I'm seeking info on the above William, married to a Rebecca, children: George, John, Calvin, Pulaski, Allen, Spencer, Polly Ann (?), Martha (?), and Mason (?). William is my great(x3) grandfather. Any info is greatly appreciated!!!

Hi Kim!

I'm trying to untangle this branch of the tree, too.

The names you have with question marks are all correct.

William's son Allen had a son, Allen Isaiah (called Isaiah or Isah, born 1875). Isaiah's son, Colon (born 1906) is my paternal grandfather. Colon and Thelma had one son, Royce, who is my father.

I can't seem to get any farther back than William. I can tell you that Mason appears to have moved to Georgia, and is noted on the 1880 census in Augusta as being sick with "an enlargement of the heart". I believe William and Rebecca had died by then.

I've looked at so many records I can't tell you which ones, but on one or two of them Pulaski's name is spelled "Tulaski".

This part of the family are all from York, SC and Shelby, NC (mostly Shelby). If you don’t know this already, Cleveland County (Shelby) has only been in existence since 1841. Any earlier than that, and you have to look in either Lincoln or Rutherford County. A whole lot of them are buried at the Pleasant Hill Baptist Church cemetery in Shelby. I've been there before, but I've learned a lot more since then so I'm going back on July 3 to see if I can get any more clues from the grave markers.

Oh, one more thing! I'm real close to being absolutely certain that, regardless of which Thrift branch we're on, we're all descended from Richard Frith of England who was one of the first settlers of Jamestown, Virginia. He came over with Captain John Smith (of Pocohontas fame) on the ship HMS Susan Constant in 1608. Cool, huh?

I am working on this line I think. please contact me hildaemmettmoss@juno.com

Here are some related posts
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.thrift/20/mb.ashx
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.thrift/87.1/mb.ashx
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.thrift/112/mb.ashx
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.thrift/249/mb.ashx
http://genforum.genealogy.com/thrift/messages/250.html
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/THRIFT/1998-09...
http://home.comcast.net/~huntingforbears/f_query.htm

and a family tree is here
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...
If we can add to it, & figure out any errors, I'd appreciate it.

I'm wondering whether there is a mistake here somewhere. Are all these people really from the same family? How are they connected, or if not, where is the error? I'd like to get all the details down as tight as possible.

Who moved from SC to NC, and when?

Thanks
Richard Thrift

OK, Here's where the problem is:

The 1850 SC Census Newberry County lists Allen as son of William Thrift. (I don't have good access to census info so I'm relying on what has already been posted.) Terry has done some VERY good research on this Allen, and from what I can see she is probably correct that Allen's full name is Robert Allen Thrift
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...
who married and moved to Georgia. See Terry's posts
http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/THRIFT/2009-02/1234...
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.thrift/249/mb.ashx

Others have said that Allen son of William Thrift is the Allen (middle initial T or A) Thrift b. ~1843 in SC who served with the 1 Palmetto Sharpshooters then moved to Shelby NC area, married Linsey Emiline Roberts and had kids including Allen Isaiah Thrift. Here are Allen's family and some descendants:
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op...

I am adding the info to my tree
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&... (William Thrift)

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&... (Allen A. Thrift)

I would like to get YOUR detailed data and bring it to bear on this. Until we see better evidence that Allen who moved to NC is son of William of Newberry SC, I think it would be better to say his father is currently unknown. I think Allen might be in the line of John Thrift (see below) if only because of the repetitive name Allen in that line.
John Thrift b. 6 JAN 1760 in near Petersburg, VA , lived in Cane Creek, Pickens District, SC
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&...

Similarly I wonder if William Thrift (who has a son, Spencer) might be from the line of Abraham (& Spencer) Thrift, see below. Just speculation. Might be proven by DNA tests.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&...

I would like to work out the connections of ALL the Thrift lines in SC and NC. My feeling is that they are all closely related, and further I'm guessing they are related to the Thrifts of Dinwiddie Co VA and to Joseph Frith of York Co VA.

Not to sound too much like a broken record, but DNA tests of male Thrifts would be an incredibly powerful way to make these connections. Are there any Thrifts who are willing to join the Thrift DNA Project to help work this out? We do already have results for a descendant of Isham Thrift of Orange Co, NC.

As Bob pointed out earlier on this message board, it is NOT safe to assume that any of these people descend from Richard Frith of Jamestown. I do feel that in the long term we may find more info about Richard Frith and his English relatives, and that based on THAT information we might eventually use DNA testing to see if any of the colonial lines appear related.

Richard Thrift