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TOPALI

Posted: 23 Feb 2006 9:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 7 Mar 2006 10:55AM GMT
Surnames: TOPALI
Re : GENEALOGY SEARCH
I would like to find out any information about the descendents of families NAUM TOPALI and his wife EFTALIA, that lived in Korce,ALBANIA, and moved in the 1900-1930’s in U.S.A(Boston) and ROMANIA (Bucharest).
My grand-fathers and their possible 5 descendents are:

1.NAUM TOPALI
-born:aprox.1850:KORCE,ALBANIA
-death:before 1909:KORCE,ALBANIA

2.EFTALIA TOPALI
-born:aprox.1860:KORCE,ALBANIA
-death:after 1909(maybe 1930-1940):KORCE,ALBANIA

DESCENDENTS:

1.ATHENA(ATINA)TOPALI:born in 1888,established in ROMANIA(BUCHAREST),married with IANE CRISTACHE,and died in 1960.

2.EVRIDICHI TOPALI,born in maybe 1890-died in maybe 1970, established in ROMANIA,married with NICOLITZARU.

3. ?...TOPALI,born in maybe 1895-died in maybe 1975,married with BOROVA,and remained in KORCE,ALBANIA,having as son BOROVA PANDELE.

4. ?.. TOPALI,born maybe in 1883-1888,married, established in USA- BOSTON MA or in KINGS NY,and died maybe in 1965-1985.

5. ?..TOPALI,born maybe in 1940-1945,established in USA, BOSTON MA or PHOENIX AZ.
. I try to find my relatives that came to America and that arrived initially in BOSTON,MA and then spread in other states from the U.S.For this reason I have posted announcements on some boards,and I dared to ask for help at some persons that know how to search some public information.


I am interested in the history of the TOPALI family and especially the situation of the descendents from USA that are still alive,and i would like to know the names,ages,childrens,adresses,etc.

e-mail : gnirolf@yahoo.com

Re: TOPALI

Peter Halpin (View posts)
Posted: 24 Feb 2006 4:16AM GMT
Classification: Query
Maybe you could just enter the last name at:

http://www.peoplefinders.com/Search/People/Default.htm and

http://people.yahoo.com/

There may be only a few hits, but then you could write to them.

Good luck.

Re: TOPALI

Posted: 24 Feb 2006 10:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 7 Mar 2006 10:55AM GMT
Surnames: TOPALI
For completing the previous message I am telling you the following:
I have partially contacted the federal census records from 1910-1930,the EllisIslandFoundation@EllisIsland.org (Family History Center),Ancestry.com,rootsweb.com,and lots of other sites with search engines for persons and genealogic info’s.I couldn’t acces the secret info’s from Ancestry.com,I couldn’t receive info’s from genealogical libraries,and from the Churches archives.
I have added announcements on many forums and I have worked with different volunteers. I have sent e-mails and letters to all the TOPALI and TOPALIS(I found out that a lot of TOPALI changed names in TOPALIS)that are on the internet,without receiving any answers.
I say that the great grandfather NAUM TOPALI might have had his family greek,that emmigrated in KORCE-ALBANIA because of the persecutions made by the turkish and greek occupiers,and great grandmother EFTALIA TOPALI was macedo-romanian(aromanian)from the region MOSKOPOLE-KORCE.Their children emmigrated between 1900-1930 in USA and Romania.
I inform you that I try to find my relatives that came to America and that arrived initially in BOSTON,MA(KINGS,NY) and then spread in other states from the U.S.
The relatives I am looking for are my grandmothers(mother of mother)nephews.The info’s I have are from my mother and grandmother(both are decesed),and they couldn’t keep in touch with the relatives that have gone in other countries.
GNIROLF




TOP*LI deaths

Posted: 24 Feb 2006 3:49PM GMT
Classification: Death
Surnames: Topali, Topalli, Topulli
Here are some TOP*LI deaths, as recorded in the Social Security Death Index:

