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Thurgood/Thorogood in Carlton, Cambridgeshire and Little Thurlow, Suffolk and Chesterfield, Derbyshire

laaottawa — 2014-09-23 13:42:22Z

I have traced back my Thurgood family from Chesterfield, Derbyshire to Carlton, Cambridgeshire and Little Thurlow. My earliest known event is my 4xgrandfather Thomas baptism in Little Thurlow as the illegitimate son of Mary Thorogood in 1797. Her brother was Thomas Thorogood who seems to have had a prolific line stretching to Australia. As far as I know, noone has found anything prior to their father Thomas's generation.

Years ago, I started a DNA project on Familytree DNA with my father's DNA hoping to find out more info about his "blood" grandfather, but nothing has come of that probably due to the fact that noone else has submitted theirs! If anyone is interested, please contact me. It's cheaper than ever and easy to do. If you have reservations - let's talk!

If there is anyone out there interested in the Thurgood/Thorogood's in Cambridgeshire, Suffolk and/or Derbyshire please contact me.

Happy hunting!

Lesley in Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Re: Laurence Thurgood

jcwilks — 2014-04-29 16:58:31Z

Hi, Heidianne,
Thanks for responding to my message, which I'd posted many years ago. Since then I've built a tree which contains literally thousands of THURGOODs. The one you mention, William Lawrence, died on 16 Aug 1896. He drowned in the River Lea at Stamford Hill, Hackney at the age of 46. At the time he was a Carman, and lived at 66, Moneyer Street in Hoxton, London.

All the best,

Johnny Wilks

Re: Laurence Thurgood

AnneKelly211 — 2014-04-29 16:39:26Z

I have a Laurence Thurgood b 1839 in Gravesnd,Kent who mariied Kate Munson b1851 Dedham Essex. They settled and had 8 or 9 chidlren in Orford,Suffolk. I'm pretty sure that my grandfather, George Henry b1885 was one of them who 'joined up' to fight in South Africa in 1902. On his return he settled in London.
We may have a link.
Cheers,
Annie.

Re: Laurence Thurgood

heidianne_c — 2014-04-29 07:07:25Z

Hi, I have William Lawrence Thurgood born abt 1851 married to Eliza Ann Burman. I have him living with his Father also William Lawrence Thurgood in the 1871 census but after that Im having trouble finding either him or his wife Eliza in 1881 onwards. There is a William Thorogood married to Eliza but would this be the same Man? I know names changed but I am unsure if this is him or not. Maybe his death was before 1891?
Regards,
Heidi

Re: George Thurgood

judythur — 2014-02-24 02:17:27Z

Hello Gerry I have just seen this old post. If you're still there, and still looking for info, I have some info if this refers to George Thurgood who drowned in 1886 in St Peters and Sarah who died in 1889

Re: Thurgood Family Tree

tomsanderson1 — 2013-06-06 15:18:47Z

Hi. I am very interested in the Thurgood family tree as I have discovered that I have a Hannah, James and Thomas Thurgood as direct ancestors. Hannah married a guy called Abraham Cook in Great Bradley and My branch stems from there. If you have any information you'd be happy to share I would love to hear from you

Tom Sanderson

Re: family

tawfmc — 2013-05-27 16:09:14Z

I know a Maureen DellaVanderveer Thergood...Bridgeport, CT

Can Anyone help me

Graciilacii — 2012-12-16 17:42:38Z

Ive been searching for George And Maria-Ann(mary-ann,Ann-Maria,marie) Thurgoods Birth and marriage certificate . ive been looking for a while now and cant find anything about them and cant find there parents so cant grow on my tree.

i know they lived in essex and as far as im aware they only have one child Caroline Eliza Clare formerly Thurgood shes my GG Granparent ive got carolines Birth and marriage certificate and a record of her baptism at a church in essex , also found James and Martha Thurgood baptised all there 7 children at the same church but dont know what relation they are to George and Maria-Ann. Maria-Ann's maiden name is Nightingale.

if anyone has any information about them i would be very greatfull

Thanks :)

Re: Thurgood Family Tree

mountainview600 — 2012-09-30 01:25:25Z

would love to hear from you as my grandmothers family come from essex as well.

Re: Thurgood Craske

michy70 — 2012-09-12 22:03:30Z

I am researching Ethel Craske who married John Thurgood.

