OK here is the crux of it, for me.

" Their father, I believe, is our first surmised ancestor Isaac Winner"

Believe...surmised. Your PA Winner is believed and surmised.

What you actually have shown above, is a DNA match between two living men. It sounds like one of them did not provide you their lineage. Their match sounds to be in an Ohio ancestor.

You then surmise that the Ohio ancestor who was born in NJ is related to a man from PA.

How is that "proven?" You haven't proven that the NJ man's father is the man purportedly (is he documented as such?) from PA, let alone a DNA link to the man from PA. Only to the man from NJ/Ohio.

That's why I am concluding it isn't proven, it is still a theory. Why that would make you so angry, I don't understand. But now I have explained my own conclusion, we can call this a day - I hope. Let someone disagree with you for pity sake. Please. Thank you.