The Strange Story of the Tlumaks
OK, I can't seem to find info anywhere else, so I figured I'd see whether anyone here can help.
My mother's father's family is the Tlumaks. My grandfather (Thomas Tlumack, 1920-1983) decided to add the "c," but the rest of the family remained Tlumak.
Anyway, I'm trying to find info on three people specifically:
1. The parents of the Tlumak clan were Abraham Tlumak and Rose. I know virtually nothing about Rose, except that she was born in NYC likely in the mid 1880s to immigrant parents of Hungarian descent. I don't even know her surname; according to Fred Tlumak's page on Find-a-Grave, it is "Surgingy," however, I cannot find anything whatsoever even close to that name. She died in Brooklyn in 1952. If anyone knows anything about her, or could direct me to some way of finding anything, it would be greatly appreciated.
2. Abe and Rose kept quite busy as far as copulating - there were apparently 12 (that we know of) Tlumak children. One of them that my mother didn't recognize at all who came up on every census was Henry. I found an OLD message on another site where his brother Seymour (dead, as they all are) stated that Henry had changed his name to Henry Hamilton Fields and moved to New Orleans, and the family hadn't heard from him since. I have had no luck finding anything for Henry Tlumak, Harry Tlumak (as he was listed on one census), Henry Fields, Henry H. Fields, or Henry Hamilton Fields. He was born in 1905 or 1906 in Brooklyn NY.
3. The mystery of "Uncle Joe." My mother insists that the oldest brother was Joe/Joseph Tlumak, but he doesn't come up on any of the censuses, or anywhere else, for that matter. All I know about him is that he was married to Rita (deceased in Florida) and one of his children is Jeffrey Tlumak, professor of philosophy in Tennessee. If anyone can locate any record of him, or suggest where to look...
Any and all suggestions and help appreciated. Thanks.
Jess
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Re: The Strange Story of the Tlumaks
You didnt mention if you had this or not
U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 Name: Thomas Tlumack Birth Year: 1920 Race: White, citizen (White) Nativity State or Country: New York State of Residence: New York County or City: Kings Enlistment Date: 5 Oct 1942 Enlistment State: New York Enlistment City: Fort Jay Governors Island Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA Grade: Private Grade Code: Private Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men) Source: Civil Life Education: 3 years of high school Civil Occupation: Semiskilled occupations in fabrication of textile products, n.e.c. Marital Status: Single, without dependents Height: 68 Weight: 163
other that may be related Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005 Name: Thomas Tlumack Gender: Male Residence State: New Hampshire Spouse: Gloria Oliveti Spouse residence state: New Mexico Marriage Date: 30 Jun 1973 Marriage city: Las Vegas Officiant type: Religious celebrant Recorded date: 5 Jul 1973 Recorded county: Clark
World War II Prisoners of War, 1941-1946 Name: Hyman Tlumak Race: White Residence State: New York Report Date: 15 Jun 1944 Latest Report Date: 17 Jul 1945 Grade: Private First Class Grade Notes: Second Lieutenant or Nurse or Dietitian or Physical therapy aide or Private First Class or Ensign or Second Class, Seaman Service Branch: Army Arm or Service: Infantry Arm or Service Code: Infantry Organization Type: Branch Immaterial/Infantry Division Band/Dental Corps/Medical Department Parent Unit Type: Group/Regiment/Commands/System Area Served: European Theatre: Germany Detaining Country: Germany Camp: 006 Status: Returned to Military Control, Liberated or Repatriated Report Source: Individual has been reported through sources considered official. as found 1920 Name: Abraham Themak [Abraham Tlumak] Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 22, Kings, New York Age: 36 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Birthplace: Austria Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Rose Father's Birth Place: Austria Mother's Birth Place: Austria Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Rent Year of Immigration: 1900 Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 58 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Abraham Themak 36 Rose Themak 33 Henry Themak 13 Morris Themak 12 George Themak 9 Jennie Themak 7 Bernard Themak 5 6/12 Jenie Themak 3 