Re: Thurgood Family Tree

bernie_roy1 — 2011-12-08 14:46:38Z

Hi Derek,

I am the son of your father Neville's cousin Alan Roy. I met your father a few times when he visited Watford England usually to get model accessories for his model railway, I assume you inherited that. I used to exchange xmas cards with him after my father died until your father died and he sent me a family tree of which I have a copy. I am on facebook if you want to contact me.
Bernie (Bernard) Roy my home e mail is bernie.roy1@btinternet.com

Re: Thurgood Family Tree

LAURELGROVE2350 — 2011-11-24 21:22:35Z

Hi. I hope you are the Derek i knew from Carlisle,let me know. Regards Alan

Re: Can Anyone help me

stevepip1 — 2011-11-13 07:55:47Z

Can you give us an idea of dates, and for Caroline particularly, where was the church she was baptised at? Have you found them on the Census?

You will find that Thurgoods often appeared as Thorogood and other similar spellings so it can be tricky to track them down - so give us as much factual information as possible please!

Pippa

Re: Emma Thurgood and Jacob Edwards

katerimmer — 2011-09-20 13:32:31Z

Well, they're not at 1 Tachbrook Mews on the 1871 census; there's a family called Berwick there who look unlikely to be connected.

Also not with Henry Lower as he is still with his first wife Mary A.

Re: Emma Thurgood and Jacob Edwards

katerimmer — 2011-09-20 13:19:45Z

So if E Edwards registered Jacob's death, presumably that is Emma, so you have the address where she was living when Jacob died.

If Caroline's birth date is correct on her birth cert, then I would think the reason Emma lied about Jacob being the father was to spare her daughter from the stigma of illegitimacy.

But also it is possible that Caroline was really born a few months earlier, Jacob was her father, but Emma didn't get round to registering the birth within the 6 week limit and so she gave a false date of birth to bring it within the 6 weeks.

As for why two children in the 1850's and then no more till 1870, it could be that she had some others who died young or were stillborn, or it could be that Jacob and Emma didn't want any more children and managed to avoid having any (or wanted more but had fertility problems) until Caroline came along, or of course the date of birth is correct and Emma had met a new man soon after Jacob's death. I suppose it's even possible that Emma jr could have been Caroline's mother, and Emma sr lied about who both parents were on the birth registration to legitimise her!

I'll have another try at finding them on the 1871 census now.

Re: Emma Thurgood and Jacob Edwards

Ablackburn240908 — 2011-09-20 11:01:59Z

I have Jacob's death certificate. He died of cancer exhaustion at St George's hospital on 4th June 1869. His occupation is listed a bricklayer. E Edwards was present at the death and lived at 22 Rochester Buildings, Westminster. The death was registered on 10th June 1869 in the registration district of St George Hanover Square, Middlesex.

Caroline Elizabeth Emma Edwards was born 15th June 1870 and I have her birth certificate. Her father is listed as Jacob Edwards (deceased) and his occupation was bricklayer. The mother is Emma Edwards, formerly Thurgood. The birth was registered on 20th July 1870 by E Edwards, mother, of 1 Tachbrook Mews, Pimlico. It was registered in the registration district of St George Hanover Square, Middlesex.

All the other information that you have mentioned is the same as I have. What I can't understand is why she would lie about who the father is. She married Henry Lower in 1874 and I think all the children then take his name.

Why did she have two children in the 1850's and then no more until 1870?

Thanks for your help.

Re: Thurgoods of Essex

TedThurgood33 — 2008-12-04 08:01:47Z

Hi Dave,

Yes I am still about. I do not subscribe to Ancestry.com so if you wouild like to communicate with me use my email address: tthurgood@aol.com

I hold a considerable amount of informationn on the Thurgoods of the borders of Essex and Hertfordshire. There are many family lines. Let me know all the details you have of your mother and her ancesters and I will do all I can for you.

Good to hear from you.

Ted Thurgood

Re: Thurgoods in Carlton Cambridgeshire and Little Thurlow Suffolk

dandj60 — 2009-07-21 10:47:24Z

Hi Rachael,

Just seen your message whilst doing a random flick through. I think you are on my branch of Thurgoods from Great Bradley. James Thurgood was my great grandfather he married Maria Trundley and lived in Battersea at 1 Austin Road. I was born there. Am I right in thinking your father or grandfather is named John living in Battersea?
Please get in touch.

