I am seeking the descendants of William Joseph
Lagle (Jr.), son of Susan Lagle of NC who moved
to this area in the latter 1800's.

James, I just thought I would give you a little info on my back ground. Harold Lagle was my grandfather, married to Demeris Lagle and divorced. Had two sons: Raymond Harold Lagle and Marvin Duane Lagle. Raymond married Cynthia Phelps Lagle and had two kids: Duane Michael Lagle and Lisa Lea Lagle. Marvin married Terry Lagle and had 3 kids: Melissa, Michael and Jimmy Lagle then divorced and remarried to Linda Lagle and had one kid Lindsey Lagle. This is as much as I know. Also looking for info on a Bud Lagle from Anderson, Indiana. My dad seems to think he might be a relative of his, but we have no info. Thanks again, Lisa Lagle

James, my great grandmother was Mary C. Lagle, her mother was Susan Lagle born abt. 1840 in NC
I have a 1880 Ga-Census of Lumpkin County, Shoal Creek District where Susan is listed as head of household with
2 children Mary 16 born in NC and Joseph 2 yrs born in Ga.
email me if you think there might be a connection. Thanks
Bonnie
FlaminStorm@aol.com or
WildSthrnSKY@netscape.net

My great-grandfather is Joseph Lagle. His mother, Susan Lagle and his sister, Mary, moved to Georgia from North Carolina while Susan was pregnant with him. The 1880 census in Lumpkin Co., GA, listed Joseph as 2 years old. I have tried for years to find information on Granddaddy Lagle's family, but I never find anything substantial. According to family, Susan Lagle was Cherokee Indian. There was never any mention of a father. I'm not sure if my Joseph is the one you are looking for.

Its the same Joseph. I have been been banging my head
against a brick wall on this one since 1980.

First thing; we chart all Lagle's even if they prove
to be non-related up, thru at least WWI.

Second thing; the surname was not supposed to be Lagle.
Before they came to Rowan Co. NC ca. 1755-58 the surname
was spelled in such a way as to rhyme with rail, rile,
or bell. Only the branch that stayed in Rowan Co past
1800 kept the Lagle spelling till this day. There are 4
other branches. Three lost the Lagle spelling as soon as
they left NC in 1778, 1778, and 1807, respectively. The
final branch moved to western NC and kept the Lagle
spelling for quite some time. For this last branch the
spelling started to change back around 1840 and was
pretty complete by 1880.

Third thing;There are no Lagle/Lail daughters or wives
who could possibly be Susan unless she changed her given
name.

That leaves one last possibility, out-of-wedlock. If
that is the case I actually have a glimmer of who this
father might be but I don't know how in the heck you
could prove it.

I did some research last summer and came up with one possibility. In the 1850 census of Burke Co., N.C. I found a Joseph Lail. In his household there were three teenagers with the Lawman or Lowman surname. One of them was 13-year-old Susan. I noticed a Saul(?)Lowman who was 25 and a blacksmith and head of a family listed two households above Joseph Lail. I am just guessing, but wondering if Susan may have had two children, Mary and Joseph, out-of-wedlock with this Joseph. Her age is a little off because in the 1880 census Susan was listed as 40.

When I was younger my cousin showed me a video of Shellie Phillips, who is the son of Mary C. Lagle Phillips and grandson of Susan Lagle. In the video he said that Susan died before Joe or Mary married. Mary took care of Joe when Susan died. I do not know how to find a death certificate for Susan. I was looking for any kind of legal documentation that might give me insight into her life.

I looked into this and what I found is interesting.

First off Joseph Lagle 1801 passed sometime before
1866 so he can not be the father of Joseph 1878.
although he certainly could have fathered Mary.
Also fyi Christine Lowman was the second wife
of Joseph Lagle 1801. That's the negative.

I started looking into Susan Lowman's who were born
anywhere near 1837-40 in NC and I got a really nice
possibility.

Elizabeth Susan Lowman was born ca. 1840 in Burke Co.
NC to a James Lowman and Mary Barbara Arrowood. In the
1860 Burke Co. census there is a E.S.(f)Lowman aged 20
living in HH of Barbary Lowman. In the 1870 census of
Cherokee Co. NC there is an Elizabeth Susan Lowman b.
ca. 1839 in a HH with two other families; one that is
near impossible to read and the other is Arwood. This
Elizabeth Susan Lowman has three children listed one
of which is Mariah b.ca.1862.

Isham Lagle/Lail 1812 was living in that county in 1870
He had four sons all of whom were either lost in the war
or moved away. If there is a connection its almost got
to be him. Also fwiw his first marriage broke up between
1870 and 1880.

It's worth pursuing.

Sad to say I have been able to establish
that Elizabeth Susan Lowman is not the
girl we are looking for. She is not the
Susan in the Joseph Lagle household either.

Thank you for looking into this. I have been unable to pursue anything the last couple of days because I have been working.

I was unable to find anything on any of the Lowman
children listed in that 1850 census entry, which
is very odd considering the ages.

Having determined that the Lagle children listed
in the census are Joseph's grandchildren it seems
possible that the Lowman children were also. I will
continue to follow up on this.