Patricia, the info was from the 1880 census and isnot 100% accurate. On the 1850 census the list was : Elizabeth, Mary,, William E., Rufus, Alverson (Alfonso ?), Sarah Ann , John , Frances (Louisa), Mary Ann (Parola), Augustus, and George. Incidently, earlier you had mentioned you knew Barzillas father ? Who was it. ? Bob Eddings.