Regards

Diane Ware (nee Thurgood)
e-mail: dandj@thewarehouse.fslife.co.uk

Emma Thurgood and Jacob Edwards

Ablackburn240908 — 2011-09-20 09:49:59Z

I have the death certificate of Jacob Edwards and he died in June 1869. I have the birth certificate of Caroline Edwards who was born in June 1870 and Jacob is listed as her father. I can't find her or Emma on the 1871 census but Emma remarries in 1874 (Henry Lower). How do I find out why Jacob died one year before his daughter was born? Is there anyway of finding out where Emma was living around the time her husband died?

Re: Thurgood Family Tree

butterflyangel58 — 2009-07-12 00:37:14Z

Hi Derek
My GG Grandfather was Samuel Thurgood born 4th September 1839 in Saffron Walden Essex. His parents were James Thurgood born 2nd July 1803 Saffron Walden and Judith Clayton (Claydon). James's parents were Samuel Thurgood and Lucy. I was just wondering if you would have any information on them.
Thankyou
Angela

James Thurgood of Fairstead,, born 1827

sciter — 2009-08-31 14:02:13Z

I am trying to find out more about this ancestor (I think) of mine. He was transported to Australia in 1856 after murdering a gamekeeper, but I have been unable to connect him to my branch of the Thurgood family, who were also born in Fairstead. I have found his parents - Samuel and Mary.

Re: James Thurgood of Fairstead,, born 1827

sciter — 2010-08-26 20:07:21Z

Further to your previous answer, I would be interested in having details of your book. I am no further forward in my search for details of James' ancestors.

Re: James Thurgood of Fairstead,, born 1827

sciter — 2010-03-05 20:29:49Z

Many thanks for the information on the above, I had found out some of it from the Essex Family Historian magazine, but not in such detail. Now I just have to prove somehow that he is a member of my family of Thurgoods!

Bastardy Order

broken_branches — 2010-01-14 05:00:51Z

For anyone that is interested.

Order against Thomas Thurgood of Hempstead, labourer, putative father of female child of Mary Purkis, single woman.
Endorsed with sworn statement of overseer that ten pound owing from Thurgood, 04 Jun 1832.

From SEAX
Ref Code = D/B 2/PAR8/115
Dates of Creation = 30 Oct 1827

Would like info on child if known

Lyn
cpeace2charmony@hotmail.com

Re: ALL Thurgoods

lenilou08 — 2010-03-08 11:30:34Z

my grandad john has sisters with flower names, ivy, petal, rosie etc?

Re: ALL Thurgoods

lenilou08 — 2010-03-08 11:28:38Z

My full name is Leni Kathleen Thurgood, my dad was known as Lennie, his name was Leonard Thurgood. I believe his mother was called Kathleen Thurgood, and his father, like him Leonard thurgood, he is 57 now i think. He has children Karly, Lauren, and Frankie?

Re: ALL Thurgoods

lenilou08 — 2010-05-24 08:56:38Z

my dad left when i was young, my mum refuses to talk about him, all she says is his dad has his name, and his mothers kathleen, he has sisters i think. im going to find out more, message me if you no anything, anything at all.

Re: ALL Thurgoods

bevgarland — 2010-03-09 04:55:11Z

Where is he from? And when was he born?

Re: Finding Thurgood

AnneKelly211 — 2008-08-03 14:24:35Z

Hi, I am trying to prove that my grandfather, George Henry b 1885 was a son of Lawrence Thurgood b 1839 in Gravesnd Kent & Kate Munson Dedham Essex who settled in Orford Suffolk and had 8 or 9 children. My grandfather joined up in 1902 to go to South Africa in the 2nd Boer War, and on his return settled in London, Peckham. His regiment was the Queens Surrey. I hope you may have a link.
Cheers, Annie.

