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Looking for relatives of Hatchie Family.

Ikaika Anderson  (View posts) Posted: 5 Mar 2011 2:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 5 Mar 2011 7:40AM GMT
Surnames: Hatchie, Kahoonei, Kakoi, Kapeemu
I am trying to find any and all information possible on the Hatchie and Kahoonei family. Best I can discover is that I am descended from Eliza Kahoonei and Paul Hatchie which are my grand parents and looking for any information possible on either side. I know Eliza is supposedly from Waimea, Kauai, however, haven't found a birth certificate, or anything else aside from her 2nd marriage to Henry Aimoku, and her eventual death in 1992 in Waianae.

Also if there are family reunions for either side would love to know when and where to be able to meet the family I've never known.

Mahalo for any and all help.

Re: Looking for relatives of Hatchie Family.

judyartley53  (View posts) Posted: 19 Nov 2011 1:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Hatchie, Kahoonei
Hi,
I'm not sure if this is your Paul Hatchie or not. In 1920 this Hatchel family was living in Honolulu, Honolulu, Hawaii Territory. The Hatchel surname was corrected to Hatchie.
Kenno Hatchie, b. HI, 27, widower, laborer odd jobs, head household.
John, brother, married, b. HI, 30, laborer odd jobs.
Marthe, sislaw, marr b. HI, 33.
Peter, cousin [but I think all of the children were neices and nephews of Kenno], b. HI, 10.
Okame, b. HI, 9.
Paul Hatchie, b. HI, 5.
Chulako, b. HI, 3 3/12ths.
Sister, b. HI, 1 1/12.
Kenana, b. HI, 5.
Akina, b. HI, 34.

In 1930 Paul was living in Waialua, Honolulu, Hawaii Territory.
John Hatchie, head household, b. HI, 41, widower, fisherman deep sea.
Kapano, brother, b. HI, 40, marr, fisherman, deep sea.
Paul, son, b. HI, 15.
Kepano Jr., nephew, b. HI, 16.

Eliza and Paul must have married after 1930. You can order a copy of their marriage license from the Hawaaii Dept. of Health, Vital Records, http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/index.h... .

I checked Ancestry, Family Search and HeritageQuest but I didn't find anything about Eliza except for her death info where she died May 1992 in Haianae, Honolulu Co., Oahu on May 1992.

There is an obituary volunteer for the state of Hawaii at freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~obit/volhi.html .

I'd also request a copy of Eliza's obit and check for other family members. Maybe I'll be able to find more information on them. Successful Searching!

Re: Looking for relatives of Hatchie Family.

judyartley53  (View posts) Posted: 19 Nov 2011 1:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi again,
Paul Hatchie
Born: 1 Sept. 1914
Died: Honolulu, Oakhu, Hawaii, Aug. 1982.
Source: U.S. Social Security Death Index

Just thought you might want to add this to your database.

Henry Aimoku
Born: 8 Aug. 1917
Died: Honolulu, Oahu, Hawaii, Sept. 1982
His soc. sec. # was assigned to him in Hawaii.
Source: same as above.

Re: Looking for relatives of Hatchie Family.

RBestrom7380  (View posts) Posted: 19 Nov 2011 6:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Since Eliza's birth date wasn't identified, I searched for it first:
The Social Security Death Index:
Eliza K. Aimoku, born 19 August 1914, died May 1992, "last residence" Waianae, Honolulu (Oahu), Hawaii. Her SSN, 575-20-8471 was issued in Hawaii before 1951.
--The "last residence" on the SSDI is NOT necessarily where a person actually
lived or died. The Social Security Administration calls it simply the "home
of record." It is not necessarily where any benefit was paid to the person,
survivor, or the lumpsum death benefit (in 1972 was paid to anyone paying
burial expenses, family member, funeral home, city/county, attorney). It is
sometimes the location where the notification of death was sent to the SSA,
sometimes where the lump sum death benefit was sent.
--If you do not know the names of her parents, she would have identified them on her application for this SSN (at least the persons she identified as being her parents). You can obtain a copy of the actual application.
http://genealogy.about.com/od/online_records/a/ss5_request.h...

Your grandfather, from your website: "Paul Hatchie, who's mother was Martha Kuluwaimaka Kapea(or Kapeemu - ancestry and the LSD sites can't determine which one it is)." I'd suggest also obtaining his application, that would also identify who he identified as his parents.

US Census:
For last name: Kahoonei (Kaho'onei), the 1930 Census had a Helen, age 17 at Waimea, Kauai, dau of Peter and Klia. This Helen would have been born about 1912/1913. The 1920 Census did not show Helen.
This Helen is shown in a family tree:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/2902704/person/-1803998684?ss...=
The tree shows other females identified as being "private." This term is identified when a person can not be identified as having died. So, it is "possible" Eliza was one of the females. You can contact the owner via Ancestry.com if you have a subscription, if not you might use your library card at your local libraries computer system if they have the library version. But since (Below) indicates you have an account, contact the owner.
--There was a "Private" family tree that DID include Eliza. I sent a message to the owner of this tree to read this thread, help if possible.
---I then found your own "Private" family tree. There is enough information shown to realize the Peter and Klia are probably the parents of Eliza. But, why was she not in the 1920 Census with them? Was she adopted?

The family search org has the birth data of Eliza:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record...
---This identifies her parents as William Moku Kaea Kahoonei, mother Holokai Kamaile Helen (?). Marriage to Henry Aimoku.
--The Social Security Death Index shows a William M. Kahoonei, Jr. born 7 Nov 1914, died 2 June 2000 "last residence" Waianae, Honolulu, HI. If this IS the son of the same man... We have the Hawaiian versus of Arnold Schwarzenegger. I do find this name also on your "private" family tree.

So, it appears you have taken the steps to find this family. Your research would be in HI. Records there are "private" but you being a grandson might have access.




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