i'm looking for zobels too. mother is joan, g father was frederick, gg father was william, ggg father was georg(e?) and gggg father was johan. originally from posen (posnan) poland and settling in ny ct area. i've got a bible of georg's w/ some b d info. anybody get any further back than johan?
scott
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Do you have an approximate date for your William Zobel? I have a Wm. who had children in the 1860s with the names of Wilhelmina and Henry. From "Prussia".
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Hi Betty, According to his bible, and I believe his handwriting, he was born December 3, 1868. He didn't write where but he recorded that his father George was born March 3, 1833 in Konigsbraun in Strelno Province, Posen. Some of the letters are hard to make out but I think it's Konigsbraun and Strelno. Know him? I'd appreciate any help you could give me. Thanks in advance.
Scott Nelson
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Betty, I should have said his father had brothers who had emigrated earlier, Johan and Jacob. Also William had a brother Henry who had emigrated earlier. My William's mother was Amalie Pechtold Scott Nelson
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My Zobels immigrated to Cinn. The first one listed in 1870 was Philip. From there until the 1920 census the names included: August,Eva,John,John Jr,Rudolph,Kate,WILLIAM in the 1883 city directory,Charles,Fred,GEORG in the 1895 city Directory,Gus,Amelia,Wilhelmina,Albert, Charlotte. Where were your Zobels from?
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My Zobels came from Poland to the New York City area, Queens mostly. The names Rudolph, Eva, Frederick, William, George and Amelia recurring in these two families is suspicious to me but coincidences sure enough happen. Scott
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Do you know where in Poland?
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I told you where Georg(e) was from, Konigsbraun, Strelno Provinz, Posen, and I have no reason to believe William or his father George strayed far from there but they may have. Posen was part of the Prussian empire at that time, I believe. Another distant relative states that immigration records mention children of George, Augusta and Henry, as last residing in Lopienno, Posen and Wyganow, Posen respectively. So did I muddy things further? Scott
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I'm a Zobel with Posen ancestry also. I don't see any common names though.
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It may be of interest to other Zobel's out there, That the Vilage of Hergisdorff just over the hill to the west of Eisleben in the East Hartz Mountains of Germany was home to some 500 Zobels. I believe the last remaining Zobel died in a rest home in a nearby village a few years ago.
Due to the large number of persons with the same family name the Lutheran church ordered a genealogical study be done in the early 20th century to determine if they were all decended from a common ancestor. They were, although an appearently unrelated Zobel family lived in the area for a time.
It was found that the Zobel family was first introduced to the area by Christian Zobel in approx. 1705. Christian was the son of Caspar Zobel of Alterode and was a Huf- und Waffenschmeidemeister, or master blacksmith and weaponsmith by trade. The Zobel family prospered in the area and were mostly in the trades of metalsmithing (as was Martin Luthers family from just over the hill) or mining in the copper/silver mines.
Coincidentally I am the seventh son by direct lineage from Christian.
The church with the Zobel family's covered pew above the chior and a stool for Christian below the Chancel still stands in Hergisdorff as do several family homes on Neumarkt Str. where most of the families lived.
It seems most of the Zobels died out or left the Hergisdorff/Eisleben area in the early 20th century as my own Grandfather (Wilhelm Freidrich Karl Zobel 1869-1938) did moving to East Prussia with a Military posting. I understand my Grandfather never went back to Hergisdorff and seldom spoke of it.
If there is interest I have a copy of the coplete genealogical table as prepared by the church as well as references to an unpublished 1944 manuscript on the History of Hergisdorff.
I am curious to know what the reason for the Zobel Emigration of the time might have been and to establish relationship and an eventual homecoming of Hergisdorff Zobels.
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