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TOPALI

Posted: 13 Jun 2006 9:19AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 14 Dec 2008 7:46PM GMT
Surnames: TOPALI
I am making the following statements:

My relatives were Macedonian-roumanians and their languages were Aromanian,Albanian,Turkish and Greek,because Albania was temporary occupied by Turkey and Greece(in different times).The great grandfather Naum Topali might have had his family greek,that emigrated in Korce-Albania because the persecutions made by the turkish occupiers,and great grandmother,Eftalia Topali,was macedo-romanian(aromanian)from the region Moskopole-Korce.Their children emigrated after years in USA and Romania.
The relatives I am looking for are my grandmothers(mother of mother) nephews.The informations I have are from my mother and grandmother(both are dead),and they couldn’t keep in touch with the relatives that have gone in other countries.
I inform you that I try to find my relatives that came to America and that arrived initially in BOSTON,MA and then spread in other states from the U.S.For this reason I have posted announcements on some boards,and I dared to ask for help at some persons that know how to search some public information.
I think we first must get informations for my aunt TOPALI that came in the U.S. and after that about the descendents,that if they live,they probably have other names.For this it is necessary for a site,at which the search of a person should be made having in consideration the name of the parents,date and birth place(KORCE or KORYTSA or KORCA) and the place were they are from ALBANIA ,TURKEY or GREECE, because ALBANIA until 1912 was occupied temporary by TURKEY and GREECE.
There can be helpfull the archives of the Orthodoxe Churches from Boston and documents of the macedo-romanian(aromanian) communities from Boston .

I have partially contacted the federal census records from 1910-1930,the EllisIslandFoundation@EllisIsland.org (Family History Center),Ancestry.com,rootsweb.com,and lots of other sites with search engines for persons and genealogic info’s.
I couldn’t acces the secret info’s from Ancestry.com,I couldn’t receive info’s from genealogical libraries,and from the Churches archives.
I have added announcements on many forums and I have worked with different volunteers.
I inform you that the dates about the family relations between James Topali,Tina Topali,WilliamTopali,Eleanora Topali ,David Topali,Antina Topali,Tina Topali,E.E.Topali,Anastasia Topali,Nicholas Topali,Fidelina Topalis,Nicolas Topalis,John Topalis,James Topalis,Traci Topalis,Laura Topalis,John Topali,Nina(Merrell) Topali,Philip Topali,Kathleen Topali,Helen Topali,Harry Poulakos I already had.
After the searches made on the net I have seen that the only family posted in the Census Records from 1910-1930,SSDI and other official doccuments,of which dates(emmigration date,establishment in BOSTON,MA,origins,etc)would be similar to those from my relatives that emmigrated in USA,is the James Topali(Topalis) and Tina(PLOTINA)Topali family,that had as sons:William Topali,Anastasia Topali,Nicholas Topali,John Topali and Helen Topali(Poulakos).From these I believe that alive are only Nicholas(81 years,in MA) and John(80,in GA). James Topali,born in 1878-1888,emmigrated from Greece-Turkey in 1916-1918,and lived temporary in Kings, NY and after that in Boston, MA,barber,decesed in 2.06.1943 in Boston, MA, or in oct. 1970, in Queens, NY.
The Massachusetts Vital Records office :
Boston 1943 volume 16 page 277
James Topali. Residence: 92 Beechcroft. Place of death: Boston City
Hospital. Male, white, widowed. Wife: Tina Denarkles. Age 60?
years. Occupation: barber. Born: Greece. Father: Efstratios
Topali, born Greece. Mother: unknown, born Greece. Informant: Anne
O'Keefe, daughter. Date of death: June 2, 1943. Cause of death:
coronary thrombosis an imarct with acute pericarditis, with healed
fractures of right leg and forearm. Injured by being struck by an
automobile, December 1942. Buried Cambridge Cemetery, Cambridge,
Mass.
To find out if between me and this family is a relation it is necessary to know what where the names of James’s parents.If the name is not Naum and Eftalia Topali it means that it is not any relation and it would be only a name coincidence.
I have sent e-mails and letters to all the TOPALI and TOPALIS(I found out that a lot of TOPALI changed names in TOPALIS)that are on the internet,without receiving any answers.
The name Topali(Topalis) is a relatively rare name on the net,and it is possible that lots of those with this names to be related,to know each other,or to be,still,in relation with the birth country,that was Greece.It appears that all named Topali became from a Topali family that lived initially in the region Athens-Thessalonikis from where they have emmigrated in the world.
I believe that usefull info’s about the family Naum Topali and their descendants could be obtained from the members of the Topali family that still live in Greece,that I don’t know and I can not contact them.Maybe you could help me in this way.

