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Introduction to Twibells'

Introduction to Twibells'

Dennis Twibell (View posts)
Posted: 1 Sep 2003 11:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Twibell
I am Dennis from Tasmania.The only family in australia. I decended from Yorkshire twibells,I understand that is where they all started and I know one branch went to USA when my branch came to Tasmania. I have always led to believe that all Twibells are connected.Anyone able to verify what I have always been told is true?I have family history that traces back to a couple of generations into the UK.Go back to around 1700.

Re: Introduction to Twibells'

Posted: 21 Jan 2004 3:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 8 May 2004 6:25AM GMT
Surnames: twibell
dear Dennis I am presently researching the Twibells as my ggggrand mother was a Francis Twibbel one of a Twin I am trying to find Nicolas who was married to Ann Major or Mager he would have been born around 1730 in Anston Yorkshire. can you help. I am on the mainland lucky you living in Tassie hope to llive there one day.
Susan

Re: Introduction to Twibells'

Posted: 31 Mar 2004 1:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Ireland is the key to the Twibells/Twibills/Twibles

My grandmother was Twible and I grew up quite close to that family and the wider family, which is not so big in Ireland or anywhere else for that matter. I have a cousin of my mothers who has being doing research on the family, and we together have got the Irish twibles fairly well sorted out.

As to the family. The research has to be wide to take in a name which changes spelling so frequently. Here are some
Name varients
TWIBILL/TWIBELLE/TWIBIL/TWIBALL/TWIBELL/TWIBEL/TWIBAL/TWYBILL/TWYBIL/TWYBEL/TWIBLE/TWYBLE/TWYBELL/TWIBILE/TWIBLETWYBEL/
TWYBEL/TWYBELLE

Indeed here the family name change from Twible in the 19teens to Twyble by the 1930's. And one branch of the family which moved to Belfast in the 1800's are now Twibell. The story goes is that my great Uncle Billy Twible who moved to Australia after the WWI because he had been gassed, started to send back letters signed Twyble, and the folk here like it and changed their spelling!!. This seems to have included his father, born Twible and died Twyble in 1939.

One thing about the family is its capacity to produce a large family from juat a few individuals. Although the Irish family name now resides in just 2 brothers, one not married in his late 50's and his brother who has only a daughter. The only remaining Twybles are some grandchildren of my great uncle Billy in NSW.

The William Twible connection in Australia which you may be aware of, is important to us because it may give evidence to the common connection between the families. Yes there is one family in Yorkshire England and I have an address for someone interested in the family, but this family is all accounted for as being of the one origin. There is old records of a Twibill in the 1500's in Yorkshire so this may be a vague clue. But I do believe hat the name is based in the Yorkshire Nottinghamshire area and of Norman origin. And no doubt William sailled from an English port, Sheerness 1821on the Kent coast, on the Minerva as a crewman on a convict ship in . Question is have the names separate origins and merely convergant spellings. Or vice versa.

The main source of emmigration seems however to be from Ireland. Three family sources. One Twibills, centred in Dundalk, north of Dublin, which we have not really established a link with, there may not be any directly, there is still some of them left, but they do not seem to have much effect on emmigrants.

However the other family in situated in Monaghan, in the Castleblayney, Clontibret area(probably derived from the Dundalk family only 20 miles away) .This family seems to have died out in the 20th century, so it is so important to find living relatives who can directly trace to County Monaghan. My own Twible family lived most of the 19th Century in County Armagh, only about 30 miles from the other Monaghan Twibles. I have not yet proved any link with them other than anecdotally, there is no one to ask!. But I think further research will prove a link. The oldest references so far, in the 1700's seem to connect to this family. A John Twible emmigrated to Maryland from Monaghan in 1760, and eventually founded the Indiana Twibells (Spelling change) who still are a large family.
http://www.gencircles.com/globaltree/gosearch?f=john&l=T...

However, most of the links do go back to Monaghan but I can trace a progression to County Armagh, with as yet no proven links, I am actively working on this as I am 100% certain that they are linked as there are no other Twibles in Ireland and I have them nearly acounted for in the last 150 years. I am convinced in the link to the Monaghan Family, the references so far indicate Twibles there, whereas my oldest reference to County Armagh is Joseph who was born before 1800 but not in Armagh, so I belive I might be able to he was a member of the Monaghan connection.

