Re: yeomans DNA 12 marker test
Have you had the Haplogroup tested? I am in the haplogroup E1a1. I extended the testing out to 47 markers, and some other 12 marker matches have turned out to not match as the additional markers were compared. I do not know of any Lombards or Remys in my background. We, however, can trace our lineage back to Moses Yeomans in Colchester Connecticut ( B 1710 died 1778, NOT the Stonington CT Moses born in 1718). The line dead ends there, and who knows what the ancestry is from there on back.
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Re: yeomans DNA 12 marker test
This is interesting....I have a James Yeamans, Planter, who left a gift of one heifer to James Toone, son and heir of James Toone, Sr., Planter, in Farnham Parish, Old Rappahannock County, Virginia on 01 November 1662. James Toone named his first son James, then another son Kester. There was a Cestor Yeomans transported in 1652 to Virginia, James in 1656, along with others in that period. Old Rappahannock County was formed from Lancaster County in 1656.
My brother originally had the 67 markers tested at Family Tree DNA, then had the Deep Clade testing done next and shows our Tune Haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1b5a, also known as R-SRY2627(also known as M167). The places of highest frequency for this group are Spain (esp. Catalonia), Western France, Cornwall, and Wales. This represents the Catalano-Gascon subclade of the Italo-Celtic group.
This extended testing might have something to bear on the 390=24 marker, as the above explanation lines up with what you wrote about the migration....not sure, as I am a novice when it comes to the Y-DNA.
My brother's test for DYS 393=13; 19=14; 391=11; 439=12; 389-1=13; 389-2=29; 388=12; 390=24; 426=12; 385a=11; 385b=14; 392=13
I'm hoping to make a connection to the Yeoman/Yeaman families in early Colonial Virginia, 1650-1665.
Gloria Tune 8th g. granddaughter of James Toone, 1620/30-1676
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Re: yeomans DNA 12 marker test
This is interesting....I have a James Yeamans, Planter, who left a gift of one heifer to James Toone, son and heir of James Toone, Sr., Planter, in Farnham Parish, Old Rappahannock County, Virginia on 01 November 1662. James Toone named his first son James, then another son Kester. There was a Cestor Yeomans transported in 1652 to Virginia, James in 1656, along with others in that period. Old Rappahannock County was formed from Lancaster County in 1656.
My brother originally had the 67 markers tested at Family Tree DNA, then had the Deep Clade testing done next and shows our Tune Haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1b5a, also known as R-SRY2627(also known as M167). The places of highest frequency for this group are Spain (esp. Catalonia), Western France, Cornwall, and Wales. This represents the Catalano-Gascon subclade of the Italo-Celtic group.
This extended testing might have something to bear on the 390=24 marker, as the above explanation lines up with what you wrote about the migration....not sure, as I am a novice when it comes to the Y-DNA.
My brother's test for DYS 393=13; 19=14; 391=11; 439=12; 389-1=13; 389-2=29; 388=12; 390=24; 426=12; 385a=11; 385b=14; 392=13
I'm hoping to make a connection to the Yeoman/Yeaman families in early Colonial Virginia, 1650-1665.
Gloria Tune 8th g. granddaughter of James Toone, 1620/30-1676
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Re: yeomans DNA 12 marker test
I was really scratching my head over the startling matches on this thread. After testing my son's DNA through the Genographic Project, and knowing that his father's family was said to originate in Spain, this finally gives evidence of Western European origins.
R1b (M343) 393(=13) 19(=14) 391(=11) 439(=11) 389-1(=13) 389-2(=16 uncommen AMH DYS marker?) 388(=12) 390(=24 unusual?) 426(=12) 385a(=14) 385b(=15) 392(=13)
Virtually identical.
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Re: yeomans DNA 12 marker test
My apologies to everybody who has responded. I have been away from ancestry.com for a while as I did not see the value in continuing my account since I hit my proverbial brick wall around the mid 1880s. In your situation I think it's quite unique that you are in a complete different category to the typical Yeomans line, mostly being in the Haplogroup R1b. There is a wonderful lady who is researching the Yeomans lines in Connecticut and her name is Anne Hayes. Unfortunately I can't recall her email address but hopefully she's still lurking around her. She has been an absolute wealth of information for all Yeomans who can trace their ancestry to Connecticut.
If you want to learn more about your ancestry, take the extended marker tests to at least 67. Also, consider Family Tree DNA's Family Finder as a supplemental helper.
Arch
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Re: yeomans DNA 12 marker test
What city does your son's father originate from? I am really doing my best to encourage everybody in SRY2627 and L176.2, and of course the newer Z262 to get at least 67 markers tested. I personally believe there is a strong Gascon or Poitevin connection within my family lineage. If his family comes from any region of Aragonese, Occitan or Catalan influence I wouldn't be surprised. Academic research shows a high frequency of the subclade from Catalonia and in particular around Val d'Aran (Gascon-Occitan).
Arch
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Re: yeomans DNA 12 marker test
My apologies for the late response. Hopefully you are still using these boards. If you have not already done so, I would highly recommend taking the SNP tests offered by Family Tree DNA and joining the SRY2627 project if your results turn out to be what I suspect is a good possibility of SRY2627 or one that strongly relates to Iberia such as DF27. Disregard the DYS390=24 being Jute; this was posted at a time when not a whole lot was known about geographical origins, etc. The fact does remain that Visigothic influence in Western Europe established itself after the fall of Rome and the first Kingdom of Europe; Kingdom of Tolosa. I'm sure you may be well aware that a region called Gothlandia corresponds to ancient Septimania which is old North Catalonia. The Visigoths defeated by the Franks in 508 at the Battle of Vouille near Poitiers pushed south towards Barcelona and their last capital at Toledo just north of Madrid.
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Re: yeomans DNA 12 marker test
Hi Arch,
My great grandfather was Thomas Yeomans of 91 Leyden Street in E.Boston, married to Mary C. Mulvey. He immigrated from Nova Scotia in 1865-67. Are you related to him? His brothers were Daniel, Richard, Henry, and I believe his parents were John and Rosanna.
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