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Tweed Family

Posted: 18 Aug 2010 8:22PM GMT
Classification: Lookup
I am looking for people that are interested in the Tweed family,I am interested in Jeremiah Tweed born 1786 and his wife Elizabeth Ginn born 1791 also Jeremiah Tweed born 1830 and his wife Emily Millington.I am looking into the family tree for my niece some of the Tweeds ended up in Worksop Nottinghamshire. Janet

Re: Tweed Family

Posted: 5 Aug 2011 6:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 5 Aug 2011 6:22AM GMT
Dear Janet,

Has your search been successful. There seem to be many Tweed family trees now. Most include the names, dates and place you have mentioned.

I'm following some leads on the origins of the Tweeds, that suggest they came over with William the Conqueror, from Brittany. (It's even conceivable that the river in Britain might have been named after them.)

Re: Tweed Family

Posted: 19 Dec 2011 6:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
Perhaps I should describe one lead for the origin of the surname Tweed. Since the family has long been spread almost equally across several counties from Glasgow to Middlesex, that's the first hint that the surname is not a toponym. Their distribution coincides with the principal counties of residence in Britain of a Breton military leader, Count Alan Rufus (who among many other things, built Richmond Castle), and of his eventual heir Stephen of Treguier whose descendants include the later Dukes of Britanny.

Some genealogies do indeed trace the Tweeds to the Breton royal family, some of whose ancestors were prominent British families in Powys, Gwynned, Cornwall and Devon during the Roman occupation: indeed, in the 300's they were in the Roman army as elite cavalry troops.

The nearest Welsh name to Tweed is Twydr (Theodore), the root of which may be the extremely ancient word (in German, Gothic and Saxon, "Theod") meaning "(our) people" or "(our) family" or "(our) kin": this has been traced back to before the separation of the Indo-European languages (so it's at least 5000 years old), and shares an irregular singular form "Den" meaning "man" or "human" or "husband" that has shared origins with the corresponding word in Basque and in Hebrew (it's the word "Adam").

Names associated with the first millenium history of the Bretons include the Gothic kings Theodoric I and II, the Bavarian king Theoden I, and the Spanish-Roman Count Theodosius; this is rather suggestive, as they were all well-known in their time and were well connected by major events during the 3rd to 5th centuries.

Re: Tweed Family

Posted: 23 Feb 2012 4:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thankyou very much for the imformation .I will pass them on to my niece Im sure she will find them very helpful in her search for her Tweed family tree.
Janet

Re: Tweed Family

Posted: 26 Feb 2012 7:56AM GMT
Classification: Query
Stephen I, Lord of Richmond and Count of Treguier in Brittany, who was buried at St Mary's Church in York in 1136, deserves to be better known than he is. Not only is he an ancestor of the current British Royal family, all of his children are, as are most of his grandchildren. Stephen is also an ancestor of Princess Diana Spencer and Winston Churchill. Other descendants include George Washington and Barak Obama, and many other people famous or obscure, so perhaps descending from him is not so special any more!
To be thoroughly unreliable as I don't have my sources for the next assertion handy, some genealogists with mathematical inclinations claim that if a person has any living descendants at all after 700 years (20 generations), then they are probably very numerous indeed! This neatly explains why Charlemagne crops up in every deeply researched European family tree, including Stephen of Treguier's.
On a side note, Malcolm III (the Malcolm in Shakespeare's "Macbeth") was a friend of Stephen's family, particularly of his elder brother Alan Rufus, the first Lord of Richmond. Malcolm III and his father King Duncan belonged to the Scottish House of Dunkeld, which was most proud of its descent from a cadet line of the Dairine, an important clan in ancient Ireland, known to Claudius Ptolemy the Geographer as the Darini. The House of Dunkeld is another ancestral line of the current British royal family, and surely have very many living descendants.
I was pleasantly surprised to learn recently that the patrilineal line of the anciently most powerful house among the Dairine has my surname, Driscoll. The Internet Surname Database states that "the O'Driscolls were a great sea-faring clan in West Cork"; indeed, my grandfather John Bartlett Driscoll-Tobin and his father (Daniel Driscoll), stepfather (John Tobin) and grandfather (Dennis Driscoll, born in Ireland c1803) were shipwrights and mariners in Poplar (i.e. the London Docks), Tyneside and Australia.
The Tweeds on the other hand were, for most of their history, owners of inland properties. Both the Tweeds and the Driscolls were great castle-builders.

Re: Tweed Family

Posted: 29 Mar 2012 10:10AM GMT
Classification: Query
There is a River Tweed in Leicestershire, in central England, described by Wikipedia as "a short tributary of the River Sence."

This supports the hypothesis that the origin of the river's name is not Gaelic, but more likely Brythonic.

Concerning the River Sence, "antiquarian accounts of the Battle of Bosworth (22 August 1485) label the brook upstream of Shenton “Tweed”".

These rivers are in the River Trent's catchment. "The name 'Trent' comes from a Celtic [i.e. Brythonic] word possibly meaning 'strongly flooding'. More specifically, the name may be a contraction of two Celtic words, tros ('over') and hynt ('way'). This may indeed indicate a river that is prone to flooding. However, a more likely explanation [of this choice of name] may be that it was considered to be a river that could be crossed principally by means of fords, i.e. the river flowed over major road routes."

There was a Romano-British

Geoffrey

Re: Tweed Family

Posted: 20 Mar 2013 10:56AM GMT
Classification: Query
Another intriguing hint about the surname Tweed is that the De Montfort Park football stadium complex (home of Hinckley United) is situated just south of Barwell, a village on the Tweed River in Leicestershire.

The complex is named after Simon de Montfort, 6th Earl of Leicester, who deposed King Henry III and established the first sovereign, elected parliament of England in 1265.

De Montfort's banner bore the "Arms of the Honour of Hinckley", which are now to be found on a stained glass window in Chartes Cathedral in France, on Hinckley Council's coat of arms, and on Hinckley United's club crest.

This Tweed River was called the Bare Wella (boar stream) in Anglo-Saxon times, but its name is recorded as Tweed in accounts of the nearby Battle of Bosworth Field in 1485.

Significantly, later members of the de Montfort family, as well as both sides in the War of the Roses, the Tudors, and of course Alan Rufus, all had important connections with the Duchy of Brittany.
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