Yaffe, -ee, -ai, Jaffe, -ee, ie spelling variations?
Any idea on the background of this name, or family history?
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Re: Yaffe, -ee, -ai, Jaffe, -ee, ie spelling variations?
I was born a Rosenthal which was a chosen name for Yaffe, possibly Jaffe. He was Russian and hid under a German name. The name change took place in Chicago, date unknown. His son was Harry Wolfe Rosenthal born August =/-1917. If you have any info to help me continue this, I would appreciate it. I will also share with you furthur if I find more.
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Re: Yaffe, -ee, -ai, Jaffe, -ee, ie spelling variations?
I have some possibilities for you, surname spelling JAFFIE. My ex's family misplaced some. I'll get back to hunting them sometime - for my kids. I suggest you use the JAFFE board, I mostly do. That's the one with most activity thus most likely to make a connection.
Phillip & Samuel (twins) Max Joseph. He doesn't remember anything at all about the twins, knows there was another brother but can't remember the name; I believe it is Max, I found them on a hard to read and damaged census once. Next to Joseph - he seems to have abandoned a wife and family and never heard from again, by about 1957 I think I was told. We email.
The not-lost ones are Bess (married an Ed Carson), Eva (Married a Willie Weinberg), Edward, Louis. Louis was a Cook County judge for decades before he retired in the 1960s. There were 11 total children of Russ immigrant "Charles and Rose" JAFFIE; one died at birth and two more in their childhood. I *think* I remember that they came through Germany but then what, I don't know.
Come to think of it there is another mystery man. That census I looked at had only children in a 1900 NY Russian neighborhood (they hadn't partly moved to Chicago yet) and the parents are listed nowhere on that decade's census - and they should have been, they were still alive. Speaking of hiding out. Rose may well have been German.
Why would your JAFF** Russian "hide out" with a German name change, any idea? How did you come to learn about the name change &c? I'm curious!
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Re: Yaffe, -ee, -ai, Jaffe, -ee, ie spelling variations?
NAme change was because he was a prominent political figure, probably a czar of some sort. He was not interested in communism, so when the Russian revolution started, he left. He chose a german name so he would not be found, but because he was a jew, he kept that affiliation.
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Re: Yaffe, -ee, -ai, Jaffe, -ee, ie spelling variations?
Er. Well. This one had been just a soldier, and the last czar gave him official papers to emigrate as the story goes. HE got to the US a few years prior to Ellis Island opening as the immigration center. But everybody has an oral tradition, some are really hard to verify.
That JAFFE forum still seems like a good bet.
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I learned this from my Grandfather, who has been gone since 1982. He used to tell us about some of the family history when we were too young to appreciate it. It wasgrandfather, but I can't remember any more. His details were word of mouth. He said the family line could not be traced because the next generation back was Russian born. He tried to trace his mother's line, but she never had a birth certificate, rural birth at home. The county she was born in, has no record, but he got the information about her birth before she passed. Gramps was born in Chicago.
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In a thrift shop in Reno I found a framed certificate: "The Imperial Council of the Ancient Arabic Order Nobles of the Mystic Shrine for North AMerica ... admits .. . PETER HAROLD YAFFE as a Noble of the Mystic Shriine in Ansar Temple of Springfield, Ill on the 14th of Nov. 1929." Signed, sealed and framed. No. 832151, with his signature "P H Yaffe"
I couldn't let this wonderful piece of genealogy for someone get tossed just for the (inexpensive and scratched) frame, so bought it and will be glad to send it to a descendant who might be interested. Can you help my seach?
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Re: Yaffe, -ee, -ai, Jaffe, -ee, ie spelling variations?
he must have been an arab american who emmigrated to the states. the name Yaffe could be one of the many spelling for an arabic surname that could originally be from the south of arabia in Yemen. My family is from Yafe in yemen, but the clan is too big. it's so big that most people have a surname before the 'yafe' surname, because there are too many yaffes all around the world. if you contact the springfield records in the local library you might find something.
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Thank you. Will do. I rescued the certificate from a Thrift store here in Reno., NV, and think there must be someone who would like to have it who is related..That's what happens when one "gets into" genealogy, right?
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hehe yeah i guess you're right.. but i think that's really sweet of you to care. i hope you do fine some of his relatives, i'm sure they would really appreciate it :)
good luck.
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