with them. I actually don't think either of the families are mine. The 1830 census didn't give the father's occupation then? The father wrote 2 books on the British Settlement in Susquehanna Co. Do you think they could have been living there? The girls were definately on the 1851 UK census as British Citizens born in Binghamton, Broome Co.but I can't find their parents so I assume they've both died by then which is why they were living with their aunt & uncle in UK. Once again thanks a lot, Roz

Roz,

The US census didn`t list occupations until 1850, sorry. There were no Charles Johnsons in Susquehanna Co., PA. in 1830. I wouldn`t completely disregard the Charles B. in Chenango in 1830. Since there were no names or relationships given on the 1830 the 70-80 yr. old and even the 15-20 yr old female could have been servants or otherwise unrelated to the head of household.

I checked the 1850 census for Broome Co. for any male Johnsons born in England & there is only one, a Thomas Johnson, age 40, in Chenango whose occ. is bookkeeper for the railroad. His presumed wife (no relationships given) is Primrose, also b. England & there are five children, all b. NY, including a son Charles.

Good luck,
Pat

Pat, once again thanks for all this info. I suppose the Thomas & Primrose Johnson info only said b England & not where in Eng?? I've found this on censuses for Canada so it's pretty nigh impossible to track them any further. You're correct about the other 2 bods on the census living with them, they could easily have been servants because the Johnsons had money, property & land back in the UK & could easily afford servants. Would you mind telling me the names of the other children, please, because back then much more than now, family first names were repeated generation after generation. I'll also have a look for a CJ m a Primrose back in the UK, mind you they may have m in the US. Many thanks, Roz

Roz,

Below is the 1850 census for the Thomas Johnson family.

There is a site http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html that has searchable old newspapers for parts of NY including the Binghamton area. One of the papers is the Binghamton Broome Republican for 1828-1835. There are 8 hits for the name Charles B. Johnson if you do a Boolean search using the search term:
Binghamton NY Broome Republican 1828~~1835 and Charles B w/1 Johnson
Most are lists of names of people who have letters in the Post Office awaiting pickup. A couple are legal notices about land lawsuits. In one it says that the village of Binghamton is in the town of Chenango. So the Charles B. Johnson who was in Chenango in 1830 could very well have been living in the village of Binghamton.

Pat

1850; Census Place: Chenango, Broome, New York; Roll: M432_478; Page: 334; 3 Sept.
Thomas Johnson, age 40, b. England, occ. bookkeeper RR
Primrose - 40, b. England
Robert M. - 12, b. NY
Charles - 10, b. NY
Levi - 8, b. NY
Cameron - 3, b. NY
Anna - 1, b. NY
Isabella MARR - 81, b. Scotland
Bridget MERIN - 30, b. Ireland

Pat, thanks for all this. I had looked on the Fulton History site previously but really found nothing that I felt matched, but I'll browse again at sometime. I too found lots on unclaimed mail. I'm still searching for Thomas & Primrose without success yet, BUT I did find this & wonder if you can find anymore on this for me please? I found a James Madison Spratt m Iliza Hughes Johnson, & Emily's sister was Eliza Hughes Johnson. Married in All Saints Church NY, NY on 4 Mar 1855, & she was 22 yrs old which would be correct because she was b in 1833. She was in the UK on the 1851 census but could have gone back to NY by 1855 because I can't find a marr or death for her in the UK. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!! Roz.

Pat, I beleive Iliza m James M Spratt is my Eliza, because I've now found them on the 1880 US census, this is the only one I can get because it's on the Mormon Family Search site. He's down as a merchant [of what I don't know] & her name is spelt with an E now, not an I & she was b in NY, & her father was Eng & her mother Welsh. This is all correct! They have 6 children, names are not familiar with her family names but it looks pretty good to me. They live in Galena, Jo Daviess, Illinois. Where is this Jo Daviess other than in Illinois, I've never heard of it. Roz

Gelena is the city in Illinois and Jo Daviess is the County. If you google Galena, Illinois you will find it. It seems to be in the Northwest section of Illinois near the Mississippi River and a little south of Wisconsin

Thanks Kathy for the info. It was the Jo Daviess that threw me. I'll look it up on my map. Roz