7/12 Himan Themak 9/12 Name: Abraham Tlumak Age in 1910: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Birthplace: Austria Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Austria Mother's Birth Place: Austria Spouse's Name: Rose Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Year of Immigration: 1899 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Abraham Tlumak 26 Rose Tlumak 24 Henry Tlumak 4 Morris Tlumak 2 Name: Andrew Tlumack Age in 1910: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Birthplace: Austria Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Austria Mother's Birth Place: Austria Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Home in 1910: Hempfield, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Year of Immigration: 1888 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Andrew Tlumack 52 Elizabeth Tlumack 46 Elizabeth Tlumack 18 Andrew Tlumack 16 Dora Tlumack 14 Catherine Tlumack 11 John Tlumack 9 Margaret Tlumack 6 Name: Steve Tlumack [Steve Tlumach] Age in 1910: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Birthplace: Austria Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Austria Mother's Birth Place: Austria Spouse's Name: Mary Home in 1910: Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Year of Immigration: 1897 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Steve Tlumack 46 Mary Tlumack 39 Mary Tlumack 15 Steve Tlumack 13 Make Tlumack 10 U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995 about Abraham Tlumak Name: Abraham Tlumak Age: 47 Birth Date: abt 1884 Issue Date: 21 Jul 1931 State: New York Locality, Court: Eastern District of New York, District Court Title: Index to Naturalization Petitions of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1957 Description: Terlecki, Richard to Tomas, Susana Series: M1164 Name: Blanche Tlumack Age: 28 Birth Date: 18 Oct 1924 Issue Date: 15 Jul 1952 State: New York Locality, Court: Eastern District of New York, District Court Title: Index to Naturalization Petitions of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1957 Description: Terlecki, Richard to Tomas, Susana Series: M1164
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Abraham Tlumak Name: Abraham Tlumak City: Brooklyn County: Kings State: New York Birth Date: 13 Aug 1883 Race: White Roll: 1754613 DraftBoard: 80
Name: Angelina Tlumak Service Info.: TEC 5 US ARMY Birth Date: 5 Apr 1928 Death Date: 15 Feb 1987 Relation: Wife of Tlumak, Jess Interment Date: 20 Feb 1987 Cemetery: Calverton National Cemetery Cemetery Address: 210 Princeton Boulevard Rt 25 Calverton, NY 11933 Buried At: Section 5a Site 1050
Name: Jess Tlumak Service Info.: TEC 5 US ARMY WORLD WAR II Birth Date: 25 May 1916 Death Date: 27 Apr 2002 Service Start Date: 15 Nov 1945 Interment Date: 30 Apr 2002 Cemetery: Calverton National Cemetery Cemetery Address: 210 Princeton Boulevard Rt 25 Calverton, NY 11933 Buried At: Section 5a Site 1051
I am not related
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Re: The Strange Story of the Tlumaks
Oooh, some of these I've seen, some I haven't.
Gloria whatsherface was my grandfather's third (yes, third) wife... so my mother (and grandma) didn't really take too kindly to her. I didn't know they married in Vegas though.
Hyman was one of the brothers. So was Jess (though I didn't know his wife was also enlisted!)
Blanche was someone's wife... maybe Fred's. Fred was married twice. I know the second time was to Anastasia (who the rest of the family apparently hated because she was Greek).
The Pennsylvania Tlumacks are possibly distant relations, but I don't know of a recent (as in, Abraham's brother or something, or later than that) connection. They also seem distinctly more Christian (lots of Catherines, Pauls, Marys, etc). Tlumaks in Michigan (either Hyman or Irving's kids/grandkids/etc), Tennessee (the missing Joe's offspring) and Florida are definite connections, though.
Be glad you're not related - if you were, you'd have spent most of your life attempting to explain to seemingly intelligent people how to pronounce two simple letters!
Thank you for the Army records, as I didn't have those yet. And Tommy's third marriage... :P
Jess
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Re: The Strange Story of the Tlumaks
Jess's wife wasnt enlisted...that's just the way the file is listed ..wives can be buried next to the husband.
Good Luck
Connie
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