If you'll have some othe new informations, please, don't forget to tell me any-time.

In the measure that my solicitation was upsetting please accept my apologises.

GNIROLF

Re: TOPALI

Margaret (View posts)
Posted: 14 Jun 2006 5:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Some thoughts for you:

In the 1920 census in Brooklyn (part of New York City), Kings County, New York State the following were living together:

Evangelides, Harry, age 28, unmarried, immigrated 1904, naturalized, occupation jeweler
Evangelides, Mary, sister, age 32, unmarried, immigrated 1909, naturalized 1914, no occupation
Topali, James, brother-in-law, age 32, single, immigrated (migth be 1914), alien, barber
All 3 are listed as born in Turkey, language Greek

Now also in 1920 in Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts is a listing which is lined (crossed) through.

Topali, James, lodger, age 37, married, immigrated 1916 (not sure if 6), citizenship pending, born Greece, language Greek, barber

It could be that James Topali in Boston was crossed through because he was already recorded in NYC. This might have been discovered when he applied for naturalization.

Note: James could be listed as Dimitrios; Harry might have been Aristole.

There is a Harry Evangelides who married May 3, 1930 in Brooklyn, Kings County, New York . Certificate no. is 5837.

I do not find anything further about these people. Good luck to you on your search.

Re: TOPALI

gnirolf (View posts)
Posted: 15 Jun 2006 5:21AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: TOPALI
Re: GENEALOGY SEARCH

Thank you so much for help! If you'll have
some othe new informations, please, don't
forget to tell me any-time.

GNIROLF


Re: TOPALI

Posted: 25 Apr 2007 9:10AM GMT
Classification: Query
Re: GENEALOGY SEARCH

I would like to find out any information about the descendents of families NAUM TOPALI and his wife EFTALIA, that lived in Korce , ALBANIA , and moved in the 1900-1930’s in U.S.A( Boston ) and ROMANIA ( Bucharest ).
My grand-fathers and their possible 5 descendents are:

1.NAUM TOPALI
-born:aprox.1850:KORCE,ALBANIA
-death:before 1909:KORCE,ALBANIA

2.EFTALIA TOPALI
-born:aprox.1860:KORCE,ALBANIA
-death:after 1909(maybe 1930-1940):KORCE,ALBANIA

DESCENDENTS:

1.ATHENA(ATINA)TOPALI:born in 1888,established in ROMANIA(BUCHAREST),married with IANE CRISTACHE,and died in 1960.

2.EVRIDICHI TOPALI,born in maybe 1890-died in maybe 1970, established in ROMANIA,married with NICOLITZARU.

3. ?...TOPALI,born in maybe 1895-died in maybe 1975,married with BOROVA,and remained in KORCE,ALBANIA,having as son BOROVA PANDELE.

4. ?.. TOPALI,born maybe in 1883-1888,married, established in USA- BOSTON MA or in KINGS NY,and died maybe in 1965-1985.

5. ?..TOPALI,born maybe in 1940-1945,established in USA, BOSTON MA or PHOENIX AZ.

