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OGLE / BURGESS / OVERLAND - Seneca Twp, Haldimand

OGLE / BURGESS / OVERLAND - Seneca Twp, Haldimand

Amy Parker (View posts)
Posted: 26 Aug 2001 12:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Ogle, Burgess, Overland, Lymburner
I am seeking information on the following siblings (?)

Oliver Ogle b. 1851
Samuel Ogle b. 1854
Ellen Ogle b. 1851??

In the 1871 census of Seneca Township, Haldimand Co., Ontario, Canada ... they were living as follows:

Oliver lived with John and Mary Overland and attended the Primitive Methodist Church. Oliver would have been about 20 years old. Where they related to each other?

Samuel and Ellen Ogle were living with John & Mary Burgess. Samuel was about 17 and Ellen about 20 at the time. They attended the Anglican Church of England. Where they related to each other?

I am going with the assumption that Oliver, Samuel and Ellen are siblings and that they were likely orphaned and staying with strangers or family members of some sort. Or was Ellen a wife of Samuel, who died. My family only know Oliver and Samuel .. Ellen is only a name we found in the census and are unclear as to her relationship. Sam and Oliver never talked about a sister to anyone's knowledge.

Oliver gets married in Lincoln Co., Ontario in 1883 to Mary Elizabeth Lymburner. By 1899 Oliver and his wife Mary and his brother Samuel move to Harbor Beach, Michigan (where they all died) I do not know what happened to Ellen.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Amy N Parker
AParker286@aol.com

Re: OGLE / BURGESS / OVERLAND - Seneca Twp, Haldimand

Posted: 6 Jun 2015 6:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
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Thanks, Amy

Re: OGLE / BURGESS / OVERLAND - Seneca Twp, Haldimand

Posted: 6 Jun 2015 3:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
By 1861, the Ogle children were orphaned & farmed out with different families.

On the Seneca Tp., Haldimand County census were:
Jonathan/John Ogle (died 1877 Chatham Ontario)
Oliver Ogle (died 1917 Michigan)
Ellen Ogle (died 1873 Chatham Ontario)
George Henry Ogle (died 1904 Harwich Tp., Kent Co., Ontario)
Samuel Ogle (died 1926 Michigan)

Through different records, their parent's names were Oliver Ogle and Margaret (see below for variants of her maiden name). Oliver Jr.'s death register has his parents born in Ireland but Samuel's death register has them born in Canada. I could find nothing more on them.

1861 Ontario Census Dist. 2 - Seneca Township, Haldimand County, pg. 26
John Overend Yeoman b. Ireland 57 married
Mary Overend b. Ireland 60 married
James Overend b. Ireland 29 single
Robert Overend b. Ireland 20
Thomas Overend b. Ireland 19
Margaret Fulton b. Canada East 18
Jonathan Ogle b. Canada West 13 (may be John listed separately below)
Samuel Ogle b. Canada West 6

Same 1861 census as above, pg. 21 -
Oliver Ogle b. Canada West 9
Ellen Ogle b. Canada West 11 with family of John Burgess b. Ireland 55 & wife Mary 56 b. Ireland

Same 1861 census as above, pg. 34
John Ogle b. Canada West Shoemaker 14 is with family of Andrew Williamson 50 b. Scotlqnd Shoemaker & Margaret Williamson 50 b. Scotland plus others

Same 1861 census as above, pg. 35
George Ogle 18 b. Canada West is with the family of John Hamilton b. Ireland age 33 & wife Waity Hamilton 25 b. Ontario

On the 1861 Census there is a family headed by James Ogle & wife Sophia, both b. England, children b. Ontario

Name: John Ogle
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Apr 1870
Event Place: Chatham, Kent, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Year (Estimated): 1845
Father's Name: Oliver Ogle
Mother's Name: Margaret Ogle
Spouse's Name: Ellen Jane Brown
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 25
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1845
Spouse's Father's Name: William Brown
Spouse's Mother's Name: Eliza Brown

Death register -
Name: Ellen Jane Ogle, disease of the heart
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1845
Birth Place: Canada
Age at Death: 28
Death Date: 11 Feb 1873
Death Place: Town of Chatham, Kent, Ontario, Canada
informant: John Ogle, Shoemaker (my note - her brother)

Name: John Ogle
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 01 Jan 1877
Event Place: Chatham, Kent, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Birth Year (Estimated): 1846
Father's Name: Oliver Ogle
Mother's Name: Margaret Ogle
Spouse's Name: Flora Powell
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1857
Spouse's Father's Name: James Powell
Spouse's Mother's Name: Eliza Powell

Name: John Ogle, Shoemaker
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1845
Age at Death: 43
Death Date: 16 Apr 1888
Death Place: Town of Chatham, Kent, Ontario, Canada
informant: Hugh Neilson

Name: George H. Ogle (George Henry Ogle married Ellen Jane Miller about 1865)
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 09 Apr 1904
Event Place: Harwich Tp., Kent Co., Ontario
Gender: Male
Age: 61
Birthplace: Co. Haldimand, Ontario
Birth Year (Estimated): 1843

Find a Grave - information for George H. Ogle, wife Ellen Miller, children: John Henry, Olvier, George Alexander, Margaret Ann & Thomas James -
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=48...

Tree for George H. Ogle on Ancestry:
http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/33222580/person/29786761169

viewable death register in on Seeking Michigan:
http://seekingmichigan.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/col...
Name: Oliver Ogle
Gender: Male
Death Date: 22 Jul 1917
Death Place: Harbor Beach, Huron, Michigan
Age: 65yrs 11 mos 20dys
Birth Date: Aug 2 1851
Birthplace: Ontario
Occupation: Laborer
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Father's Name: Oliver Ogle b. Ireland
Mother's Name: Marguerete Hoyes/Hayes b. Ireland

viewable death register is on Seeking Michigan -
http://seekingmichigan.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/col...
Name: Samuel Ogle
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 25 Oct 1926
Event Place: Harbor Beach, Huron, Michigan, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 72
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1853
Birthplace: Canada
Birth Year (Estimated): 1854
Father's Name: Oliver Ogle b. Canada
Mother's Name: Margrett Hattie/Hothe? b. Canada
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