Name / birth date / death date / last residence

Eleanora Topali 6 May 1919 10 May 1990 Phoenix, Maricopa, Arizona

M. Topali 24 Feb 1910 Aug 1991 Tujunga, Los Angeles, California

Nina L. Topali 18 Aug 1926 9 Jul 1993 Hanover, Plymouth, Massachusetts

William Topali 23 Dec 1915 Dec 1972

Emin I. Topalli 1 Jan 1924 16 Jun 1993 Peabody, Essex, Massachusetts

Ismet I. Topalli 7 Sep 1932 4 Sep 2000 Newton Center, Middlesex, Massachusetts

Bilal Topulli 25 Feb 1892 Dec 1974 (U.S. Consulate)

Fahrije V. Topulli 2 Apr 1911 29 Apr 2001 Garden City, Wayne, Michigan

Faik Topulli 7 Jul 1900 15 Oct 1976 (U.S. Consulate) Tirana

"James" TOPALI w/ sister Mary Evangelidis, 1920 census

Posted: 24 Feb 2006 3:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
1920 US Census, NY, Kings County, Brooklyn AD 7, ED 393, Sheet 9A

Address: 562 6th Avenue[?]

EVANGELIDES, Harry, head, rent, age 28, single, immigrated 1909/naturalized 1914, born Turkey/Speak Greek, parents born Turkey, Jeweler

Mary, sister, 32, single, immigrated [1914 or 1919]/alien, born Turkey/Speak Greek, parents born Turkey,

TOPALI, James, brother-in-law, age 32, immigrated 1917/alien, born Turkey/Speak Greek, parents born Turkey, Barber/Own B, Employer

James was age 32 in 1920, indicating he was born circa 1888.

Re: "James" TOPALI w/ sister Mary Evangelidis, 1920 census

Posted: 24 Feb 2006 8:17PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: TOPALI
My relatives were Macedonian-roumanians and their languages were Aromanian,Albanian,Turkish and Greek,because Albania was temporary occupied by Turkey and Greece(in different times).The great grandfather Naum Topali might have had his family greek,that emigrated in Korce-Albania because the persecutions made by the turkish occupiers,and great grandmother,Eftalia Topali,was macedo-romanian(aromanian)from the region Moskopole-Korce.Their children emigrated after years in USA and Romania.
The relatives I am looking for are my grandmothers(mother of mother) nephews.The informations I have are from my mother and grandmother(both are dead),and they couldn’t keep in touch with the relatives that have gone in other countries.

I inform you that I try to find my relatives that came to America and that arrived initially in BOSTON,MA and then spread in other states from the U.S.For this reason I have posted announcements on some boards,and I dared to ask for help at some persons that know how to search some public information.

I think we first must get informations for my aunt TOPALI that came in the U.S. and after that about the descendents,that if they live,they probably have other names.For this it is necessary for a site,at which the search of a person should be made having in consideration the name of the parents,date and birth place(KORCE or KORYTSA or KORCA) and the place were they are from :ALBANIA or TURKEY because ALBANIA until 1912 was occupied temporary by TURKEY and GREECE.
There can be helpfull the archives of the Orthodoxe Churches from Boston and documents of the macedo-romanian(aromanian) communities from Boston

I have partially contacted the federal census records from 1910-1930,the EllisIslandFoundation@EllisIsland.org (Family History Center),Ancestry.com,rootsweb.com,and lots of other sites with search engines for persons and genealogic info’s.I couldn’t acces the secret info’s from Ancestry.com,I couldn’t receive info’s from genealogical libraries,and from the Churches archives.
I have added announcements on many forums and I have worked with different volunteers. I have sent e-mails and letters to all the TOPALI and TOPALIS(I found out that a lot of TOPALI changed names in TOPALIS)that are on the internet,without receiving any answers.

I inform you that the dates about the family relations between James Topali,Tina Topali,WilliamTopali,Eleanora Topali ,David Topali,Antina Topali,Tina Topali,E.E.Topali,Anastasia Topali,Nicholas Topali,Fidelina Topalis,Nicolas Topalis,John Topalis,James Topalis,Traci Topalis,Laura Topalis,John Topali,Nina(Merrell) Topali,Philip Topali,Kathleen Topali,Helen Topali,Harry Poulakos I already had.

