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Tyerman in Cleveland, Ohio

Tyerman in Cleveland, Ohio

Anne Smith (View posts)
Posted: 5 Sep 2003 1:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: TYERMAN, PALMER, FIELDING, WELLS, RICE/REES
I found several Palmer and Fielding ancesters in the Harvard Grove cemetery in Cleveland, Ohio (Newburg township). The lot was purchased by a Thomas Tyerman. There is a Maggie Tyerman age 6 with date 5-13-1883. I believe Thomas and his wife moved to Florida. Does anyone know of this Tyerman and how he might be related to the Palmers or Fieldings. William Palmer and wife Mary Ann Fielding were born in Wales but immigrated to US from Hartlepool, Durham, England in 1883/4. The plot also contains the graves of Wm E Palmer - son of Wm. Herbert F Fielding, baby Fielding, and Thelma Wells age 2. Any info on tyermans in US or England would be appreciated.
Thanks, Anne

Re: Tyerman in Cleveland, Ohio

Posted: 16 Mar 2007 11:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Tyermann, Fielding, Palmer, Bushnell, Wells, Moore, Smith, Sluka, Diebold
Hi!

Thomas Tyermann was married to Margaret Fielding. Her older sister was Mary Ann Fielding and she was married to William Palmer.

Mary Ann Fielding was born October 12, 1840 and died January 25, 1913. William Palmer was born in 1826 and died in 1895. They were married in England and came to Cleveland in 1881 or 1882 with two youngest children (Belle & Bill).

All of their children were born in England:

Amelia Jane- married Albert Bushnell

Margaret- came to Cleveland July 1879 married Daniel Wells August 31, 1885

Sarah- married John Moore

Mary Ann- married William Smith, after her husband's death she and her four children came to Cleveland in 1910

William- married Bertha Sluka

Isabelle- married John Diebold

Other children were: William (1857-1858), Thomas John (1868-1870), Isabelle (1871-1873) John William (1873-1874)

Thelma Wells died March 13, 1895 and was the daughter of Daniel Wells and Margaret Palmer.

I believe that I have photos of Thomas Tyermann, as well as his marriage certificate.

Please contact me so that we can compare notes and figure out how our families may be connected!

:)
Catherine Hall

Re: Tyerman in Cleveland, Ohio

Posted: 17 Mar 2007 10:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: PALMER, FIELDING, TYERMAN, SMITH, DIEBOLD
Hi Catherine
I think we have a lot of information to share. My paternal grandfather was William Edward Smith b. 20/Sep/1890 West Hartlepool, County Durham, England and d. 26/Oct/1966 in Cleveland Ohio son of William Smith b 9 dec 1862 and Mary Ann Palmer Smith b 21 mar 1866 West Hartlepool and d. 9 jan 1952 Cleveland, Ohio. Mary Ann Palmer was the daughter of William Palmer and Mary Ann Fielding.

William Smith and Mary Ann Palmer Smith had the following children:

Lilly Ann Smith b. 13/Jun/1887 Cleveland, Ohio
D 1968 Columbus, Ohio
M James O. Brookens 5 apr 1816
She appears in England with the family in West Hartlepool in the 1891 census - do not have information on why her mother was in the USA at time of birth - visiting parents - could they have afforded passage? Domestic? Was husband William with her? Was husband in military or navy or a seaman?
Eliza Amelia Kate Gummersall Smith believed to have died in infancy

William Edward Smith my grandfather he immigrated to Cleveland in 1905 and work as engineer on Penn Railroad M. Grace Clara Link (Linkerhaegner)

in 1909 Mary Ann immigrated with remaining four children after death of her husband

John James Palmer Smith b.03/Jun/1894 m. Laura Lucy Lillian Link

Tom Fielding Smith b. 28/Feb/1899 d. 15/Oct/1970 m. Mary Katherine Moll

Mary Isabel Smith b. 23/Sep/1903 d.25/Sep/1977 never married

Mabel Warnes Smith b. 11/Jan/1907 d. Nov 1985
m. Gordon Ruthman


The Children of William Edward Smith and Grace Clara Link
Dorothy Jean Smith
William Edward Smith My father
Dudley Allen Smith

Since the naming of children seems to follow the convention of using family given names and surnames of parents and grandparents and other relatives, can you clarify the link of some of the following:
(Eliza and Ann = William Smith’s mother Eliza Ann Horsley)
(Amelia = Mary Ann Palmer’s grandmother Amelia Matthews)
(Gummersall = William Smith’s aunts Hannah and Esther married Gummersalls)
(Fielding and Palmer are obviously surnames but are John, James, Tom/Thomas, Edward given names or Welsh surnames)
(Lilly, Kate, and Mabel are a puzzle)
(Isabel must be a Palmer or Fielding given name)
(I have found no link to Warnes)

Other information I am researching is about William Palmer and Mary Ann Fielding.
I found a Mary Ann Palmer birth record father William Palmer mother Mary Ann Fielding
Naturalization paper of William Palmer indicate he was from Merthyr Tydfil in Glamorgan, Wales
found a Mary Ann Fielding in BMD married to William Palmer in 05/Oct/1857 in Llanhilleth, Monmouth, Wales
William’s father was listed as William Palmer
Mary Ann’s Father was listed as James Fielding

I believe Mary Ann Fielding’s mother was an Amelia Matthews
can you confirm?

Do you know the story of the initial immigration? Did they emigrate from England because of recruitment efforts of Ohio Industries, economic difficulties, religion? Who came first? Any additional information on Margaret Palmer and David Wells? What is the link to the Iron/steel industry, coal mining, railways, etc in England? There seems to be movement and connections between Wales, Lancashire, Yorkshire, and West Hartlepool/ Stranton, Co. Durham. The link to Germany seems to have happened in Ohio. Did our group lived near a German neighborhood in Cleveland. On the religious front I find Church of England, Mormons, Methodist, and other non-conformists.

Please contact me directly at my e-mail address - agardnersmith@yahoo.com. I am very excited to find a relative!!! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks Anne
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