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The Irish Twible/Twibill/Twybles

The Irish Twible/Twibill/Twybles

Posted: 6 Apr 2004 5:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Twibell
This message is the same as below but I thot that this might get noticed more. I am very interested in replies, please.

I believe that Ireland is the key to the Twibells/Twibills/Twibles

My grandmother was Twible and I grew up quite close to that family and the wider family, which is not so big in Ireland or anywhere else for that matter. I have a cousin of my mothers who has being doing research on the family, and we together have got the Irish twibles fairly well sorted out.

As to the family. The research has to be wide to take in a name which changes spelling so frequently. Here are some
Name varients
TWIBILL/TWIBELLE/TWIBIL/TWIBALL/TWIBELL/TWIBEL/TWIBAL/TWYBILL/TWYBIL/TWYBEL/TWIBLE/TWYBLE/TWYBELL/TWIBILE/TWIBLETWYBEL/
TWYBEL/TWYBELLE

Indeed here the family name change from Twible in the 19teens to Twyble by the 1930's. And one branch of the family which moved to Belfast in the 1800's are now Twibell. The story goes is that my great Uncle Billy Twible who moved to Australia after the WWI because he had been gassed, started to send back letters signed Twyble, and the folk here like it and changed their spelling!!. This seems to have included his father, born Twible and died Twyble in 1939.

One thing about the family is its capacity to produce a large family from juat a few individuals. Although the Irish family name now resides in just 2 brothers, one not married in his late 50's and his brother who has only a daughter. The only remaining Twybles are some grandchildren of my great uncle Billy in NSW.

The William Twible connection in Australia which you may be aware of, is important to us because it may give evidence to the common connection between the families. Yes there is one family in Yorkshire England and I have an address for someone interested in the family, but this family is all accounted for as being of the one origin. There is old records of a Twibill in the 1500's in Yorkshire so this may be a vague clue. But I do believe hat the name is based in the Yorkshire Nottinghamshire area and of Norman origin. And no doubt William sailled from an English port, Sheerness 1821on the Kent coast, on the Minerva as a crewman on a convict ship in . Question is have the names separate origins and merely convergant spellings. Or vice versa.

The main source of emmigration seems however to be from Ireland. Three family sources. One Twibills, centred in Dundalk, north of Dublin, which we have not really established a link with, there may not be any directly, there is still some of them left, but they do not seem to have much effect on emmigrants.

However the other family in situated in Monaghan, in the Castleblayney, Clontibret area(probably derived from the Dundalk family only 20 miles away) .This family seems to have died out in the 20th century, so it is so important to find living relatives who can directly trace to County Monaghan. My own Twible family lived most of the 19th Century in County Armagh, only about 30 miles from the other Monaghan Twibles. I have not yet proved any link with them other than anecdotally, there is no one to ask!. But I think further research will prove a link. The oldest references so far, in the 1700's seem to connect to this family. A John Twible emmigrated to Maryland from Monaghan in 1760, and eventually founded the Indiana Twibells (Spelling change) who still are a large family.
http://www.gencircles.com/globaltree/gosearch?f=john&l=T...

However, most of the links do go back to Monaghan but I can trace a progression to County Armagh, with as yet no proven links, I am actively working on this as I am 100% certain that they are linked as there are no other Twibles in Ireland and I have them nearly acounted for in the last 150 years. I am convinced in the link to the Monaghan Family, the references so far indicate Twibles there, whereas my oldest reference to County Armagh is Joseph who was born before 1800 but not in Armagh, so I belive I might be able to he was a member of the Monaghan connection.

There are is a fair amount of Twible (still the 'i') in the eastern US, these mostly desend from my great grandfathers 3 brothers and also 2 sisters who emmigrated at the turn of the 19th/20th centuries, establishing themselves in New England. (Some of the remaining Monaghan family also emmigrated to the New York area. so this slightly confuses the picture.( My wife and myself contacted them when we visited them over New Year as we were on Holiday in New England and New Jersey, we called with some members of the family whom we have been out of contact with for 40 years.

The Canadian connection, about 20 in the Ontario phone books, again do have an Irish and Monaghan origin.
and this I have tracked.

My mothers side of the family, the info so far runs out by 1800, so this seem to be the period at the end of the 1700's when folk were moving. So this is why it is important to find the common origin, espicially when the English Twible also arose from an individual..

I am working diligently here on the bigger picture.

Re: The Irish Twible/Twibill/Twybles

Cynthia Twible McGinn (View posts)
Posted: 23 Apr 2004 8:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
I don't to much of my father's side history what I can tell you is that my grandfather is Robert A. Twible he grew up in a small town in Mass. that was flooded to make a reservor. It has been know to me that the twible's name in Ireland was spelled Twyble and it was changed when they came to America. I still some aunts that are living on his side and I hope to get more information for you. Please let me know if this has been any help to you. Thank you

Re: The Irish Twible/Twibill/Twybles

Geoff Allen (View posts)
Posted: 24 Apr 2004 9:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Twible
Hello Cynthia,
thank you so much for replying. I do believe that you have come to the right place. It was my great-grandfather's brother Atkinson Twible who live near Enfield in Mass which was flooded to make the Quabbin resevoir. He emigrated in 1890 from Northern Ireland, then returned home in 1892 to marry, then moved back to Hampshire County where he was a farmer. I think he may have had three children. Stewart born 1895, named after his father, Robert born in 1903 and Rachel born in 1907.
I believe that Robert had a son also called Robert A (is the initial standing for Atkinson?) Born in 1920, is this your grandfather? We found this man's address in my late great uncle's address book, along with an address of a Miss P Twible of New York and I think it's a daughter.