I thank you because you are trying to help me.

GNIROLF

Re: TOPALI

Posted: 7 Jun 2006 7:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: TOPALI, TOPALIS
I saw some of your myrootsplace.com postings in all sorts of forums many of which I doubt will yield anthing just because they are in the wrong forums for the right people to see them.

That said, it seemed like you were really lost on research so I decided to take a look.

I would have suggested this message board which you already found. Have you thought to post in the locations message boards for MA - Suffolk, Norfolk and Middlesex Co's which would pretty much cover metro Boston and the suburbs of Boston? And also for AZ, Maricopa Co which is where Phoenix is located?

Also the similar message boards at Genealogy.com?

You can access the Social Security Death Index at rootsweb.com under "Search Engines and Databases" social Security Death Index. It's free there. I don't remember the reason but not all deaths appear in the SSDI but most do. Your dates sound like you sould find some family there and I see that someone posted SSDI info on Topali"s here.

Also, 1920 Kings Co, NY census info. I have a full ancestry subscription and will send the census image to you. They allow me to "share" up to five images to an addy. I still haven't figured out if that is per day, week, month or whatever.

Have you gone to familysearch.org and checked their libraby catolog to see what may have been filmed by the LDS for Orthodox Churches in your cities of interest? Also, earlier 20th century vital records like birth and marriage for your locations?

If any of this was filmed and you can locate a Family History Center near where you live - also to be found under the library tab - you could borrow the films from Salt Lake City to research them.

The most recent information you wish to know, unless someone volunteers it or you dig around on Google or other search engines and come across something the living Topali"s have done themselves or been mentioned for on some site or publication, you probably won't get; privacy laws and all that.

However, if you know where they might be living or can take a guess, some cities and towns have property tax and voter lists on line. You might find some Topali"s that way although you still might not know if they are descendants of your Topali"s.

You also won't find your people at Ellis Island which is in NYC and their site is strictly arrivals to Ellis Island. If your people arrived in Boston you would want ships' passenger lists for Boston. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) filmed these and the LDS might have some as well. Google around using subjects such as Boston births, MA marriages, etc. There are a lot of sites out there and some infor you seek might be on a site that has nothing to do with Greek/Turkish/Romanian people. For example, I've gotten a lot of death certificate numbers for members of my NYC area family off an Italian Genealogy site although my family isn't Italian. It just so happens that this site has databases of NYC deaths for all the Boroughs and it was their NYC Naturalizations databace where I found the necessary information a British 2nd great grandfather and was able to order his naturalization paperwork from NARA.

Try going on to the US Gen Web site for Suffolk Co - Boston and see if there is anyone there who might know where you could get help with a search of these or a look-up volunteer.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~masuffol/

Here are two sites I found for MA vitals: http://www.worldvitalrecords.com/massachusetts-vital-records...

MA State site: http://www.mass-doc.com/vitals_1906_1998.htm

Arizona sites: http://www.rootsweb.com/~azgenweb/
http://www.rootsweb.com/~azmarico/index.htm
http://www.azdhs.gov/vitalrcd/

Remember to look at everyone. Sometimes, you might have to research a sibling to eventually collect the clues you need to bring you to the person you want. I had to get the death certificate for a sibling of an ancestor to finally learn their mother's correct maiden name.

The isn't much on TOPALI on Ancestry but I will send you what I find.

Re: TOPALI

Posted: 7 Jun 2006 8:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: TOPALI, TOPALIS
Here's some more info that doesn't have the "share" feature so cut and paste here is the easiest way to get it to you since my Yahoo account is all weird and won't accept copy and paste stuff for some reason.