My relatives were Macedonian-roumanians and their languages were Aromanian,Albanian,Turkish and Greek,because Albania was temporary occupied by Turkey and Greece(in different times).The great grandfather Naum Topali might have had his family greek,that emigrated in Korce-Albania because the persecutions made by the turkish occupiers,and great grandmother,Eftalia Topali,was macedo-romanian(aromanian)from the region Moskopole-Korce.Their children emigrated after years in USA and Romania.
The relatives I am looking for are my grandmothers(mother of mother) nephews.The informations I have are from my mother and grandmother(both are dead),and they couldn’t keep in touch with the relatives that have gone in other countries.
I inform you that I try to find my relatives that came to America and that arrived initially in BOSTON,MA and then spread in other states from the U.S.For this reason I have posted announcements on some boards,and I dared to ask for help at some persons that know how to search some public information.
I think we first must get informations for my aunt TOPALI that came in the U.S. and after that about the descendents,that if they live,they probably have other names.For this it is necessary for a site,at which the search of a person should be made having in consideration the name of the parents,date and birth place(KORCE or KORYTSA or KORCA) and the place were they are from ALBANIA ,TURKEY or GREECE, because ALBANIA until 1912 was occupied temporary by TURKEY and GREECE.
There can be helpfull the archives of the Orthodoxe Churches from Boston and documents of the macedo-romanian(aromanian) communities from Boston .

I have partially contacted the federal census records from 1910-1930,the EllisIslandFoundation@EllisIsland.org (Family History Center),Ancestry.com,rootsweb.com,and lots of other sites with search engines for persons and genealogic info’s.
I couldn’t acces the secret info’s from Ancestry.com,I couldn’t receive info’s from genealogical libraries,and from the Churches archives.
I have added announcements on many forums and I have worked with different volunteers.
I inform you that the dates about the family relations between James Topali,Tina Topali,WilliamTopali,Eleanora Topali ,David Topali,Antina Topali,Tina Topali,E.E.Topali,Anastasia Topali,Nicholas Topali,Fidelina Topalis,Nicolas Topalis,John Topalis,James Topalis,Traci Topalis,Laura Topalis,John Topali,Nina(Merrell) Topali,Philip Topali,Kathleen Topali,Helen Topali,Harry Poulakos I already had.
Nicholas Topalis, who married Fidelina (Deceased). Their children included Nicolas Topalis, John Topalis,James Topalis and Loretta Topalis who is now Loretta Castriotta;
2 of the boys married and divorced and then remarried.Laura Topalis was wife of John Topalis.Nicolas was living in Norwood . John living in Walpole and he is a co-owner of Bostonian Masonry Corporation. James is somewhere in the southern US.

After the searches made on the net I have seen that the only family posted in the Census Records from 1910-1930,SSDI and other official doccuments,of which dates(emmigration date,establishment in BOSTON,MA,origins,etc)would be similar to those from my relatives that emmigrated in USA,is the James Topali(Topalis) and Tina(PLOTINA)Topali family,that had as sons:William Topali,Anastasia Topali,Nicholas Topali,John Topali and Helen Topali(Poulakos) .From these I believe that alive are only Nicholas(81 years,in MA) and John(80,in GA). James Topali,born in 1878-1888,emmigrated from Greece-Turkey in 1916-1918,and lived temporary in Kings, NY and after that in Boston, MA,barber,decesed in 2.06.1943 in Boston, MA, or in oct. 1970, in Queens, NY.
The Massachusetts Vital Records office :
Boston 1943 volume 16 page 277
James Topali. Residence: 92 Beechcroft. Place of death: Boston City
Hospital. Male, white, widowed. Wife: Tina Denarkles. Age 60?
years. Occupation: barber. Born: Greece. Father: Efstratios
Topali, born Greece. Mother: unknown, born Greece. Informant: Anne
O'Keefe, daughter. Date of death: June 2, 1943. Cause of death:
coronary thrombosis an imarct with acute pericarditis, with healed
fractures of right leg and forearm. Injured by being struck by an
automobile, December 1942. Buried Cambridge Cemetery, Cambridge,
Mass.
To find out if between me and this family is a relation it is necessary to know what where the names of James’s parents.If the name is not Naum and Eftalia Topali it means that it is not any relation and it would be only a name coincidence.
I have sent e-mails and letters to all the TOPALI and TOPALIS(I found out that a lot of TOPALI changed names in TOPALIS)that are on the internet,without receiving any answers.
The name Topali(Topalis) is a relatively rare name on the net,and it is possible that lots of those with this names to be related,to know each other,or to be,still,in relation with the birth country,that was Greece.It appears that all named Topali became from a Topali family that lived initially in the region Athens-Thessalonikis from where they have emmigrated in the world.
I believe that usefull info’s about the family Naum Topali and their descendants could be obtained from the members of the Topali family that still live in Greece,that I don’t know and I can not contact them.Maybe you could help me in this way.

