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Daniel Tyre b. abt. 1795,father to John Tyra Sr. KY

Daniel Tyre b. abt. 1795,father to John Tyra Sr. KY

Posted: 12 Aug 2000 1:03PM GMT
Edited: 19 Jul 2001 5:26PM GMT
John Tyra Sr. b. abt 1815 d. before 1856 Breathitt, Wolfe Co, KY area. Father beleived to be Daniel Tyre???
John Tyra Sr. md Sarah (Sally) Gibbs Jan. 24, 1836 in Morgan Co. KY dau of John Gibbs and Elizabeth Shepherd.
Any connection would be much appreciated. contact me at:
slager@essex1.com

Re: Daniel Tyre b. abt. 1795,father to John Tyra Sr. KY

Posted: 8 Apr 2007 1:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Tyre, Tyra, Tear, Gibbs, Hollon, Holland, Simpkins
I have been doing some more census research on the possible parents of John, Polly, & Betsy TYRA-TYRE of Breathitt Co, KY.

I think that I have come upon a reasonable and probable set of parents. Based upon the birthdates and marriages of the children and census records:

Elizabeth “Betsy” Tyra, b. 1813 Montgomery Co, VA, d. 15 Feb 1900 Breathitt Co, now Wolfe Co, KY m. abt 1838 Estill Co, KY James HOLLON b. 1819 Morgan Co, KY
(son of George Hollon & Elizabeth Mullins)
1st 3 children said to be born 1839, 1839, 1841 Breathitt Co, KY

John Tyra Sr, b. abt 1815, d. Bef. 1856, m. 24 Jan 1836 Morgan Co, KY Sarah “Sally” GIBBS (daughter of John GIBBS Jr & Elizabeth SHEPHERD) 24 Jan 1836
Performed by John ROSE who remained a neighbor. 1st child James Harvey Tyra b. abt 1836-1837 Estill Co, KY 3rd child Daniel Tyra b. abt 1841 Breathitt Co, KY

Polly Tyra, b. abt 1820 Morgan Co, KY, d. ?, m. 26 Jun 1831 Morgan Co, KY Eli SIMPKINS b. abt 1820 probably Morgan Co, KY (son of ??)
Children: Nancy Simpkins b. Abt. 1833 Morgan Co, KY;
Jane Simpkins b. 24 Jan 1850 KY

Census M=male F=female

1800 Chesterfield, SC – William TEAR – possible father of Daniel Tyre - The is the only TYRE in Chesterfield, SC

1810 Chesterfield District, SC – Daniel TYRE –
3 M under 10 years - who are they?
1 M 26-45 probably Daniel Tyre
1 female 26-45 probably Sarah (maiden name unknown)

1820 Floyd Co, KY – Daniel TYRE –
1M under 10 John Tyre, age 5
1M 18-45 Daniel
1M over 45 possibly Daniel’s father or Sarah's?
1F under 10 Polly
1F 10-16 Elizabeth “Betsy”
1F 16-26 Sarah, wife of Daniel
Neighbors are William Banks, Henry Caudill
This is the only TYRE-TYRA in the county.

1830 Estill Co, KY – Sarah Tyre – head of household
1M 15-20 John Tyre, age 15
1F under 5 ?? Is this an illegit child (?) as Polly was married young in 1931
1F 15-20 Polly
1F 20-30 Elizabeth “Betsy”
1F 50-60 Sally Tyre, widow of Daniel
Neighbors are Andrew Pence, John Banks, John Holland (Hollon), Wm Holland (Hollon), Willis Brewer, William Hatton, David Banks,

1840 Breathitt Co, KY – John TYRE -
1M under 5 James Harvey Tyra
1M 20-30 John Tyra age 25
1F under 5 Polly Sally Tyra
1F 20-30 Sally Gibbs Tyra
1F 70-80 probably Sarah Tyre, Daniel's widow, Neighbors: near John Holland Sr, John Banks, Ambrose Holland, William Holland, Hiram Holland, Jackson Holland, John Holland, Andrew Pence

1850 Breathitt Co, KY, District 2 – John Tyra – age 35
John Tyra age 35 b. KY (1815)
Sally wife age 28 b. KY (1822)
James H. age 13 b. KY (1837)
Polly age 11 b. KY (1839)
Daniel age 9 b. KY (1841)
John age 7 b. KY (1844)
William age 6 b. KY (1843?)
Ebenezer age 5 b. KY (1846)
Eli J. / Elender age 4 b. KY (1848)
Asbury age 1, b. KY (1849)
Neighbors: John GIBBS (parents of Sally Gibbs Tyra) William W. Banks, William Banks, John Banks, John Hatton, John & Charity Holland (mother of William Holland), David Banks.

Conclusions:

Daniel Tyre & Sarah (unknown) had three children, John, Elizabeth “Betsy”, & Polly and maybe 2 Other sons as seen in the 1810 census. The sons do not appear in 1820. What happened?

Daniel died about 1825 when Polly was 5 years old.
That is why Sarah, age 50-60, is the head of the household on the 1830 census.

Sarah also appears as the 70-80 year old in the 1840 Census with son John.

Many of the neighbors are the same from the 1820-1850 census records so I believe that Daniel, Sarah And Son John TYRE/TYRA didn’t move but the county lines changed instead.

This explains why Betsy was likely married in Estill Co in 1938 while John in 1936 & Polly in 1931 wed in Morgan Co, KY. This is also bore out in the birth places of their children.

The birthdates of John, Betsy and Polly fit the age groups.

John Tyra and Betsy Hollon ended up in Breathitt Co, Ky but likely didn’t move but here again the County lines changed instead. See KY county formation dates.

I have the marriage record of John TYRA Jr’s 2nd marriage to Polina Willoughby that states that his father (John TYRA) was born in S. Carolina. This is what led me to check for Daniel Tyre there.

In 1830 there is a child under 5, whose is it? Possibly the child of Polly by Eli Simpkins?

Is there any marriage or death records available for Estill Co, KY for Daniel’s death or the marriage. Of Betsy Tyra to James Hollon? Where is Daniel & Sarah Tyre/Tyra buried?

Can anyone claim Willaim TEAR-TYRE-TYRA of Chesterfield, SC or this Daniel TYRE?

Deborah Slager
Polo, IL

Descendant of John Tyra (1915) & Sarah “Sally” Gibbs

Re: Daniel Tyre b. abt. 1795,father to John Tyra Sr. KY

Posted: 22 Mar 2014 11:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am a St.John and my great-great-grandfather George W. St.John b. 26 April 1825, married Elizabeth Tyre, b. 1860, in 1876 in Owsley, Kentucky. I have been unable to find more information on Elizabeth. I do know they had 10 children. Not sure if this information will help anyone. I would like to find out more about Elizabeth if anyone has any ideas.
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