Massachusetts Death Index, 1970-2003 Recordinfo
about Helen Topali
Name: Helen Topali

Spouse: Harry P Poulakos
Spouse Death Certificate: 054190
Spouse Death Place: Milton
Spouse Death Date: 3 Dec 2000
Spouse Birth Place: Massachusetts
Spouse Birth Date: 4 Sep 1914

Massachusetts Death Index, 1970-2003 Recordinfo
about Nina L Topali
Name: Nina L Topali
Certificate: 038783
Death Place: Hanover
Death Date: 9 Jul 1993
Birth Place: Connecticut
Birth Date: 18 Aug 1926

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 Recordinfo
about John J Topali
Name: John J Topali
Birth Year: 1926
Race: White, citizen
Nativity State or Country: Massachusetts
State: Massachusetts
County or City: Suffolk

Enlistment Date: 17 Oct 1944
Enlistment State: Massachusetts
Enlistment City: Fort Banks Boston
Branch: No branch assignment
Branch Code: No branch assignment
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: 4 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Blacksmith or Band Or Orchestra Leader (Band leader. ) or Musician, Instrumental (Bandsman.) or Bandsman, Clarinet or Bandsman, Cornet Or Trumpet or Bandsman, Drum, Bass or Bandsman, Drum, Snare or Bandsman, Euphonium Or Baritone or Bandsman, Flute Or Pic
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 00
Weight: 000

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 Record
Name: Nicholas J Topali
Birth Year: 1924
Race: White, citizen
Nativity State or Country: Massachusetts
State: Massachusetts
County or City: Suffolk

Enlistment Date: 23 Dec 1943
Enlistment State: Massachusetts
Enlistment City: Boston
Branch: No branch assignment
Branch Code: No branch assignment
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: 2 years of high school
Civil Occupation: Automobile Serviceman
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 00
Weight: 000

U.S. Public Records Index There a bunch here but since this is so public, I'll send these to you via email.


This is just about all there was for TOPALI or TOPALIS.

One thing I did notice was that one of the census entries noted that papers for citizenship had been filed - PA on the census so you might want to research that.

Re: TOPALI

Posted: 8 Jun 2006 5:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: TOPALI,TOPALIS


I confirm the receival of your message from 07.06.2006,and I thank you .
For completing the previous message I am telling you the following:

My relatives were Macedonian-roumanians and their languages were Aromanian,Albanian,Turkish and Greek,because Albania was temporary occupied by Turkey and Greece(in different times).The great grandfather Naum Topali might have had his family greek,that emigrated in Korce-Albania because the persecutions made by the turkish occupiers,and great grandmother,Eftalia Topali,was macedo-romanian(aromanian)from the region Moskopole-Korce.Their children emigrated after years in USA and Romania.
The relatives I am looking for are my grandmothers(mother of mother) nephews.The informations I have are from my mother and grandmother(both are dead),and they couldn’t keep in touch with the relatives that have gone in other countries.
I inform you that I try to find my relatives that came to America and that arrived initially in BOSTON,MA and then spread in other states from the U.S.For this reason I have posted announcements on some boards,and I dared to ask for help at some persons that know how to search some public information.
I think we first must get informations for my aunt TOPALI that came in the U.S. and after that about the descendents,that if they live,they probably have other names.For this it is necessary for a site,at which the search of a person should be made having in consideration the name of the parents,date and birth place(KORCE or KORYTSA or KORCA) and the place were they are from ALBANIA ,TURKEY or GREECE, because ALBANIA until 1912 was occupied temporary by TURKEY and GREECE.
There can be helpfull the archives of the Orthodoxe Churches from Boston and documents of the macedo-romanian(aromanian) communities from Boston .