I am interested in the history of the TOPALI family and especially the situation of the descendents from USA that are still alive,and i would like to know the names,ages,childrens,adresses,etc.

If you'll have some othe informations, please, don't forget to tell me any-time.

Thank you so much for help!

GNIROLF

e-mail : gnirolf@yahoo.com

25.04.2007

Re: TOPALI

Posted: 17 Apr 2015 5:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi! The James Topali who lived with Harry and Mary Evangelides is my great, great uncle. He also had two sisters, Katina and Kaliopi (sp) Topalis. Kaliopi married George Evangelides, which is why it states that James Topali was staying with in-laws on the 1920's census. Her husbands name is George Evangelides and they also lived in Brooklyn (Kings County). James Topalis died in Astoria, Queens, NY on October 1970. A month before I was born. His middle name was Panajioti/Panagiota (sp). In his WWII Registration form he has James PETER Topalis. He never married, but did live with his "mistress" for many years before he became sick. She then abandoned him to his sisters and hightailed it back to CT where her family is from. James was a barber who had a shop in Manhattan. I was informed by family that he also ran numbers for the supposed mafia in the back of the shop and was skimming from the profits, which when discovered, forced him to leave NY for some time. I was told he went to PA. That is not confirmed, but they also said this is where he met the woman he would live with but never marry. She was a hairdresser. His sisters documentation states they are both born in Constantinople, Turkey. Race: Greek. One oddity I found is on the ship manifest I found for his one sister, Katina (My Great grandmother) and her two daughters (my Yiayia and Great Aunt). Nationality states: ENGLISH. I am currently working on confirming this last bit of information. I hope this helps in some way. :)

Re: TOPALI

Posted: 22 Jun 2015 11:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,

I would like any kind of information about the Topali (Topalis), Iane, Nicolitsaru (Nicolitsari) and Borova families, who lived in Korce (Korca) - Albania and emigrated in 1900-1930's in U.S.A (Boston-Ma), Turkey-Istanbul (Constantinople) and Romania (Bucharest).

My ancestors have been :

1. NAUM TOPALI
- born:aprox.1850: KORCE,ALBANIA
- died: before 1909: KORCE,ALBANIA
2. EFTALIA TOPALI
- born:aprox.1860: KORCE,ALBANIA
- died : after 1909 (maybe 1930-1940): KORCE, ALBANIA

DESCENDENTS:

1. ATHENA (ATINA)TOPALI: born in 1888, lived in ROMANIA (BUCHAREST), married with IANE CRISTACHE, and died in 1960. This was my grandmother.
2. EVRIDICHI TOPALI, born around 1890, died around 1970, lived in ROMANIA, Turkey and USA, married with NICOLITSARU.
3. ?...TOPALI, born around 1895, died around 1975, married with BOROVA, and remained in KORCE,ALBANIA, having as son BOROVA PANDELE.
4. ?.. TOPALI, born around 1883-1888, married, lived in USA- BOSTON MA or in KINGS NY, and died around 1965-1985.

My relatives were Macedonian-roumanians. I think that the great grandfather Naum Topali might have had his family greek, that emigrated to Korce-Albania, because the persecutions made by the turkish occupiers. The great grandmother, Eftalia Topali, was macedo-romanian (aromanian), from the region Moskopole-Korce (Korytsa or Korca).Their children emigrated after years in USA, Romania and Turkey. I couldn’t keep in touch with the relatives that moved in other countries.

Starting in 2005, I tried to find my relatives. I have sent e-mails and letters to all the TOPALI and TOPALIS ( I found out that a lot of TOPALI changed names in TOPALIS) , without receiving any answers.

Can You help me ?

Thanks,
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