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Dirk Vroman van Egmond/Huig GERRITS Vroman and Huijch PIETERS Vroman

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Dirk Vroman van Egmond/Huig GERRITS Vroman and Huijch PIETERS Vroman

Posted: 3 Mar 2011 9:38AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi
this connects to a post from 18 Feb. 2011 about Dirk, that post disappeared???
Anyhow here are some connecting notes:

“Vrooman/Vroman/Froman etc.” was a common name , and certainly only some were related.
As to Huych Gerrits Vromman/Vrommen, could you give the excat date, location and source?

The Regionaal archief Leiden shows “Huig Gerritsz Vroman” as widower living in Valkenburg in 1585
There is a recorded “ Huijch Pieters Vroman in 1621,1622”
The patronymics are most important, as they clearly had different fathers and Huijch Pieters is not son of Huig Gerrits. (Sort of like mixing apples and oranges)

The archive in Leiden also has a testament “Pieter Huijgens Vroman in 1622 with a codicil in 1628” (I have ordered a copy) and several recordings for
“Mees Pieter Huijgens Vrooman 1633(some of the Dutch recordings repeat the Christian and patronymic name in a child) and
“Mees Pieters Vrooman,” 1635,1636 , 1648 who is logical “Bartholomeus Pieter Huygens Vrooman” married to Ariaantje Hendrix

Speaking of apples and oranges: There is no known Dirck Vromans van Egmond in the likely ancestry of Hendrick Meesen Vrooman, Note, the location, being Rijburg when the family lived in Valkenburg for generations.
Although, I, too have found other Vrooman coat of Arms,. “Familiewapen Vromans” in Centraal Bureau voor Genealogie names three bearer of Arms between 1667 and 1775, who have no apparent connection to the Hendrick Meese Vrooman family.

The “van” Egmond could easily refers to a “topiem” which is a recorded locality.
Example: Annetje Pietersdr. Vrooman 1582 to 1612 married 19 May 1602 in Valkenburg Laurens Willem Jacobszs (1575-1625) who was son of “Willem Jacobsz Meesz VAN EGMOND” (1545-bef. 1623) There is a document saying “called van Egmond from now on” (meaning “from” not the noble Egmond family)—(The sources for these recordings have been filed away for a long time, but I can find them again, they are all from Dutch websites with Dutch recorded documents)
There are several places called “Egmond”. Also “Egmond-Binnen, Egmond aan der zee” etc.

The “Vrooman Coat of Arms” has not been authenticated. The little differences that you describe are most important in heraldry and can pertain to a completely unrelated Vromans . Every shape, design, color and placement in the field (the shield area) signifies specific information
Great caution should be used with any noble ancestry claims and like or similar surnames.

In a short while I will post a detailed essay about the claimed noble ancestry of the Vrooman family, which will explore some of the myths that have reappeared throughout the years.

Greetings,Barbara
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