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New Orleans Ybarzabal

Posted: 2 May 2007 4:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Ybarzabal, Velasquez, Estaban or Estevan
I'm looking for more information about the Ybarzabal family listed in the 1870 US Census in New Orleans. The father is listed as Michel which should be Miguel, I believe. The first two children Alice, who may be my greatgrandmother and Josephine may have been listed with their mother Felician as surname Velasquez on the 1860 census which would fit with family stories that Ybarzabal was her stepfather. By the time my ggrandmother got married, she was using the surname Esteban, which we believe was her father's name. I'd appreciate any information about the Ybarzabal family, especially the Esteban connection or any information on what happened to Josephine. Thanks.

Re: New Orleans Ybarzabal

Posted: 4 Sep 2010 2:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, I just found your question about ybarzabal. My great, great grandfather's name was Miguel Ybarzabal. He was married to a lady named Feliicana Belasquez. (I noticed you wrote Velasquez...one of must be right! I don't know for sure if it was a B or a V. According to the family history I have, She was born around 1834 and died on June 1, 1897. She died in New Orleans. I am not sure where she was born. I do not have the birth or death of Miguel. His daughter, Mary E. Ybarzabal was my grandmother's mother. She died in childbirth in 1909. She had a lot of children. I can give you their names if you are interested. Mary E. Ybarzabal was married to Joseph F. Ebeyer

Re: New Orleans Ybarzabal

Posted: 4 Sep 2010 4:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Velasquez, Belasquez, Esteban, Estevan
Hey! We're cousins, sort of. Since my great grandmother, Alice or Alicia, was the child of Feliciana's first marriage (his name was apparently Esteban but I don't know much else about him) we're not actually blood relatives. I've found her maiden name spelled various ways in the official records and the 1850 census lists her as unable to read or write so she may not have known how to spell it herself. The census records all agree that she was born in Mexico. I'd love to have any information you have on her or her children. I'm particularly interested in her daughter Josephine who was a full sister to my great grandmother. I'd also like to know if you know the name of the town Miguel Ybarzabal came from in Spain.

Thanks for replying! I honestly had forgotten that I posted this question it was so long ago.

Re: New Orleans Ybarzabal

Posted: 4 Sep 2010 7:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi
I am so glad you were still doing this. I am doing amazon for a short period to try to fill in blanks.
I am afraid I don't have much on your peeps. BUT, I will give you what I have which is less than you do!
Felicianna Belasquez (that is how we spelled it but it could be wrong) married Miguel Ybarzabal. Like you, I saw that Mary had given Mexico as her place of birth. I have Miguels place of birth as Spain.
I have that Felicianna was born about 1834 and died in New Orleans on June 1, 1897
I only have the following children listed for her but maybe her older chidren from her first marriage....which I did not know about....were not living with them.
1. Mary E. "Mamie" Ybarzabal, born April 6, 1872 in New Orleans (she was my g,g, grandmother)
2 Biecenti Ybarzabal, born June 25, 1870
3. Jules Ybarzabal, born Dec.12, 1874

If the dates are correct, she was in her mid thirties when she had her first child with Miguel so she certainly could have been married before.
Her daughter, Mamie, my gggrand...had 9 children and died having the last one.

Did your people grow up in New Orleans? I live in Texas now but all my relatives came to New Orleans from Europe, most around 1850's.

When I start my search again, I will see if I can find anything on your ggrand, Alice or Josephine.

I do not really know how to search the Ancestory site as well as others but I am trying to fill in some blanks so I will look for Alice and Josephine. What was their last name? Did htey live in New Orleans, do you know? Do you know Felicianna's maiden name? That may be helpful. Was Esteban hte first husband's first or last name? I assume that Belasquez/Belasiana/Velasquez was his last name.

Re: New Orleans Ybarzabal

Posted: 4 Sep 2010 9:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
My grandmother, Alice's daughter, was born in Louisiana (Baton Rouge) but moved to Texas after her marriage which is where my mother and I were born. I'm in Oregon these days. What part of Texas?

Feliciana's maiden name was Velasquez according to the 1850 census when she was 19. The next census still has her listed as Velasquez but with three children, Alice, Josephine and Aline. Since I think it's likely she didn't speak much English, I'm assuming that there may have been confusion about her last name when she talked to the census taker. She may have used the Spanish custom where a woman still uses her maiden name even after marriage. My great grandmother always listed her maiden name as Esteban which must have been her father's name. The 1870 census shows Feliciana married to Miguel with children Alice, Josephine, Paul and August so I think Aline must have died young. Paul and August were Miguel's children.

