I am looking for the following people in the indexes, if anybody could look for these names I would greatly appreciate it.

Adam Deubel b ~1839 d ~1883.
Wife Louisa (Elizabeth?) Flagg Deubel, b ~1850 d ~1882.

They were married in Sep 1868 in St Paul's German Evangelical church in Cincinnati, and unfortunately the records from that church are in terrible condition on microfilm, and are also in German.

Family legend has it that Louisa died in 1882 and Adam committed suicide in 1883. Their youngest son (b1880) grew up in an orphanage and never knew their names, so it was a great discovery to even find them. I have been unsuccessful in locating their burial place(s).

Also possible spellings of Duebel, Dubel (with an umlaut).

Any assistance is greatly appreciated

The indexes for these newspapers are online at HCGS.org. I found Louise nee Flieg there, suspect that's your Louisa but the bad news is both the Volksblatt and the Freiepresse are German language newspapers. The obit will be in German. I'll be glad to look it up for you and can probably give you the gist of it. I'll be going to the library later this week. I didn't see Adam in the index but I can check it out. Also there are some cemetery books that may help.

Apologies, I forgot my friend had logged in on my computer.

I very much appreciate your assistance in finding the index on the HCGS website. I should be able to get down to the library sometime this week and hopefully get copies of the Volksblatt or other newspapers. Unfortunately the index on hcgsohio.org doesn't list a year, it just lists a decade for Louisa. But having that alternate spelling is definitely helpful.

THanks again

I find that site confusing, too. In fact I even had the web address wrong - it's hcgsohio.org - then select "Databases" from the menu on the left, then "record index."

If you are going to the Downtown branch of the Cincinnati Library they have the indexes in book form (both in the genealogy department and in the newspaper archives). The book will tell you the exact date and even the page the obit is on. And the librarians are very helpful. You'll probably recognize the name, it will look a bit different but not so much so that you won't pick it up.

One caution, these are written in an old style German (sort of like the old english where they used what looks like "fs" when they meant "ss." People who speak and read current German sometimes struggle with it.

Good luck!

Hi, I have the index for the Cincinnati Volksblatt and didn't see a listing for either Adam or Louisa Deubel. Also checked under the other spellings of the name and didn't find anything.

I did find the marriage info in Restored Hamilton County, Ohio Marriages 1860-1869 - Adam Deubel married Louise Flagg on September 2, 1868 at St. Paul German Evangelical Church.

I have indexes for Vine Street Hill Cemetery and Wesleyan Cemetery on a CD and didn't find anything for them there.

I did find one thing that may be of interest. In the Hamilton County, Ohio Church Burial Records 1870-1879 by Jeffrey Herbert there is a listing for a Barbara Deubel who could be one of their children who does not show up on any census:

Barbara Deubel
Parents are Adam Deubel and Louisa Flech (another variant of her maiden name?),
Burial date - January 12, 1876
Death date - January is all that's shown
Age - 2
Church - St. Francis Seraph (this is a catholic church but they were married in a German evangelical church?)

I'm pretty sure there is also a book at the library covering church burials for the 1880s. The library also has indexes for Cincinnati deaths and, again, I think there's a book covering the early 1880s. If a death certificate was issued, you would find them in this book and it would give the name of the cemetery.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

You guys have both been such a great help. I've been down to the library twice in the last two weeks and each time spent a few hours there, only finding one or two bits each time. This last time, on Sunday, I did find their marriage record and was surprised to see it was in an Evangelical church; after their deaths their son went to St Aloysius, a Catholic orphanage, and the family has all been Catholic to my knowledge.

I've had someone check at the St Mary's and St John's cemetery records with no luck. I know there were other Deubel/Dubel/Duebel families in St Bernard at the time and hoped to find a relation.

I've also found Adam in the Cincinnati directory up through 1882 and not after, which would fit with the belief that he died around then.

This is now the 4th different spelling of her last name that I've found. On one child's death record it is Flegale, on another it's Flagg. On the church record it's Flagg (albeit an old, dilapidated microfilm of a terribly old, dilapidated record) and then in the Cincinnati Gazeteer it's Fleig. Then on this burial you found it's Flech.

This is my major brick wall right now, so you guys have no idea how much help you have been. Thanks again, so much!!

There are 5 people named Deubel, none of them Adam or Louise, buried at Walnut Hills [German Protestant] Cemetery. The records are online: http://www.walnuthillscemetery.org/Genealogy.html

If this is a duplicate I apologize. I got a message that there was a problem posting my first message so I'm trying again.

I went to the library today and checked on that obit. If you go down it's in the April 10, 1882 edition of the Freie Presse on page 8, column 2.

It reads like this:

Died on Saturday, 8 April at 2:30 in the afternoon.
Louise Deubel, nee Flieg
age 31 years. The funeral will be 10 April at 9 in the morning. The ? husband Adam Deubel
and 6 ? children

I checked the Walnut Hills cemetery book and the Vine Street Hill book because these were popular German protestant cemeteries. I also checked St Joseph new because it was there. I never did find either Louise or Adam. I didn't get to check the Volksblatt index as someone had it and never put it back while I was there.

Good luck with your research. You might want to check with the Blegan library. Ohio didn't issue death certificates until 1908 but deaths were reported and those records can be found at the Blegan library at UC. It's one of the buildings in that circle off of Clifton Avenue. Not hard to find. You can call them at 513-556-1959. Don't know how they'd handle a phone request but they've always been helpful in person.

I actually just saw the very same obit last night. I was sad to find there was so little information on it. A friend of mine speaks german and was able to translate it, but I very much appreciate the effort you put in for me.

I looked in the Volksblatt, Zeitung, and Gazette indexes while I was there. Couldn't find her anywhere except the Freiepresse.

My thought is that Adam might not be in any church record. I have contacted St Aloysius Orphanage and I hope there may be something helpful in his records there, although I doubt it because he spent a good time there and maintained that he didn't know his parents names. I assume the nuns would have told him if they knew.

I'm still hunting and hunting to find her on the 1850 or 1860 census but still very little luck with Flagg/Fleig/Flieg families in Cincinnati.

Thank you again for your help, I deeply appreciate it!

How about Louisa Flaig in Ward 11 in 1860? She was seven, not exactly right but close and ages weren't always listed correctly. (If she was 31 in 1882 she should have been born in 1851 but a lot depends on when her birthday was)

Anyway, that listing is John Flaig, age 32, shoemaker
Catherine, age 39
Theodore, age 4
Susan, age 1 8/12
Louisa, age 7

Sounds possible to me.