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Edward Uhde, Eugene Oregon

Edward Uhde, Eugene Oregon

Posted: 6 Jan 2008 5:44AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Uhde, Riehm, Rhiem.
I am looking information on a long lost relative. Sometime around the turn of the last century (1890 to 1900) my Great Great grandfather's brother is supposed to have moved to the area around Eugene, Oregon, and there are supposed to be living descendants out there today. Edward was married to a woman named Catherine, maiden name Reihm or Rhiem. Both were born sometime near 1850. They had several children in Minnesota, but most of them died as infants or small children. We know for sure of a daughter, Mary who lived. IN Minnesota, they lived in a close family group with Edward's father and mother (wilhelm and Sophia Bertram Uhde) and Edward's brothers Engelbret and Henry. All emigrated from Germany. Have much information to share, and hope to gain a bit of information in return! Thanks in advance!

Re: Edward Uhde, Eugene Oregon

Posted: 28 Feb 2013 7:26AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Uhde
I lived in Eugene in the early 60s and again in the 80s. My dad told about seeing a man on the street in Eugene one time who looked exactly like his father. He always regretted not stopping him to talk. The names you mention are not familiar. My ancestors cam from Wolfenbuttel, Germany. Where did yours come from? Common names in my family at the time of emigration (1866) were Christian, William, Robert, Friederich... There was a brother named Gustav 'Gus' who moved to Reedsport, Oregon early in the 20th century and is buried there.

Re: Edward Uhde, Eugene Oregon

Posted: 28 Feb 2013 8:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
New information has turned up, information that leaves me more confused than EVER BEFORE. I don't want to offend anyone by saying too much before I know everything; unfortunately without asking questions I'm stuck in the "not knowing" place!! No matter how you look at it, this will seem scandalous to someone. You see, Edward's wife and daughter have turned up on the 1900 census in Minneapolis/St. Paul Minnesota. No Edward though. Both ladies are working as domestic help; Catherine is a housekeeper. And, by 1910, Catherine, the wife, is married to someone else. I don't find record of Edward dying, nor do I find evidence of a divorce. I'm not saying that the marriage wasn't legal or whatever - Just because I haven't found the documents, doesn't mean it's not there, just that I haven't found it. Desendants from that line say that Catherine claimed to have run away in the middle of the night with young Mary because of something terribly cruel that Edward had done, leaving the family to believe he was a very abusive person. Then, in Millerville Township, there are two babies buried in two separate cemeteries within a couple of weeks of one another... one in the Catholic cemetery, one in the Lutheran cemetery, and BOTH are registered as children of Edward Uhde. The one in the Lutheran cemetery lists wife Catherine as the mother... I'm still trying to find out who the mother of the other baby is. If they were twins, one delivered earlier than the other, why would they not be buried in the same cemetery? And why the big secret? Then, there's the two very different stories... Catherine, who I can confirm did go to the Twin cities and get married to someone else, who claimed Edward had done something to her to make her run away; and the other story about Edward having descendants in the Eugene Oregon area as late as the 1970s... The only thing that makes sense to me is this: I am wondering if perhaps Edward might have had a fling with someone else, and Catherine ran away with their daughter because he cheated, and she left him. Then, maybe Edward was in love with the other girl, and went with the mother of his other child to Oregon, to escape the scandal. The only problem is that there is no PROOF at this point, only a bunch of clues that point that direction. The only thing that is 100% a fact is that for some reason suddenly they are not living together as a married couple anymore. I don't know. Its so confusing.

My Uhde group came from Braunschweig, from a town called Bornhausen. I know there are records of them listed in the records repository in Wolfenbuttel, which is also in Braunschweig, I believe.

Common names for our branch also include Gustav, Christian, William (Wilhelm), Friedrich and Heinrich.

One of our big problems is that we do not know Edward's whole name. It seems to have been traditional to have at least three names, and use only the one closest to the surname. Like if a modern person had two names plus the surname, but only used their middle name. Its possible that Edward moved west and then used a different name. I just don't know. I'm going to start looking around, to see if anyone knows the names of any of the descendants from Eugene who were in contact with the Uhdes in Minnesota. (I did, she has no idea who those people were, and the one who was interviewed and mentioned this has passed away.) I've got one more person to touch base with, and if they don't know anything, well, I don't know where to turn.

Its just too bad that your Dad didn't stop the stranger in the street, and ask for his name. Of course there are always things like this we regret in our life, things we would like to go back and do over, but can't.

Re: Edward Uhde, Eugene Oregon

Posted: 17 May 2013 8:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Uhde, Riehm, Kleiter
I may have some limited information. Katharina Riehm was a niece to my great-grandfather.I have not heard the stories you mentioned.I guessed that Edward died and Katharina remarried. Maybe I'm wrong. But anyway, Katharina remarried about 1897 to Anton Kleiter and they had 3 children. The 1900 US census I located had the last name spelled Kleider, Anton and Catrina but the rest of the information fits.
Interested in sharing and learning more.

Re: Edward Uhde, Eugene Oregon

Posted: 20 May 2013 1:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
I would love to share information, too. Before this latest round of information, I had assumed that the family stories were correct, that Edward and Katherine and daughter Mary had moved out to Eugene Oregon as I had been told. I'd assumed they died there. I thought finding information would be EASY. (slightly hysterical laughter... I was really wrong about that!) I am aware of the Kleiter marriage and the other children. I was told by one of the descendants that Katherine met Mr. Kleiter when she was working as a housekeeper. She would accept the orders of food and things delivered to the house, and Mr. Kleiter was working for a brewery, delivering beer; and this is how they got to know one another. Its really a sweet story. Yes, I have noticed that, too; that the census documents are often wrong on spelling and such things; but if you can match most details its almost certainly your people.

I still have not gotten an answer from the Millerville Catholic church; I will have to go there (hopefully this summer) and beard them in their den, as it were... I really need to know the identity of the other baby's mother; this will most likely help me in some way to figure out where they have gone to. I also think I should contact the historical society in Eugene, Oregon.

Any little detail you know would help, I think. I wish that Mary had descendants, but she does not. More details there?? She married a guy who was of African American descent... More next message, I just want to get this out to you. We had graduation this past weekend, and I'm a whole week behind on correspondence and house cleaning. Eek. It will take DAYS to get this cleared up! (Though you are probably at the top of my list... this historical digging is fascinating!)

Lisa
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