I didn't have a death date for her so that's a good addition. Do you know what your source is for that date?

The Esteban last name has been hard for me to establish. I don't know what Alice's father's first name was. The family story is that his family came from Spain to Cuba where they were in the chocolate business and then he came on to New Orleans from there. Since he came and went between censuses, I don't know anything concrete about him. Someday I hope to spend some time in New Orleans and see if I can find a marriage record or a death certificate for him but I haven't been able to dig up anything on the internet.

Re: New Orleans Ybarzabal

Posted: 5 Sep 2010 12:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
I dug through the records I have and am going to give you things I found, some info a cousin gave me that may or may not be correct and dates that a guy who did my family tree for me wrote.
First of all.....my cousin wrote in a letter that "Mamie", (Felicianna's daughter with Miguel Ybarzabal and my gggrand, had "four brothers, Paul, Vincent, Eddie and Gus". She did not say anything about Felicianna.
However, on the 1870 census, these children are shown for Michel and Feliciana. (by the way, according to that he was born in 1821 in Spain and was a fish salesman
She was born in 1832 in Mexico.)
Alice 16 born approx 1854
Josephine 11 (born approx 1859
Paul 6 (born approx 1864)
August 4 (born approx. 1866)
Then I have a list from somewhere, possibly the 1880 census but I am nto sure. It has three more children for Michel and Felicianna:
Biencenti born June 25, 1870
Mary born April 6, 1872 (died Jan 2, 1909)
Jules born Dec 12, 1874
As I told you, I have never heard about Felicianna being married before but the first four kids may be hers from her first marriage and she had them when she kept them with her, of course, when she married MIguel.
I don't have a date for their marriage.
The date of Felicianna's death says "death volume 113, page 1009

I am going to try to find the 1870 and 1880 census and maybe even the 1860 one and see if there is a Felicianna
Esteban

Are you thinking that Paul and August were children of Miguels from another wife? And, do you know what happened to Felicianna's first husband?

There is a record of a August Ybarzabal and Mary Roux.
They had children born in 1892, 1893, 1896 and 1897 so maybe this was August,the son of Michel's children.

I have some pictures of Mary, I think if you want to see what Felicianna's daughter looked like. Am I correct in assuming that Mary and your relative (Alice? or Josephine? were Mary's half sister?)

We live in Bowie, Texas which is about 70 miles north of Fort Worth but I have many, many relatives in New Orleans. My grandmother had 7 brothers and siters and my mom did as well so there are 27 first cousins for me, most in New Orlenas.
What is your name? And I love Oregon. My best friend lived in Eugene for years and a good friend is a professor in Corvalis. My name, by the way, is Peggy.

Re: New Orleans Ybarzabal

Posted: 27 Jul 2011 4:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
I am looking for the family with the last name of Ybarzabal, I know they were from LA . I am trying to find anyone who is still around. The only name I have is Edward Ybarzabal and I believe he married a Maria.

Re: New Orleans Ybarzabal

Posted: 27 Jul 2011 4:38AM GMT
Classification: Query
I forgot to mention, I also know they owned a business in Chalmette, LA at one time.

Re: New Orleans Ybarzabal

Posted: 27 Jul 2011 6:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
hi, i don't know why I have not seen this post before. It is 2011 and I am just reading this. Do you still need info? My great grandmother was Mamie Ybarzabal from New Orleans. Let me know if you are still doing research and we can contact each other.
Peggy

Re: New Orleans Ybarzabal

Posted: 27 Jul 2011 6:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
hi, are you able to read all the posts? If not, I can send you my info. My grandmothers mother was a ybarzabal. She married a man named Ebeyer. I was in New Orleans this weekend and my mom said that when they were children and asked about Mamie Ybarzabal's ancestory, they were told that no one knew. In one census, it shows that her mother was born in Spain and in one it said she was born in Mexico. So....I don't know how much help I can be. To our knowledge....my grandmother did not know anything about her mother's people. I will try to help you. My grandmother and great grandmother were both born in New Orleans around the Mid-city area. Let me know if this is helpful. I am out of town right now but when I get back to Texas, I can tell you what I know.
Peggy
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