There are is a fair amount of Twible (still the 'i') in the eastern US, these mostly desend from my great grandfathers 3 brothers and also 2 sisters who emmigrated at the turn of the 19th/20th centuries, establishing themselves in New England. (Some of the remaining Monaghan family also emmigrated to the New York area. so this slightly confuses the picture.( My wife and myself contacted them when we visited them over New Year as we were on Holiday in New England and New Jersey, we called with some members of the family whom we have been out of contact with for 40 years.

The Canadian connection, about 20 in the Ontario phone books, again do have an Irish and Monaghan origin.
and this I have tracked.

My mothers side of the family, the info so far runs out by 1800, so this seem to be the period at the end of the 1700's when folk were moving. So this is why it is important to find the common origin, espicially when the English Twible also arose from an individual..

I am working diligently here on the bigger picture.

Re: Introduction to Twibells'

Posted: 21 Sep 2012 7:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Stanlake Twybill
I have been researching my family for several years and discovered my paternal great grandfather came from Dundalk but could find no other reference to Stanlake anywhere in Ireland then today I came across a Samuel Stanlake who married Eliza Twybill in 1864 in Castleblaney. They had a son William born April 1865 ,though the child died shortly after birth. Is there by any chance a Stanlake among your ancestors? Frank Stanlake was born in Dundalk in 1869 and his father seems to also have been called Frank --- no other information.
I look forward to any clues even if this proves no go.
Maureen Bower nee Stanlake

Re: Introduction to Twibells'

Posted: 24 Sep 2012 12:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Maureen
thanks for replying to the posting I am always looking for further contacts especially if I can prove some contact between the Co. Armagh and the Monaghan Twibles. I have not proved a definite link as I believe that it is before 1800 where records are poor. I have researched the Monaghan Twibills and have some ged files. Your post I have not come across, what churh were they married in? There are 2 groups one presbyterian and the other church of Ireland (episcopal) While some of the older Twibills in Dundalk were Catholic.
I will attach the ged files for your information and perhaps they will be of help.
It's not a clear picture.

Geoff Allen

Re: Introduction to Twibells'

Posted: 24 Sep 2012 10:03PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: twibell, stanlake.
Dear Geoff,
I was delighted to get a reply to my post. My information is minimal---my paternal grandfather called Frank Stanlake according to his wedding certificate was born in Dundalk and the first reference to him is this certificate Aston 1904. His father is given as Frank Stanlake,presumably in Ireland. I think the wedding,to Emily Jessie Stacey, was in a registry office but my father and his siblings were brought up as Roman Catholics and I know my grandmother was not R.C.
I found Samuel and hence Eliza purely by chance when looking up Stanlakes in Staffordshire where a William was shown as being born in Ireland and this proved to be Eliza and Samuel's son who died before he was more than a baby.----Nothing else at all. How do I access the ged files ,I am new to all this? Thanks again for answering.
Maureen

Re: Introduction to Twibells'

Posted: 25 Sep 2012 12:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thankyou for your reply. The ged files are accessed through most famly tree software. There are a number of Elizabeths as tgere are a whole lot of Georges. So the picture is not simple. I will do sme more research. I do not know ofany direct relatives who could help. But it is interesting thattheywent to england. Was he a soldier by any chance?

Re: Introduction to Twibells'

Posted: 25 Sep 2012 4:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Stanlake Twybill
Thanks again.Frank Stanlake gas stoker living at 3 oughton place Highgate,Birmingham married at Aston registry office 27 Jan 1904 father licensed victualler--no sign of latter in Birmingham, or elsewhere, so presumably still in Ireland,Dundalk.By 1905 Frank coal dealer and carter, then moved to Loftus Yorkshire, probably family following his sister-in-law who had previously gone there. He became an iron miner and would,I think, therefore not had to serve in the First War. Became a bookmaker later and never left Loftus. My father,Frank but known as Stacey if not Ginger(!), did in fact join the army,probably lack of work available in the N.E., and spent most of his Service as a Survey Instructor on Salisbury Plain---none of this is really rel. to you but it fills in a bit. Never any refs. to relatives on my father's father's side and I only discovered by chance grandad had an Irish accent---hence my quest. Thanks--everything helps and/or is interesting in its own right. Maureen
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