I am looking for relatives of the above who emigrated to Australia on the Orontes liner, departing from Tilbury on 9 May 1961 and landing at Canberra. They were originally from Devon....Frederick was born 23 November 1915 and Hazel 18 June 1926. Childrer who also emigrated were
Valerie, Frederick, Stephen, David, Marie and Helena. Any information would be gratefully received.

Hi Angela,
Sadly I note your Post is quite old Angela, I have only "just seen" your Topic Post. I myself have only very recent you could even say just discovered, Hutchings Family Connections, some of which seem to be recorded from a real Tongue Twister of a Village or Township, in County, Devon, England, UK.

Here is the Tongue Twister >>> Bucklandfilliegh, County Devon, England. Perhaps it may ring bells for you.

My Current Documentation of this Hutchings Tree goes right back to the "Year 1600" in County Devon, England, UK !

Isn't that something else, Angela, the Year 1600 and 1630, now if that isn't Pure English History then they can all give it away ?

FIRST KNOWN GENERATION....

The first mention of a Hutchings involving Bucklandfilliegh, County Devon, England, is Documented before my eyes as a Blood Hutchings Person Who was Born abt 1600 and Who Married a Sarah Yeo on the 8th of March 1629 / 1630.

I won't bore you with the rest of the Blood Hutchings Names and Non Blood Hutchings Names Mentioned, Angela, there is quite a List of Names and dd/mm/yy's but on My "First Page" I have 6 Generations Listed.

5th GENERATION - BIDEFORD, COUNTY DEVON ENGLAND UK - YEAR

* There is also mention under the 5th Generation of Deaths in "BIDEFORD" in the 1700's, which appears to also be a Village or Township in County Devon England back in the 1700's Time Frame

Perhaps Bideford, might be a part of your Family Members History ?

GENERATIONS 7 AND 8 - SHEBBEAR, COUNTY DEVON, ENGLAND UK - YEAR 1846

* With the "Second Page" of My Hutchings Ancestors - Descendants Tree Document featuring Generations 7 and 8 I see a mention of a Hutchings Marriage in the Year 1846 in Shebbear, County Devon, England

Or perhaps your Hutchings Family have a Known connection with Shebbear, in County Devon, England ?

GREAT TORRINGTON COUNTY DEVON ENGLAND UK - YEAR 1851

* Again on the "Second Page" under the 7th generation I see a Birth of a Hutchings Sibling in Great Torrington, County Devon England in the year 1851.

Or may be Great Torrington, might be noted somewhere with your Known Family ?

Again on the "Second page" under the 7th and 8th Generation I see a Blood Hutchings Family Members Departure from Plymouth County Devon England UK, on the Vessel called the "Duke of Devonshire" and the Person Disembarking in Australia in 1883.

8th GENERATION - TAVISTOCK - COUNTY DEVON, ENGLAND, UK

* Again on the "Second page" under the 8th Generation I see a Hutchings Marriage in the Village or Township of Tavistock, County Devon, England, UK, n the Year Of our Lord 1870.

Perhaps the Village of Tavistock, maybe be worth looking for in your known tree ?

* Again on the "Second page" under the 8th Generation I see
a Departure from England of the Vessel called the "Royal Dane", which is also quoted as being originally Named the "Sierra Navada", which I see also quoted as the "4th Vessel into The Colony". Arriving in Australia, with a Hutchings on Board in 1870 !

None of the above will be of interest if you have your Hazel Marshall Nee Hutchings Tree already Fully Researched and there is "NO" Hutchings Family Connection with Bucklandfilliegh, and or Bideford, and or Shebbear, and or Great Torrington, and or Tavistock, in County Devon, England, UK.

Sadly though I see "NO MENTION" of a Hazel Marshall or Hazel Hutchings !

As you and I, would both know, there could still be a Connection over in Devon somewhere, between My Hutchings Family Members and Yours, Angela !