I have partially contacted the federal census records from 1910-1930,the EllisIslandFoundation@EllisIsland.org (Family History Center),Ancestry.com,rootsweb.com,and lots of other sites with search engines for persons and genealogic info’s.
I couldn’t acces the secret info’s from Ancestry.com,I couldn’t receive info’s from genealogical libraries,and from the Churches archives.
I have added announcements on many forums and I have worked with different volunteers.
I inform you that the dates about the family relations between James Topali,Tina Topali,WilliamTopali,Eleanora Topali ,David Topali,Antina Topali,Tina Topali,E.E.Topali,Anastasia Topali(O’keefe),Nicholas Topali,Fidelina Topalis,Nicolas Topalis,John Topalis,James Topalis,Traci Topalis,Laura Topalis,John Topali,Nina(Merrell) Topali,Philip Topali,Kathleen Topali,Helen Topali,Harry Poulakos I already had.
After the searches made on the net I have seen that the only family posted in the Census Records from 1910-1930,SSDI and other official doccuments,of which dates(emmigration date,establishment in BOSTON,MA,origins,etc)would be similar to those from my relatives that emmigrated in USA,is the James Topali(Topalis) and Tina(PLOTINA)Topali family,that had as sons:William Topali,Anastasia Topali(O’keefe),Nicholas Topali,John Topali and Helen Topali(Poulakos).From these I believe that alive are only Nicholas(81 years,in MA) and John(80,in GA). James Topali,born in 1878-1888,emmigrated from Greece-Turkey in 1916-1918,and lived temporary in Kings, NY and after that in Boston, MA,barber,decesed in 2.06.1943 in Boston, MA, or in oct. 1970, in Queens, NY.
The Massachusetts Vital Records office :
Boston 1943 volume 16 page 277
James Topali. Residence: 92 Beechcroft. Place of death: Boston City
Hospital. Male, white, widowed. Wife: Tina Denarkles. Age 60?
years. Occupation: barber. Born: Greece. Father: Efstratios
Topali, born Greece. Mother: unknown, born Greece. Informant: Anne
O'Keefe, daughter. Date of death: June 2, 1943. Cause of death:
coronary thrombosis an imarct with acute pericarditis, with healed
fractures of right leg and forearm. Injured by being struck by an
automobile, December 1942. Buried Cambridge Cemetery, Cambridge,
Mass.
To find out if between me and this family is a relation it is necessary to know what where the names of James’s parents.If the name is not Naum and Eftalia Topali it means that it is not any relation and it would be only a name coincidence.
I have sent e-mails and letters to all the TOPALI and TOPALIS(I found out that a lot of TOPALI changed names in TOPALIS)that are on the internet,without receiving any answers.
The name Topali(Topalis) is a relatively rare name on the net,and it is possible that lots of those with this names to be related,to know each other,or to be,still,in relation with the birth country,that was Greece.It appears that all named Topali became from a Topali family that lived initially in the region Athens-Thessalonikis from where they have emmigrated in the world.
I believe that usefull info’s about the family Naum Topali and their descendants could be obtained from the members of the Topali family that still live in Greece,that I don’t know and I can not contact them.Maybe you could help me in this way.

Please help me,if you can,to obtain more info for the following persons from MA:
1.JAMES TOPALI,born in 1978-1988(Turkey or Greece),decesed in June 2 1943,and the last adress:92BEECHCROFT STREET,BRIGHTON,BOSTON,
MA, or in oct. 1970, in Queens, NY.
It is essential to find out what his parents names were from the death certificates.

2.NICHOLAS TOPALI(TOPALIS),born 1924-1925(in MA,USA),the presumptive son of James Topali with the following adresses:
-128 JOHN F KENNEDY CIRC,BOSTON(NEWTON),SUFFOLK,MA
-241 WATERTOWN STREET,NEWTON,MA
-35 FRONTIER DRIVE,WALPOLE,MA

3.NICHOLAS FIDEL TOPALIS,born in 1960,nephew of James Topali:
-18 CLAPBOARDTREE STREET,NORWOOD,MA

4.JOHN P.TOPALIS:born in 1961,nephew of James Topali:
-1 NELSON STREET,UPTON,MA

5.LAURA TOPALIS:born in 1967,presumptive nephew of James Topali:
-11 SAINT JOHN AVE.,NORWOOD,MA

6.DAVID TOPALIS,born in 1943,presumptive nephew of James Topali
-8 BRUSH HILL ROAD ,PLYMOUTH,MA

7.JANET TOPALIS,born in 1964,presumptive nephew of James Topali
-41 CENTERVILLE WAY,PLYMOUTH,MA

If you'll have some othe new informations, please, don't forget to tell me any-time. I thank you because you are trying to help me.

GNIROLF










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Re: Re: TOPALI

Posted: 8 Jun 2006 8:11PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: TOPALI, TOPALIS
I will email you so as not to fill up the board.
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