Hi Debbie,
Thanks for your reply and interesting information. I did make a mistake reading the postings. When I read the one from Andreas, I was thinking that I was still reading your first posting.
I have a German friend, Erich Nirschl (Munich) [no relative] that helped me track down the information I have on Sitter/Fastner. He wrote to the various offices to gather the information that I have. I received certified copies typed in German and Czech. Since I am unable to put the accent marks on the Czech, I will give you the info without the accents. Info from: CR - STATNI OBLASTNI ARCHIV 379 11 TREBON
PhDr. Vaclav Rames reditel Statniho oblastniho archivu
Vyrizuje: PhDr. Marie Safarova
Tel: 384 721 346,511
Fax: 384 722 379
email:
soatb@tiscali.czSnatek (mariage) Vaclay Fasner (Fastner) a Apolonia Sitter:
Tag, Monat und Jahr der Trauung: 21 November 1797
Braeutigam: (Wentzl Fasner aus Neumichlhuetten
Alter: 21 Jahre
Stand: ledig
Braut: Apolonia Sitterin, des Joseph Sitter and
Katharina, Mutter eheliche Tochter
Haeuslers aus der Neumichlhuetten,
Winterberger Herrschaft
Alter: 21 Jahre
Stand: ledig
Matrika oddanych rimsko-katolickeho farniho uradu Novy Svet, svazek 7, 1788-1846, strana 112, por.c.neuvedeno.
To avoid the long print out, in the birth records
Narozeni (birth) Johann Sitter
born 26 Mai 1796
Mutter: Apolonia Sitterin (no father listed)
It is assumed that Wentzl Fastner was the father, as she married him the next year. Interesting as Johann's family name was not changed from Sitter to Fastner. So, the name Sitter was carried down the line into my family line, instead of Fastner.
According to Andreas information in his posting, Wenzel and Apolonia had another son, Ignatz born 20 years later. ????
Andreas year dates for Wenzl and Apolonia did not match what I received from the Archives. In the old writings, it is tough to decide if it is a 1 or a 7.
Wentzl and Apolonia are my great, great, great grandparents.
Some other family names that I received information on were: Haselberger, Koschka and Bredl.
The decendants of Fastner/Sitter (Ignatz Sitter and 3 children migrated across the border to the Grafenau area of Bavaria and later to America. Ignatz's daughter, Amelia was my grandmother Nirschl.
I don't believe I will be doing any research in Bohemia. Just interested in seeing that general area where the Faster and Sitter lived.
When you try to get my family tree on the internet, you might try typing the URL in this way:
http://www.nirschl.usI just did it and it worked fine. Once you click on the little green tree, it take a little time to open, so wait about a minute or two.
Thanks again for your information. Sounds like you had a fantistic trip over there. You found a lot of Fastners. I found the same when investigating the Nirschl name just across the border in Bavaria. Found quite a few and unable to apply all to my family line. It sure was great and I have many Nirschl fiends in Bavaria, realated to some and some not. I did most of my research in the 1960s and early 1970s when working in Germany.
Do you read and write Czech and/or German? I used to be pretty good in German, but lack practice and have forgotten most.
You sure are welcome to use my email address, if it is simplier.
philip2u@aol.comHave a great day. Philip