Re: Thurgood in Essex Regiment

AndrewPlaster63 — 2010-07-25 18:07:10Z

Hi I am researching Thurgood for my friend. His ancestor was Robert William Thurgood. I couldn't find him in the 1881 and 1891 censuses. From army records state his birthplace - Gravesend, Kent. His marriage certificate shows his father name - Robert William Thurgood. I couldn't find anything further than that.

from Andrew Plaster

Re: Thurgood in Essex Regiment

AndrewPlaster63 — 2010-08-15 20:19:32Z

I do not have any further information on Robert William Thurgood. I do not know his mother's maiden. I could not find his origin from censuses and freebmd, despite his army record says his birthplace is Gravesend, kent.

from Andrew Plaster

Re: Thurgood in Essex Regiment

AndrewPlaster63 — 2010-08-14 20:52:01Z

Robert William Thurgood married Ethel May Laver on 1st November 1906 at Warley, Essex. The marriage certificate states his age as 32, occupation as a shoemaker, and his father name as Robert William Thurgood, also a shoemaker.

Re: Thurgood Family Tree

thurgoodwrestler4 — 2008-09-24 20:19:05Z

I wanna be on the family tree.

thorogood -buck

ruthloats — 2011-02-13 04:10:27Z

trying to find benjamin thorogood 1887 pancras england may have imagrated to australia around 1925 married to edith buck in 1912

Re: Finding Thurgood

jcwilks — 2008-08-04 18:36:43Z

Hi, Tony,
I, too, have a large THURGOOD tree, in Essex mostly, but also in 6 or 7 other counties. It may be that we could profitably share info. I have a first cousin named Tony THURGOOD, incidentally. Could you be he ?
Johnny Wilks

Re: Laurence Thurgood

jcwilks — 2008-08-04 18:30:37Z

Hi Annie,
I have some knowledge of your great grandfather Lawrence Arthur Brockes THURGOOD and his line back to Phillip THURGOOD in High Ongar about 1689, though I have never managed to connect it with my line. I'm sure there is a link, partly because of the forename Lawrence/Laurence which is common among THURGOODs but uncommon generally. I'd love to know whom your grandfather George married, however, as I've never traced his marriage. It would be interesting to know where his middle name Henry came into the picture, too, as he was not registered at the GRO with any middle name.
Johnny Wilks

Re: ALL Thurgoods

rachelvickery1 — 2009-07-26 19:44:35Z

Hello,
I was born Thurgood and also live in South Devon : ) I have been trying to talk to my family about our family tree but haven't had much info so far, any tips for the best way to start?
Many Thanks
Rachel Vickery

Re: ALL Thurgoods

rachelvickery1 — 2009-08-04 12:14:45Z

Hello Tony,
I can't access your e-mail address for some reason so unable to email you.

Thanks
Rachel

Re: ALL Thurgoods

jacky388 — 2008-10-15 15:46:49Z

I am researching my fathers line of Thurgoods. I am stuck at about 1825 with a marriage of William Thurgood to Sussanah/Susanna/Susan. They appear to have three daughters, Mary, Sarah and Susan. The last two died in the Union infirmary at Bishop Stortford aged 9 and 5. The family lived in Farnham Essex and Mary married Benjamin Warwick in 1844.

Re: Emma Thurgood and Jacob Edwards

katerimmer — 2011-09-20 10:14:52Z

The obvious answer is that Jacob can't have been Caroline's father if he died a whole year before she was born! Are you sure it's the right death cert? If so then unless a false date of birth was given on Caroline's birth certificate, Emma was lying about who the father was.

If you want to find out why Jacob died, the cause of death should be on his death certificate. What is the address on the death certificate? Isn't Emma the informant? And what's the address on Caroline's birth certificate?

This is the info from Jacob and Emma's marriage certificate (in the LMA records on ancestry) which I'm sure you have already but may be useful to people who want to help.

Married 25 Dec 1852 St John, Paddington, Middlesex, both full age, Jacob bachelor, bricklayer, abode Praed Street, father William Edwards, bricklayer, Emma spinster, Praed Street, father John Thurgood, bargeman.

Is this the baptism of one of their children?
19 Nov 1854 at All Saints, Islington - Emma, daughter of Jacob and Emma Edwards of 7 Leader(?) Street, bricklayer.

And this one?
28 Oct 1857 Lambeth St Mary - John Walter, son of Jacob and Emma Edwards of 12 St James St., Hampstead Rd, Bricklayer.

In which case, is this them in 1861?
4 Little Chapel St, Westminster St Margaret
J Edwards Head Mar 37 Bricklayer Hants Jetsworth(?)
Emma Edwards Wife Mar 28 Herts Bishop Stortford
Emma Do Daur 7 Surrey Lambeth
John Do Son 5 Middlesex Knightsbridge
Scothes(?) W Do Visitor 4 Herts Bishop Stortford

So we know who we're looking for in 1871. I'll have a look for them later if nobody has found them in the meantime.