Could you briefly inform Me if you hold any interest in the "PLACES" My own Hutchings Family Members came from :

* Bucklandfilliegh, County Devon, England.
* Bideford, County Devon, England.
* Shebbear, County Devon, England.
* Great Torrington, County Devon, England.
* Tavistock, County Devon, England.

By Reply to My Reply to Your Own Topic post. I have to leave the above still brief info in your hands.

BUT.... "if" ..... I find a Firm Connection, I will put a Further Reply to your Topic Post. If that's OK with You. I'm probably like your Good Self, absolutely snowed down, and snowed under with New Firmer Data to have to go through and "NEVER" enough hours in the day to get to it.

Thank You, so very much for Posting, and I wish You, Many Good Outcomes with Your Continuing Research.

Kind Regards
john[pop]

Hi again Angela,
Would you be so kind as to give me Hazel Marshall Nee Hutchings Parents Names, [if possible] and Her Dad's Parents Names, over in Devon, even as far back as you can go along the Hutchings Bloodlines, if possible.

Look, lets be Honest, there could be a lot more than One Hutchings Tree in Devon County, and bluntly, I don't know,,,, .... yet, how many there were back when !

These old, old Families of England, can sometimes be a Tangled Mess, and even that's a Total Understatement of the Real Truth !

Many thanks...
cheers for now
pop john

Hi,
So your Family Members came from Black Torrington.... correct ?

Black Torrington and little Torrington were little Market Towns back when !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Torrington

Perhaps some of these are yours See the attachments

cheers
pop john

Hi Angela,
I'll attach My Hutchings Family Connections, in 2 Separate Replys as Part 1 and Part 2 [ ancestry server doesn't want the 4 all in one go] I have a feeling it's too close to call, with Great Torrington involved.

Let me know when you go through the Attached Images


cheers
pop john

Hi Angela,
Here is Part 2

Again I will say with Black Torrington and Great Torrington involved, I would think it is tooooooo vlose to call.

Plus Hutchings back to the year 1600, you could almost believe We are really looking at the "START" of the Hutchings Line in County Devon, England. From which all other Hutchings Families began.

NOTE : Please note the Researcher notes there could be a "break / or yet not found Hutchings Blood Families".

There is more but lets leave it at this, till I heave from Your Good Self !

Just one question, you posted in the NT Forum, you believe that you may have Marshall Family Connections in the Northern Territory ?

I'm interested because I also have Marshall Family Connections, but NOT, as far as I know in the NT !

Kind Regards
pop john

Hi

I haven't been on here for a while so it was a surprise to get your message. I originally posted with the aim of trying to find my Mum's birth family (rather than compile my family tree), however, I did collect some information along the way, however, some of it is a bit scant. I have since found my Mum's family (via Friends Reunited if you ever!). The information that I posted originally about their emigration is correct and they currently live in Bowen, Queensland, Australia. Sadly Hazel and her husband Frederick Marshall have both passed away but Mum has 6 half brothers and 3 half sisters.

It appears that my Hutchings family originated from North Devon, mainly Thornbury and Black Torrington. I am aware of the other places you stated (as I live in South Devon), however, they do not appear on my tree, however, bear in mind that I have information missing in places.

My Mum's birth mother Hazel Mary was born in Thornbury 18/06/1926.

Her father was Samuel John Hutchings (known as Jack). He was born in Torrington 08/08/1898.
Her mother was Gladys Mary Wonnacott Gliddon. She was born in Thornbury 27/11/1896.
Jack was a farmer at the family farm (Forda) and also worked at Thornbury Post Office with his wife.


Her grandfather was Samuel Walter Hutchings. He was born in Torrington 1876.
Her grandmother was Lydia May. She was born Bradford 1878.

I have data going back to c1620 which starts with a John Huchings, however, as said my research regarding the Hutchings tree has taken a back seat since I found the family.

I am currently searching for my Mum's father, Domenico Albani, who was a WWII Italian prisoner of war based at Holsworthy POW camp.

I hope the information will be of some use to you.

Regards
Angela.

Regarding my tree, I have the information I gathered on Genes Reunited under the name Angela Symons. I don't know whether you are a member so you can request access to my tree.

