Re: Who knows about TSE's history?
It well could be a "different branch", though it may simply be the spelling that was chosen because it appears more Spanish than the other spellings of the name ("Sese" sounds more like the "hsieh" sound in Spanish than it would in English, anyway.) How have you traced the surname "Sese"?
Someone I know who is Chinese and whose family is also from the Philippines is from Guangdong, which is where most early overseas Chinese immigrants are from. Have you read about the history of Chinese immigration to the Philippines? I'm not familiar with any texts in particular, but there are books about the Chinese in the Philppines in the 19th century... seems like it would be a good place to start to see whether your ancestors follow the general immigrant "pattern".
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Re: Who knows about TSE's history?
Hmm yah more probably a different branch. I was told that my lineage is from a Chinese Trader that landed on Pampanga 5 generations ago (not counting my generation) and has the surname written in Chinese "Xie" (Xie4) that became "Sese".
Now that you mention it, that's true, Sese do sound like Spanish. Hmm... during those times Chinese that lands here in the Philippines have to change their name so as it will not sound Chinese, I forgot this part of our history, I'll go research for it again, thanks.
Yes, I remember that my grandfather told me that we came from Guangdong. I want to confirm this myself though.
I'll look for that book. Good idea, a good place to start.
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Re: Who knows about TSE's history?
Other variations: Xie, Xie Xie, Hsieh, Dea, Dear, Der, Deer, Che, She, Tse, Tze, Se, Sese, Tsia, Chia Xie Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/admin.board/an/surnames.xi...I'm going to start my own website soon. I may not have enough infos to offer, but I'm dedicating it to the Xie Clan / Xie Family Surname (including all the 15 variations).
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Wow! What an honor to be part of the Xie4 Clan! What emperor is this Xie? I studied Chinese history, but didn't come across an Emperor Xie. But then, my class did not study as far back as 2,675 years. Was he Han Chinese or a Manchu?
My uncle did genealogy, but he only went back 32 generations, and it went back to Inner Mongolia.
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I happen to start tracing my family tree in China and got stuck with the last 155 generations between my father and the very earliest TSE original ancestor, the Emperor YIM. Here is my findings so far: YIM was the Emperor of Herbs in ancient China who tasted different types of herbs to verify their essence and effects. One of his sons was given the name YAM (along with some land and people of course). YAM had several sons and TSE was one of them. TSE stayed in midland China for some time until Emperor WONG (or HUANG) defeated Emperor YIM and his people. Yet the TSE family survived for another 63 generations to San Por who lived under a different surname Guern. His sister was married to Emporer Chow Shun and San Por was honoured with some land and people where he proclaimed the land as TSE's kingdom. The people there then reclaimed their surname TSE to flourish. There were many famous poets and high ranking officers in ancient China. The findings/story continue and I can tell you more if interested as there are lots of missing links in between. Others may argue that TSE was originated from Emperor WONG (HUANG) because WONG was more influential. Who knows !
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Hi to All directly or indirectly related,
I am finding the posted information very interesting. My father was borned in the town called Meizhou South East of China. His ancestors dates back some 5+ generations (circa) from the same village.
I was borned in Hong Kong so hence the spelling of my surname. To think I was related to the Xie4 clan was awesome! This will inspire me to look up my history. However, I would like to hear from your new findings so keep me posted please.
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Hi, Do you have info on my Tse family?. My Great Grandparents Tse and Shuen came from Mui-Yuen, Guangdong in Southern China, and my grandpa name is Hing Chai Tse born there and he have 4 siblings. Hing Chai Tse and the third eldest brother migrated to Hong Kong. He have wife named King Yu Chow But later Hing Chai Tse`s family migrated to North California, USA.
Thanks
Sarah Tse
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