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Charles Joseph Huard, Nice France

Bradley Kassian  (View posts) Posted: 21 Aug 2009 8:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Huard, Gautier
I need help and information on a Charles Joseph Huard who was born on December 2, 1856 in France. Probably born in or around Nice, France. He eventually got married to a Eulalie Gautier. Charles passed away on Sept 26, 1914 in Saskatoon City Hospital, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada.His wife Eulalie Gautier was born 12 Dec 1851. They had five children together, three of which were born in Nice,France and the fifth born in Sask. They were Charles Joseph Huard Jr. (16 Dec 1883),Louis Eme Valerie Huard (03 Dec 1884- 27 Jan 1958) -my great grandfather, Camille Huard (13 Feb 1888- 1968), Eugene Huard (12 Mar 1900), and Alphonse Huard (1901)
. He emigrated to North Battleford, Saskatchewan in 1892. His family followed him in 1893. He died on 26 Sep 1914 in Saskatoon City Hospital, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. He was my great great grandfather. Any information about him such as his parents would be most helpful, and greatly appreciated. I have no information on were and when Charles and Eulalie got married. I have no information on Charles's ancestry. I do have info on his wife's ancestry but nothing on him. I do have records of this family in Canada but nothing in France. I would greatly appreciate any help anyone can offer. - Thanks Brad

Re: Charles Joseph Huard, Nice France

Soospad  (View posts) Posted: 25 Aug 2009 12:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Brad!

I've searched all the birth and marriage records for Nice and found nothing for Charles or his children. I found a couple of Huards in Nice who came from Brignoles in Var so I looked them up but there was no connection with Charles.

I did find a baptism for Eulalie Gautier on 25 March 1852 in Saint-Dominique parish daughter of Horace and Elisabeth Lupia - is that your great-great-grandmother? What information do you have for her? Do you know in which parish or commune of Nice she and her ancestors lived? That can sometimes give some clues. Quite often marriages took place in the wife's parish. Do you know what Charles's occupation was?

Let me know any information you have on Charles and Eulalie up to their arrival in Canada. If you ever heard any names of people or places, no matter how vague, let me know and I'll see what I can do to help.

Cheers,
Soosi.

Re: Charles Joseph Huard, Nice France

Bradley Kassian  (View posts) Posted: 25 Aug 2009 4:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Huard, Gautier
Sorry, I don't really have much to go on. Eulalie Antoinette Annonziata Gautier is my great great grandmother. Born abt 25 Mar 1852. baptisted: 25 Mar 185 Saint Domanique Parish, Nice, Alpes-Maritimes, Provence, France. Her parents were Horace Laurent Gautier (b.15 Jul 1810, Menton, Alpes-Maritimes, Provence, France) + Elisabeth Loupias (b.10 Oct 1818 Sainte-Réparate Parish, Nice, Alpes-Maritimes, France). Horace, and Elisabeth were married on 10 May 1851 in Saint-Etienne parish,Nice, Alpes-Maritimes, France.

Ok going back to Charles Joseph Huard. Born 02 Dec 1856, died in 26 Sep 1914. Charles and Eulalie had five children.
Charles Joseph Huard Jr. 16 Dec 1883
Louis Eme Valerie Huard 03 Dec 1884-27 Jan 1958 (my great grandfather)
Camille Huard 13 Feb 1888-1968
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The three children above were born in France. Canadian Census records said it was Nice, France.

Eugene Huard 12 Mar 1900
Alphonse Huard 1901
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Charles and Eulalie got married about 1882.Charles moved to Canada in 1892, followed by his wife and children in 1893. They moved to North Battleford Sask, Canada.

I am afraid thats all I really have on them. Hope you can help. Thanks - Brad
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Re: Charles Joseph Huard, Nice France

Bradley Kassian  (View posts) Posted: 25 Aug 2009 4:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: huard, Gautier
I'll attach a few more files of records I have. - Brad
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Re: Charles Joseph Huard, Nice France

Bradley Kassian  (View posts) Posted: 25 Aug 2009 5:05PM GMT
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And heres a few more. Hope these will help.
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Re: Charles Joseph Huard, Nice France

Bradley Kassian  (View posts) Posted: 25 Aug 2009 5:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: huard, Gautier
here are the last records I have
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Re: Charles Joseph Huard, Nice France

Bradley Kassian  (View posts) Posted: 25 Aug 2009 5:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: huard, Gautier
oops make these the last two.
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Re: Charles Joseph Huard, Nice France

Soospad  (View posts) Posted: 26 Aug 2009 12:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for the info, Brad, I'll see what I can find.

I don't know if you know the history of Nice. I knew some but when I started searching for my relatives. When I started having problems I read up on it. After that I had to approach doing research there in a whole new way. This should also give you an idea of why you're having problems.

First, when someone said they were from Nice (Nizza) they could mean the town or the province. You can see the problems that poses right off - lol.

Then there's it's crazy history. The province changed hands, size and language many times starting with the Roman Empire - I won't go into them all. In 1713 it belonged to Savoy. From 1744 to 1748 it belonged to the French and Spanish. In 1775 it was part of Sardinia. In 1792 the First French Republic had it (and used the crazy Napoleonic calendar so dates can be a challenge). In 1814 it was back to being part of Sardinia-Piedmont. In 1860 it was once and for all ceded to France.

As for it's geography - some parts of Italy used to be part of the province, so did Monaco and San Remo. The language was Latin for a very long time, then Italian, then French, back to Italian, and so on and finally just French. The names of towns would change with the language: Nice/Nizza, Castillon/Castiglione, and so on. Sometimes they refer to places by ancient and/or Latin names that bear no resemblance to any modern name, so cannot be found. Peoples' names changed: Giovanni/Jean, Joannes-Baptista/Jean-Baptiste, and so on.

Finally there are just the changes to the town of Nice itself. For instance, Saint-Dominique, the parish your great-great-grandmother was from, no longer exists and a few tiny villages that used to be separate are now part of the city.

I've gotten pretty good at the ins and outs of searching the province so I hope I can help. One thing for sure, the French kept great records so they're out there somewhere.

Re: Charles Joseph Huard, Nice France

Soospad  (View posts) Posted: 26 Aug 2009 6:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
I must be missing something because I only see France on the census - I don't see Nice, France.

Re: Charles Joseph Huard, Nice France

Bradley Kassian  (View posts) Posted: 26 Aug 2009 6:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Huard, Gautier
Terribly sorry, Nice was stated on the death certificates for Charles Joseph Huard and his sons including his son Louis Huard(my great grandfather). It has been stated that they came from Nice, but I have had my suspicions that perhaps they emigrated out of Nice but lived in the surrounding area in the Alpes-Maritimes region. Charle's first three of his children were born in the region. I would imagine they were born close by to their mothers family geographically. I know for sure that Eulalie lived in Nice, and that her parents lived in Menton and Nice during their lifetime. In fact her parents were married in the Saint-Etienne parish on 10 May 1851.I found the record for that. As for Charles Joseph Huard all I can say is that he must have lived in the surrounding region. I'm sorry it makes it difficult, just wish I had more to go on.
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