Hi Angela,
Thank You so much for Posting your Angela, If nothing else your Good Self and I will "raise", the Profile of the the Hutchings Family Name in the Great Torrington, Little Torrington and Black Torrington Areas, a little more !

Interestingly enough I have a firm Marshall Family connection, I have not yet got to tracing the Connection in Queensland Australia, back in time to it's beginnings, so who knows !

[quote]I have data going back to c1620 which starts with a John Huchings[/end quote]

A John "Huchings", one of those many record name errors perhaps or "Hutchings" became the Error. God these errors are the Bane of our Research Lives !

Correct me if I'm wrong but Black Torrington, Little Torrington, Great Torrington and Torrington are all in the same General Area and NOT that separated by great Distance ?

I have a John and a Samuel in My Hutchings Tree also, but as You and i both know, again "Common Naming Conventions", are another Bane of our Lives !

But still, somewhere, "hidden way", either way back when, in the 1600's, 1700's or in the 1800's there may be a connection, between our Families, we can all in hope, our Angela !

I note you mention of Holsworthy POW camp, in the UK, regarding an Italian Family Member !

I have only very, very, recently through my Own Research got the shock of my life having found my very, very, First Italian Family Connection. They were the Forno Family, one of whom, if not others Migrated to Australia and appear to come from Belaforte, Monferrato, Italy.

The results of Historical Family Research never fails to amaze Me, Angela !

I "will" make a note of your Kindly Infos given, re your Hutchings Family Angela. If I find something that gets close as I'll give your a very quick PM [Private Message].

Ooops i nearly dun forgot, I have other Devon Family Related Connections, a Thomas and Mary Smith Nee Fookes from Stoke Lane St Andrews, Plymouth, County Devon, England, Thomas was a Commercial Traveler and Seller of Fish, Smith and Fookes being but two. Eliza but one of their Siblings was the second half of the duo that began my English Couper Family in Queensland back in the 1800's in Australia !

I'm tending to believe that the English "Couper" was originally the English "Cooper" in Northumberland as I have a very firm Percy Family Connection, so, putting two and two together, the Couper / Cooper Family way back when were probably In Service as Barrel Makers[Coopers] to the well known Percy Family in Northumberland. As there were "Coupers" born in that county as well !

If you have any Cornwall Connects let me know by PM, I've got the odd couple of biggies myself, that are very solid. Who knows !

ooops here's another, George Henry Hawkins out of Winterborne Kingston, Dorset, Son of Henry and Charlotte b 9th Nov 1834

I've got tons more Families, I've discovered, they are become Plague Like in Numbers,,,but, they are still Land Locked to Australia, till I get to them all. There might be a lot of surprises then, I'll drum ya !

Better go otherwise I'll be here till "Kingdom Then" !

Thanks again, Great Blessing and Good Luck with Your Further Research.

cheers for now
pop john

ps. You are Very Welcome to PM me if I can help with more info, at any time.

Some more info for you. I know it's a bit vague but it might be of help. Obviously I have details of brothers/sisters, but far too much to include here.

Starting with Hazel's great grandfather and working back:

Samuel Hutchings 1840-1893 Black Torrington married Fanny Hocking born c1840 Devon

John Hutchings 1803-1883 Black Torrington married Mary Petherick 1803-1874 Devon

Arthur Hutchings born c1740 Devon married Joanne Batishill born ?

John Hutchings born c1710 Devon married Joan ? born c1710

Arthur Hutchings born c1665 Devon married Joanne Hooper born c1680

Arthur Hutchings born c1640 Devon married Suzanne Browne born c1640

John Huchings born Thornbury Devon c 1620

Great Torrington/Black Torrington etc are in close proximity to each other as are Thornbury, Shebbear/Buckland Filleigh, Bideford and Forda Farm (Holsworthy) http://www.fordafarm.com/Farm.htm. Tavistock is a bit further away and is closer to my home town of Plymouth. You can get more info at http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/

Best wishes
Angela