Udall's from Ellastone UK
I have managed to trace my branch of the Udall's back to John Udall born abt 1616. Where he was born I do not know, but he married Elizabeth Bull at Ellastone. Staffordshire on 9th Nov 1640. The Udalls remained in Ellastone until the end of the 18th century when my branch moved to Handsworth. B'ham. Anyone any clues where this branch of Udalls came from prior to 1616?
Gay Udall-Follows
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Re: Udall's from Ellastone UK
Well done for tracing them back so far - I'm having real difficulties beyond 1850. Where did your Udalls go from Ellastone and Handsworth? Do you have any links with Bury, Lancashire in the 19th century?
Steve Udall
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I had an extremely lucky break, in that I found a distant cousin, whose research bought the Ellastone connection in. You ask if I have a Lancashire connection, well there's a question. The Udalls in my tree nearly all had about ten children, most of whom survived to produce more children. It is inevitable that some of them would move away from their roots. I hope I'm not sounding obtuse, I don't mean to. If you tell me some of the Udall names in your tree, maybe I can find a link with mine. You say that you have got back to 1850, my gt gt gt gt grandfather Ralph Udall was born at Ellastone in 1788, he moved to Handsworth prior to 1813 (he got married then) so your line could be part of the exodus! Good to hear from you, let me know what you think. Gay
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The furthest I can definitely trace is to William Udle (b. 1846 in Bury, Lancashire), son of Charles and Ann. I'm not too worried about the surname spelling, as it has changed a number of times in the last 150 years (Udle, Udel, Udal, Udall), so is likely to have changed a lot before then, too. There is also a possibility that Charles was actually Charles Udial, whose father was William Udial, of the same kind of area, and Ann's maiden name was Barlow, but these are as yet unconfirmed. Do any of these names / dates fit in with yours?
Steve
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Still haven't got any further, I haven't any positive links to Bury etc, but I just have this feeling that my bunch may have come from Crosswaite Cumberland, there certainly were loads of Udalls , Youdells, any other variants, hav you got any further?
Gay
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Sorry - I've drawn an absolute blank - getting just a little downhearted :-( Never mind - I'm sure something will come up eventually.
Steve
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Re: Udall's from Ellastone UK
Well what about Udall's in Leeds 1640! Whilst tracing Yewdall family tree came across Udall. Will hopefully look at birth certificate next week.(10th March) Somehow I think it is a miss-spelling of Yewdall. I will post message on findings. Brian
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Re: Udall's from Ellastone UK
Hi Brian. According to Leverson-Gower, the name began as de Ovedale and de Uvedale at the time of the conqueror,(O and U being the same at that time) ultimately the de was dropped, the name becoming Udall around the 16th century, although some did retain the name Uvedale to this day , they migrated from the Lake District, to Talconeston Norfolk, then to Titsey in Surrey, later to Wickam Hampshire ( close to Dorset) several groups decamping on the way, where you get name variations due to phonetics! Many of them were knights of the realm. This would explain certain things, but doesn't help any of us very much with our research.
Gay
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Re: Udall's from Ellastone UK
Have you researched the family of William Uvedale (Udall) from Himley Staffordshire. They were living in Himley in 1570 and they had a son Jacob who was admitted to Winchester College at that tme. I do not know if they had additional children, but I would imagine they did. If you have the ability to research this family it may bear some fruit.
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Re: Udall's from Ellastone UK
Many thanks for that tip. I am putting together a gedcom of Uvedales, and will certainly investigate William's children. Regards. Gayt
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