I hope that this helps to identify the link, I hope that the does as I have done a lot of research here in Ireland and am so willing to share it with others. I have lots of information, photographs, and gedcom files, to fit into family history software. You may wish to correspond directly through e-mail, although the message board allows others to share.

The foreword to hearing from you,
Geoff Allen

Re: The Irish Twible/Twibill/Twybles

Posted: 17 Sep 2008 2:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Geoff,
I know this is an old thread but I'm descended from the Csatleblaney Twibills, specifically James Twibill b.1808 in Castleblaney (one of five brothers mentioned in another thread).
I recently found out their fathers name was William (not helpful, I know!) and his profession was "gentleman". I'm not 100% sure how one qualifies as a gentleman, but I think it's usually inherited money from somewhere in the family...perhaps landowners?

Re: The Irish Twible/Twibill/Twybles

Posted: 17 Sep 2008 10:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi there thanks for your reply I am still active in family history and was up today at the record office. I am living in Ireland and have not yet proven the link between the Castleblaney Twibills and our own, but I have in the process done a good bit of research on the Monaghan Twibills. They are the forebears of the Canadian and New York families which all adds to the confusion. If I can be of any help or you want photos of the graves etc. let me know.

Geoff

Re: The Irish Twible/Twibill/Twybles

Posted: 28 Feb 2009 10:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks, that would be a great help! I'm sorry it's taken me so long to reply, I must've unticked the little box that sends alerts when someone replies to a thread.

So far I've found very little on the internet about the family, but I think you mentioned in another thread that you found a gravestone of someone called Munday Twibill. I assume this is someone from my lot because one of Williams sons was called Matthew Munday Twibill - it's just a case of trying to work out how everyone fits together!

Katie

Re: The Irish Twible/Twibill/Twybles

Posted: 2 Mar 2009 1:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi katie

I am always greatful to get replies as I have really come to the limit of information sources apart form other people. I live near Belfast where the Public records office is and as far as I can find I am nearly at the limit. I have reconsructed a family tree for the county monaghan Twibills and have them in ged.com files if you like I could send them to you. I did the research for a friend in New Zealand to see basically if I was related to him, but I never found a connection between these Twibills and our own family even though only 40 miles distant.

Yes there is a grave in the Church of Ireland in Castleblayney Co. Monanghan of Munday Twibill and Matthew Munday is buried in another graveyard in the county. I have photos of these.

Let me know how I can help you.

Geoff

Re: The Irish Twible/Twibill/Twybles

Posted: 3 Mar 2009 5:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Geoff,

Thanks so much for offering your help, and for putting in the hours researching. I'd love to see the gedcom files, and the grave photos would be interesting to see aswell. My e-mail is sillyspoon75@hotmail.com

Thankyou!
Katie

Re: The Irish Twible/Twibill/Twybles

Posted: 9 Feb 2012 12:16AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Geoff,
I've just spent a fascinating morning reading messages on this site regarding the Twyble/Twible/Twibill family history. My name is Gina Twyble and I am the grandchild of your Great Uncle Billy who emigrated to Australia. He was married in Australia to Florence May Jones (who emigrated with him from Lurgan). They had two children, my aunt Alicia (alway known as Laurie), and my father William John (always known as John). Laurie married Lionel Redfearn and they had two sons Mark and Luke. Mark has one daughter Lucy. My father married Shirley Ann Joel in 1960, my brother Matthew was born in 1961. I followed in 1962 and my younger brother Sam was born in 1964. Sadly Sam died in an accident in 1988.
I have one son Louis, born in 2000, but he is a Woodland (my husband's name).

My brother Matthew has two sons (with his wife Valerie Gregory). Gregory was born in 1988 and Jonathon (born 1991). Gregory is currently living and working in the UK. The rest of us are still living in Sydney, Australia.
We often muse on the origins of the name, the Irish and American connections and we have recently become very interested in finding out more.

It has been great to come across this message board and receive so much information at once. Thanks for sharing the work you have done.

I have come across a few other Twibells in Australia, although I don't know the origins of this family or whether we are related at all. Anecdotally I have heard they are the descendants of William Twibell who emigrated on a convict ship (as an officer's assistant) in the 1800's. He then took up land near Wiseman's Ferry (north of Sydney) and carried supplies by boat from Sydney to his region (a wild and remote place at the time). He died there around 1847 and his gravestone is in an old churchyard at St Albans.

I hope I haven't bored you with irrelevant details - I'm happy to contribute further information about the Australian Twyble connection if it is at all useful.

Best regards,

Gina

Re: The Irish Twible/Twibill/Twybles

Posted: 9 Feb 2012 12:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Gina
how lovely to make contact, yes I have the family material regarding Twible/Twybles. Photos etc family tree stuff I have archived material from throughout the family of interest throughout our connection. I never met your parents but met Lionel and Laurie and met Laurie on various occasions, so sad when she passed away. Perhaps we could correspond directly I attach a file that will direct you my way.

regards

Geoff
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