Re: Thurgood in Essex Regiment

ldel007 — 2010-08-17 18:14:58Z

Thanks once again,Len Delaney

Re: Thurgood in Essex Regiment

ldel007 — 2010-08-14 20:04:59Z

Who did your Robert W Thurgood marry and what year did they
marry?

Re: Thurgood in Essex Regiment

ldel007 — 2010-07-26 00:15:55Z

My wife,Ann Thurgood,born in Chatham ,Kent, her father Edward Harry b 1914, was a Colonel in the Royal Engineers. His brother was Robert William ,their father was Robert William,the father died,1915,probably the war. His mother, Ethel Laver remarried but died when the boys were about 10 and 8, they were raised by their aunt Alice Ashwin. Robert joined the Navy and Edward joined the army when he was 14 - rsing to the rank of Lt Colonel. Edward died in 1990 and Robert in 1992.I would like to know their ancesters as i am a United Empire Loyalist,people who stayed with Britain when the thirteen colonies broke from England, we cane to Canada and the King called us United Empire Loyalist and we can put UE after our names.Help Me , Len D

Re: Thurgood in Essex Regiment

ldel007 — 2010-08-15 20:02:52Z

THANKS ANDREW,ROBERT W THURGOOD M ETHEL MAY LAVER,DO YOU HAVE HIS MOTHERS MAIDEN NAME AND ANY OTHER INFO,DATES, ETC
OR OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS.BY THE WAY,BECAUSE I ATTENDED THE
qUEEN'S CORONATION IN 1953,I GOT AN INVITATION TO HER TEA
PARTY IN OTTAWA,WORE MY OLD UNIFORM I WORE IN 53

Thurgood in Essex Regiment

ldel007 — 2009-10-07 20:24:50Z

Anyone know Robert William Thurgood b 1874? died 31 Dec 1915 Served with the 2Bn Essex Regiment in India and South Africa(Boer War

Re: Thurgoods of Essex

davedane — 2008-12-04 02:32:08Z

Hi Ted,

My Mother is a Thorogood from Essex. An old tale passed down the family says that due to a illiteracy the family name inadvertently got changed from Thurgood to Thorogood. Indeed this appears to be true, and it happened in the early 19th c. Our focus is now on the Essex/Herts border teritory surrounding Bishops Stortford. There are more than a handful of Thurgoods in the area in the late 1700s so any information would be gratefully received.

I know this is an eight year old thread but I thought I'd see if you were still out there.

Regards,
Dave Clarke
NZ

Re: James Thurgood of Fairstead,, born 1827

Holyboy9th — 2010-02-09 21:29:35Z

James Thurgood was sentenced to death but this was later commuted to transportation for life. He was transported aboard the 'Nile' that left Plymouth on 23 September 23 1857 with 40 passengers and 268 convicts bound for the Swan River Colony, Western Australia(stopping off at Brazil on the way) The voyage took one hundred days, the 'Nile' arrived in Fremantle on 1 January 1858 . I am featuring the case in my forthcoming book 'Victorian Prisons and Prisoners' published by History Press.

Re: ALL Thurgoods

tonythurgood — 2009-07-29 19:14:33Z

Rachel,

email me, my family originated in Terling, Essex and although I have not done anything for a couple of years, I can go back to 1588, so you never know.

I also have other family in Devon & Cornwall

best regards,

Tony Thurgood

Re: Thurgood Family Tree

AnneKelly211 — 2008-08-03 14:10:22Z

I am 99per cent sure that my Grandfather, George Henry Thurgood 1885 is the one born in Orford Suff.to Lawrence
Thurgood Gravesend 1839 & Kate Munson Dedham, Essex 1851.
I need to establish that he is the one who joined the Queens Surrey Regiment in 1902 for the 2nd Boer war.He settled in Peckham on his return from South Afica.
I hope we have a link.
Thanks, Annie.

Re: Thurgoods in Harlow

LynetteAllen603 — 2008-03-31 05:38:44Z

I've just joined Ancestry, if you are still interested in Charles & Mary in 1841 census, the son Charles bc1833 was my great grandfather